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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on May 24, 2020 8:25:31 GMT -5
In his riff with ConanO'Brien on their mutual association with HC (through their physician fathers), Colbert mentions a happenstance meeting in Arizona with a 'Bones' Hamilton, who was a classmate of his father. Which prompted me to wonder, who exactly was 'Bones' Hamilton? All that I have found to date was that 'Bones' was the captain of the HC 1942 basketball team. I found this brief reference to him in a HC magazine article from 2009. magazine.holycross.edu/issue_43_3/43_3_athletics/43_3_holland After reading the article, I think the hoops court at the Hart Center should be named Maxwell court, after Fr. Joseph Maxwell, president of HC (1939-45). Without Maxwell, there would be no HC NCAA hoops championship, or a Hart Center for that matter. And maybe name a corridor at Luth for the legendary Moose Krause. Indeed, I wonder why HC has not already named a building after Maxwell. No apparent skeletons in the closet. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_R._N._MaxwellAs for 'Bones', the search continues. |
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Post by hc6774 on May 24, 2020 9:53:39 GMT -5
From Fr K's book [pp 308-316]
Fr Maxwell took over a fund raising campaign to raise $1M to build 3 buildings, a faculty residence, science building and gymnasium. WWII doomed the campaign and he unsuccessfully pursued government funding for a gym with 2 bball courts [est cost $.75M] to support the Navy's ROTC & V-12 programs.
At the end of the war the gym project was resurrected by his successor Fr Healy. One of his advisors pointed out that a gym '...would be popular with students and help safe guard their moral lives because, he reported, there was an astonishing drop in temptation and sins of impurity after a gym had opened at another [unnamed] Catholic college. In 1948 Fr Healy obtained the old fieldhouse from government surplus.
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Post by hchoops on May 24, 2020 12:38:51 GMT -5
Richard “Bones” Hamilton was the captain of the 1941-42 team which went 5-4 under Moose Krause
He also played on the team in 1940(2-3)Season began in February, and 40-41(4-7), also under Krause
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Post by longsuffering on May 24, 2020 14:43:13 GMT -5
From Fr K's book [pp 308-316] Fr Maxwell took over a fund raising campaign to raise $1M to build 3 buildings, a faculty residence, science building and gymnasium. WWII doomed the campaign and he unsuccessfully pursued government funding for a gym with 2 bball courts [est cost $.75M] to support the Navy's ROTC & V-12 programs. At the end of the war the gym project was resurrected by his successor Fr Healy. One of his advisors pointed out that a gym '...would be popular with students and help safe guard their moral lives because, he reported, there was an astonishing drop in temptation and sins of impurity after a gym had opened at another [unnamed] Catholic college. In 1948 Fr Healy obtained the old fieldhouse from government surplus. I think HC got their money's worth out of the fieldhouse. Same for the Henry M. Hogan Center and the original Fr. Hart Center. |
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on May 24, 2020 15:10:03 GMT -5
Perhaps "Bones" has some descendants that our sleuths could contact in search of some stories about this Crusader great??
