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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Mar 27, 2020 9:24:15 GMT -5
The question was asked in another thread, but I can't find it.
The HC 1962 yearbook is on-line, but its tediously slow as a pdf file, even the relatively short sub-file with a subset listing of the class that includes him. I looked at the A-C's plus the F's (Fuuci).
Anyways, the answer no good way of telling. Taking the yearbook at face value, Fauci graduated with an "A. B. Premedical" degree. I doubt that's the real degree, I believe I read somewhere he was a Classics major. In that era, B.S. degrees were awarded to those (the majority) who chose to forego Latin and Greek.
There are a relatively significant number of A. B. Premedical degrees, but these are only part of the count. There are B. S. Biology degrees, most/all of whom would have been in the pre-med program. And there were B. S. Chem and B.S. Physics majors, and which could be parleyed into medical school. There was no pre-med society, but there was a Biology Society (and a pre-law society).
The surprise in going through this yearbook listing was finding graduates with a B. S. Business Administration degree, a B. S. Marketing degree. I assume in some subsequent year, these degrees were pruned away. (When HC went co-ed?)
Probably the best way to count the number of graduates from a particular class in that era would be to find a 25th Reunion yearbook, and count the number of graduates with M.D. or D. D. S. after their name.
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Post by hchoops on Mar 27, 2020 9:32:58 GMT -5
PP
Would you please check on his yearbook photo to see if the good doctor played intramural hoops ?
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Mar 27, 2020 10:15:41 GMT -5
PP Would you please check on his yearbook photo to see if the good doctor played intramural hoops ? No intramurals listed, --for anyone. Going through the first group of F's, this is the athletics related listing for Fellin. His degree was B. S. Business Administration. Varsity football, Captain. Most valuable player 1961 season [his senior season]. Track. Fraser Memorial Trophy. Most Valuable Player, HC - Syracuse game 1960. For [Jack the Shot] Foley, listing has Varsity basketball. I googled Fraser Memorial Trophy. The only reference to it was a 1959 game between Syracuse #8 and previously undefeated Holy Cross. The Orange won 42-6. Gerhardt Schwedes (Syracuse) won the trophy. Ernie Davis had a 44 yard TD run. ^^^ This from the book, A Memorable Season in College Football. 1959. I think the Fraser trophy is/was reserved for the HC-Syracuse game. Those were the days. |
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Post by hchoops on Mar 27, 2020 11:43:50 GMT -5
What is Fellin’s first name ?
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Post by sarasota on Mar 27, 2020 12:36:36 GMT -5
I was President of The Biology Society. For all intents and purposes it was a pre-med society. Our guest speakers were all physicians, as opposed to Biology scientists.
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Post by purple1 on Mar 27, 2020 14:09:56 GMT -5
Jack Fellin
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Apr 12, 2020 6:50:56 GMT -5
In the New Yorker article, Fauci reveals why the HC pre-med classes of that era were so accomplished, comparatively. Regis wouldn't write a recommendation if he applied to HYP. I am certain Regis was not alone.
The brightest Catholic high school graduates in the Northeast who wanted pre-med were thus steered to Holy Cross, -- not Fordham, not BC, not St. Joe's. Don't know about Georgetown, and don't know about schools in the Midwest provinces. One would need to check yearbooks of the pre-meds and their home states even to draw an inference.
And this helps explain why pre-meds applying to Holy Cross in that era were on a separate admissions track, with respect to taking mandated SAT II subjects, and needing higher SAT scores than those who were applying to HC and intending to major in anything other than pre-med.
Don't know when this 'steering' began, and suspect it ended sometime by/before the 70's, --perhaps with the movement toward co-education?
Fr. K. in his history of Holy Cross webimar, now on YouTube, said that the Federal government ended HC's discrimination against non-Catholics when Navy OCS arrived on campus. Prior to that, only Catholics were admitted. Back in that era, the Jesuit PTB intended that HC be a great source of future Jesuits, and provide candidates for the Society with an undergraduate education rather than sending them off to a novitiate.
Jerry Brown, the former governor of CA and two years older than Fauci, went to Santa Clara for a year, then transferred to a novitiate in Los Gatos for four years, before dropping out and transferring to UC Berkeley, where he graduated in 1961 with an A. B. Classics degree. I'm wondering whether Santa Clara was the equivalent of HC on the West Coast, when it came to Jesuit vocations.