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on May 24, 2020 17:35:08 GMT -5
Perhaps "Bones" has some descendants that our sleuths could contact in search of some stories about this Crusader great?? Richard James (Bones) Hamilton He won the prize for the most outstanding student athlete in the class of 1942. B. S. in Business Administration Born Dec 2000 Bridgeport CT. Died April 2000 in Sun City, Maricopa, Arizona. (Colbert must have met in one of his last years.) Served in the Navy from August 1942 to October 1945. I'd have to pay for an obituary in the Arizona Republic 4 May 2000 to find survivors. |
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on May 24, 2020 19:42:46 GMT -5
PM me your address and I'll send cash to cover your costs if you want to take next step I'll send currency and if you just give me an address you can keep your name secret and I'll send it to "resident". In so doing we will not compromise your status as an international man of mystery  |
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Post by hchoops on May 24, 2020 21:34:22 GMT -5
Perhaps "Bones" has some descendants that our sleuths could contact in search of some stories about this Crusader great?? Richard James (Bones) Hamilton He won the prize for the most outstanding student athlete in the class of 1942. B. S. in Business Administration Born Dec 2000 Bridgeport CT. Died April 2000 i So he died before he was born |
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on May 25, 2020 6:17:16 GMT -5
Richard James (Bones) Hamilton He won the prize for the most outstanding student athlete in the class of 1942. B. S. in Business Administration Born Dec 2000 Bridgeport CT. Died April 2000 i So he died before he was born Hoops, I found that he was most remarkable! I am not sure if it was sloppy me, or auto-correct in Word. 'Bones' was born December 1920, son of Paul and Isabel. _______________________________ Kentucky, I take only Bitcoin these days. During these lockdown times, I wouldn't ask you to haul down the road to Knox and 'borrow' a 400 troy ounce bar. That bar would also be acceptable. ______________________________ As for commemorating Moose Krause, he, Cousy, Heinsohn, and Doggie Julian are the only members of the college basketball HoF associated with Holy Cross basketball. Krause resurrected the program, Julian brought it to its zenith, and Cousy and Heinsohn represent the glorious epoch of the 1940s-1950s. I think Julian should be commemorated as well, and it goes without saying that Heinsohn should be too. I think that inferior institution in Chestnut Hill only has Cousy to represent them. |
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Post by hchoops on May 25, 2020 7:25:31 GMT -5
George Kaftan should be in the College Hall of Fame
Maybe Togo.
Jack the Shot ?
RPJr ?
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on May 25, 2020 7:48:38 GMT -5
PM me your address and I'll send cash to cover your costs if you want to take next step I'll send currency and if you just give me an address you can keep your name secret and I'll send it to "resident". In so doing we will not compromise your status as an international man of mystery Sonovabitch. 'Bones' is a hard man to track down. Navy Lt. in WWII. I can trace his father and mother in Bridgeport city directories into the 1950s, but they are non-existent in the Federal censuses for 1920, 1930, 1940. At least one brother, born in 1924, died in 2015, so no tales from him. His father's mother was Irish (Phelan), I suspect his grandfather was of Yankee stock, as they would say in Massachusetts. Family owned Hamilton Brass Works in Bridgeport from at least the late 19th Century. |
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on May 25, 2020 7:50:57 GMT -5
George Kaftan should be in the College Hall of Fame Maybe Togo. Jack the Shot ? RPJr ? Hoops, I searched the Hall of Fame with Holy Cross as the search string: Cousy, Heinsohn, Julian. Moose is under Notre Dame where he was a 6'3" center. |
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Post by Tom on May 25, 2020 17:56:08 GMT -5
George Kaftan should be in the College Hall of Fame Maybe Togo. Jack the Shot ? RPJr ? Unlike football, I don't think there is such a thing as a college hall of fame. Some people are inducted into the basketball hall of fame for strictly college accomplishments. |
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Post by hchoops on May 25, 2020 18:15:51 GMT -5
There is a College Basketball Hall of Fame in Kansas City
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Post by CHC8485 on May 25, 2020 19:43:31 GMT -5
So he died before he was born Hoops, I found that he was most remarkable! I am not sure if it was sloppy me, or auto-correct in Word. 'Bones' was born December 1920, son of Paul and Isabel. _______________________________ Kentucky, I take only Bitcoin these days. During these lockdown times, I wouldn't ask you to haul down the road to Knox and 'borrow' a 400 troy ounce bar. That bar would also be acceptable. ______________________________ As for commemorating Moose Krause, he, Cousy, Heinsohn, and Doggie Julian are the only members of the college basketball HoF associated with Holy Cross basketball. Krause resurrected the program, Julian brought it to its zenith, and Cousy and Heinsohn represent the glorious epoch of the 1940s-1950s. I think Julian should be commemorated as well, and it goes without saying that Heinsohn should be too. I think that inferior institution in Chestnut Hill only has Cousy to represent them. Phreek, Don't know if it helps but just did a little digging on Ancestry. According to his WWII draft card, Richard James Hamilton was the the son of PHILIP (not Paul) Hamilton, which may explain why you couldn't find Paul Hamilton in the 1940 census. And James and Philip Hamilton and their family are in the 1930 and 1940 censuses.(censi?) According to the 1930 census here is the family and their ages in 1930: Philip Hamilton 45 Isable Hamilton 41(listed as Isabelle in the 1940 census) John Hamilton 14 Philip Hamilton 12 Richard Hamilton 9 Robert Hamilton 9 Frederick Hamilton 5 Mary Hamilton 3 (listed as Margaret in the 1940 census) |
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on May 26, 2020 5:51:53 GMT -5
Hoops, I found that he was most remarkable! I am not sure if it was sloppy me, or auto-correct in Word. 'Bones' was born December 1920, son of Paul and Isabel. _______________________________ Kentucky, I take only Bitcoin these days. During these lockdown times, I wouldn't ask you to haul down the road to Knox and 'borrow' a 400 troy ounce bar. That bar would also be acceptable. ______________________________ As for commemorating Moose Krause, he, Cousy, Heinsohn, and Doggie Julian are the only members of the college basketball HoF associated with Holy Cross basketball. Krause resurrected the program, Julian brought it to its zenith, and Cousy and Heinsohn represent the glorious epoch of the 1940s-1950s. I think Julian should be commemorated as well, and it goes without saying that Heinsohn should be too. I think that inferior institution in Chestnut Hill only has Cousy to represent them. Phreek, Don't know if it helps but just did a little digging on Ancestry. According to his WWII draft card, Richard James Hamilton was the the son of PHILIP (not Paul) Hamilton, which may explain why you couldn't find Paul Hamilton in the 1940 census. And James and Philip Hamilton and their family are in the 1930 and 1940 censuses.(censi?) According to the 1930 census here is the family and their ages in 1930: Philip Hamilton 45 Isable Hamilton 41(listed as Isabelle in the 1940 census) John Hamilton 14 Philip Hamilton 12 Richard Hamilton 9 Robert Hamilton 9 Frederick Hamilton 5 Mary Hamilton 3 (listed as Margaret in the 1940 census) chc8485, that you found them on the census and I did not, makes me want to cancel my Ancestry subscription., I too found the draft card, and the street address, and the house is still there. I guesstimated his father to have been born in 1895, and as 'Bones' on the draft card indicated he had been born in Bridgeport, I searched for Philip Hamilton (I corrected my earlier error of Paul) and the 1920, 1930, 1940 Federal censuses yielded no Philip Hamilton in Bridgeport. You may also have found a family history of the Hamilton family which includes his father, mother, and one brother. But this is not sourced and even some basic data on the parents is missing. |
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Post by Tom on May 26, 2020 8:04:37 GMT -5
There is a College Basketball Hall of Fame in Kansas City I did not know that, although it is kind of new. Apparently opening in 2006. The young by HoF standards basketball hall is 60 years old, so at 14 years, the college one is just a puppy It seems a little redundant if they're going to continue to induct people with strictly college credentials into the generic basketball hall in Springfield. Former Tennessee coach Pat Summitt was in this year's class. Last time I was in the Springfield hall (which is not the current building) there was a lot of cool college stuff including videos you could watch of Final Four's - including the 1947 one |
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Post by hamfamjam on Feb 14, 2021 10:26:15 GMT -5