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Post by hchoops on Apr 12, 2020 7:41:37 GMT -5
In his visit to our Jesuit High School in 1962 Admissions Director, Fr.Miles Fay, asked all he interviewed if we had ever thought of being priests.
The first interviewee advised the rest of us about the question and the obvious preferred answer.
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Post by rgs318 on Apr 12, 2020 7:51:30 GMT -5
In his visit to our Jesuit High School in 1962 Admissions Director, Fr.Miles Fay, asked all he interviewed if we had ever thought of being priests. The first interviewee advised the rest of us about the question and the obvious preferred answer. Those "preferred answers" could do a lot and could work two ways. One classmate of mine had SAT scores so low it was almost a statistical impossibility (much lower than simply guessing). He felt he could never get into a good college (pre-community college days). He entered the Diocesan priesthood and went to Seton Hall. Upon graduation, he sadly let them know he had lost his vocation. His former girlfriend (who apparently had waited for him) married him about a month after he left the seminary. |
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Post by hc6774 on Apr 12, 2020 9:08:51 GMT -5
In his visit to our Jesuit High School in 1962 Admissions Director, Fr.Miles Fay, asked all he interviewed if we had ever thought of being priests. The first interviewee advised the rest of us about the question and the obvious preferred answer. Those "preferred answers" could do a lot and could work two ways. One classmate of mine had SAT scores so low it was almost a statistical impossibility (much lower than simply guessing). He felt he could never get into a good college (pre-community college days). He entered the Diocesan priesthood and went to Seton Hall. Upon graduation, he sadly let them know he had lost his vocation. His former girlfriend (who apparently had waited for him) married him about a month after he left the seminary. rgs - I believe we had the same guidance counselor in '62/'63. I always wondered why he said HC was the best school [for me?] on my list of 4 Jesuit schools, ND & Penn St. PM me with info about the SH classmate... I know one had a baseball scholarship to SH. |
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Apr 12, 2020 9:35:11 GMT -5
On p.50 of BC's Fact Book for 1971 are the median SAT V/M scores the BC classes graduating in 1962-69. www.bc.edu/content/dam/files/publications/factbook/pdf/1971_fact_book.pdfI'll let others compare their own SAT scores with those of the average BC student during that decade. BC uses the term "average of median SATs". That must mean the average of the separate medians for different BC schools, e.g., Arts & Sciences, Management, Education, Nursing, etc. |
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Post by DFW HOYA on Apr 12, 2020 13:28:15 GMT -5
I wonder how many present-day top of their class Regis grads select HC and other Catholic colleges? I suspect many go on to the IL, NESCAC schools. Here's the 2018 Regis grads list. Not as many Ivy League destinations as I might have thought. www.regis.org/articletest.cfm?id=8969 |
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Post by hcpride on Apr 12, 2020 16:11:03 GMT -5
I wonder how many present-day top of their class Regis grads select HC and other Catholic colleges? I suspect many go on to the IL, NESCAC schools. Here's the 2018 Regis grads list. Not as many Ivy League destinations as I might have thought. www.regis.org/articletest.cfm?id=8969(My Bold) From what I know from my two nephews, the very top tend to go HYP and Georgetown. (Obviously not every top ten kid every year.) DFW - It is not a Collegiate, Trinity, Spence type of NYC school so you're not going to see a boatload of Ivies each year. |
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Apr 12, 2020 17:20:01 GMT -5
That is an extraordinary list of top colleges. Most high schools send probably 75% of their grads to in-state state schools.
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Post by hchoops on Apr 12, 2020 17:45:12 GMT -5
Regis is a extraordinary school with a challenging test for admission and tuition free
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Apr 12, 2020 17:55:52 GMT -5
Regis is a extraordinary school with a challenging test for admission and tuition free The school must have a huge endowment. Was there a huge benefactor a few generations ago whose funding enables this policy? |
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Post by hchoops on Apr 12, 2020 18:00:12 GMT -5
Exactly
And it was an anonymous woman, for an all male school
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Post by hcpride on Apr 12, 2020 18:02:49 GMT -5
A secret foundress whose name was very recently revealed. I'm too lazy to look it up but I think it was the wealthy wife of the mayor or something along those lines and part of her donation was that her name would remain secret. All male and Catholic and those two requirements remain. Just looked it up here |
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