Hoops, I found that he was most remarkable! I am not sure if it was sloppy me, or auto-correct in Word. 'Bones' was born December 1920, son of Paul and Isabel. _______________________________ Kentucky, I take only Bitcoin these days. During these lockdown times, I wouldn't ask you to haul down the road to Knox and 'borrow' a 400 troy ounce bar. That bar would also be acceptable. ______________________________ As for commemorating Moose Krause, he, Cousy, Heinsohn, and Doggie Julian are the only members of the college basketball HoF associated with Holy Cross basketball. Krause resurrected the program, Julian brought it to its zenith, and Cousy and Heinsohn represent the glorious epoch of the 1940s-1950s. I think Julian should be commemorated as well, and it goes without saying that Heinsohn should be too. I think that inferior institution in Chestnut Hill only has Cousy to represent them. Phreek, Don't know if it helps but just did a little digging on Ancestry. According to his WWII draft card, Richard James Hamilton was the the son of PHILIP (not Paul) Hamilton, which may explain why you couldn't find Paul Hamilton in the 1940 census. And James and Philip Hamilton and their family are in the 1930 and 1940 censuses.(censi?) According to the 1930 census here is the family and their ages in 1930: Philip Hamilton 45 Isable Hamilton 41(listed as Isabelle in the 1940 census) John Hamilton 14 Philip Hamilton 12 Richard Hamilton 9 Robert Hamilton 9 Frederick Hamilton 5 Mary Hamilton 3 (listed as Margaret in the 1940 census) Frederick was my grandfather if you have any questions about the family. I created an account here after recently being linked the Colbert video and googling around for more references to my great uncle Dick Hamilton ("Bones") and found this thread. I know it's a bit old but I figured I'd drop a line if anyone was interested. |
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Post by hchoops on Feb 14, 2021 10:54:56 GMT -5
Welcome and thanks for checking in
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Feb 14, 2021 11:50:00 GMT -5
Phreek, Don't know if it helps but just did a little digging on Ancestry. According to his WWII draft card, Richard James Hamilton was the the son of PHILIP (not Paul) Hamilton, which may explain why you couldn't find Paul Hamilton in the 1940 census. And James and Philip Hamilton and their family are in the 1930 and 1940 censuses.(censi?) According to the 1930 census here is the family and their ages in 1930: Philip Hamilton 45 Isable Hamilton 41(listed as Isabelle in the 1940 census) John Hamilton 14 Philip Hamilton 12 Richard Hamilton 9 Robert Hamilton 9 Frederick Hamilton 5 Mary Hamilton 3 (listed as Margaret in the 1940 census) Frederick was my grandfather if you have any questions about the family. I created an account here after recently being linked the Colbert video and googling around for more references to my great uncle Dick Hamilton ("Bones") and found this thread. I know it's a bit old but I figured I'd drop a line if anyone was interested. We occasionally veer off into arcane tangents on this board. My maternal great, great, great grandmother is a Colbert (1785-1822), but apparently no relation to Stephen. His Irish roots are from different counties than mine. |
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Post by phrobby on Feb 14, 2021 21:03:22 GMT -5
Hi there! I stumbled across this thread while searching my grandfather's business -- Hamilton Brassworks in Bridgeport. Bones Hamilton is my uncle Dick Hamilton! I got a kick out of seeing that exchange between Colbert and O'Brien. Shared the clip with my cousins, Patsy and Tom, who are Dick's (Bones) children. Our whole family really enjoyed it and it got us all messaging back and forth and reminiscing. Thank you!
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Post by Chu Chu on Feb 15, 2021 15:47:51 GMT -5
Hi there! I stumbled across this thread while searching my grandfather's business -- Hamilton Brassworks in Bridgeport. Bones Hamilton is my uncle Dick Hamilton! I got a kick out of seeing that exchange between Colbert and O'Brien. Shared the clip with my cousins, Patsy and Tom, who are Dick's (Bones) children. Our whole family really enjoyed it and it got us all messaging back and forth and reminiscing. Thank you! Wow! And here we have a fabulous example of the best and most fortuitous use of the Internet! Thanks for taking the time, phrobby! |
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Post by phrobby on Feb 15, 2021 21:52:23 GMT -5
According to my cousin Tom, his dad Bones had a contract with the NFL. Had offers from the Philadelphia Eagles and the Detroit Lions. But then WWII happened. He was in a ship that was torpedoed, but survived. Tom and his sister have contacted the Colbert show and are waiting to see if they reply! And now, my cousins and siblings are planning a Zoom reunion, thanks to all of you! Indeed, sometimes the internet does bring some good!
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