|
Post by Tom on Aug 20, 2020 14:07:31 GMT -5
In other news, from NYT On Wednesday, Massachusetts announced that it will require all students, ranging from six-month-olds in day care centers to those under 30, to get flu shots by Dec. 31. It is the first state to institute such a sweeping requirement for the shot, which is rarely mandated in the U.S. Part of the logic is that the flu has similar symptoms to COVID. There will potentially be people with the regular flu causing others to self quarantine, wanting a symptomatic tests. In person education is holding on by a thread. Right or wrong, the state is trying to reduce false COVID scares by reducing the flu
|
|
|
Post by hcpride on Aug 20, 2020 14:21:23 GMT -5
In other news, from NYT On Wednesday, Massachusetts announced that it will require all students, ranging from six-month-olds in day care centers to those under 30, to get flu shots by Dec. 31. It is the first state to institute such a sweeping requirement for the shot, which is rarely mandated in the U.S. NYT warned three days ago of a looming ‘twindemic’ when seasonal flu hits the same time as Covid. I don’t know if that is a new word. Hopefully requiring flu shots will diminish the death toll from seasonal flu.
|
|
|
Post by bfoley82 on Aug 20, 2020 14:22:49 GMT -5
In other news, from NYT On Wednesday, Massachusetts announced that it will require all students, ranging from six-month-olds in day care centers to those under 30, to get flu shots by Dec. 31. It is the first state to institute such a sweeping requirement for the shot, which is rarely mandated in the U.S. Part of the logic is that the flu has similar symptoms to COVID. There will potentially be people with the regular flu causing others to self quarantine, wanting a symptomatic tests. In person education is holding on by a thread. Right or wrong, the state is trying to reduce false COVID scares by reducing the flu Flu will be down anyways due to the fact people are wearing masks. See Australia's flu numbers this year www.advisory.com/daily-briefing/2020/07/24/coronavirus-restrictionswww.newscientist.com/article/2242113-australia-sees-huge-decrease-in-flu-cases-due-to-coronavirus-measures/
|
|
|
Post by lou on Aug 20, 2020 14:46:31 GMT -5
According to CDC
Most flu vaccines for the 2020-2021 season will be quadrivalent (four-component). One vaccine will also be available in a trivalent (three-component) formulation (in addition to a quadrivalent formulation), which is an adjuvanted vaccine specifically for people 65 years of age and older.
|
|
|
Post by rgs318 on Aug 20, 2020 16:35:51 GMT -5
I just got my first shingles shot. The RN told me that last year (as we usually do) we had our flu shot in early October. She said she recommended coming in by mid-September. She feels there may be a "run" on flu shots (especially the stronger shots for us old folks. We know it won't make a deference with the Covid-19 virus, but when had fact stopped a fear based run in the past?
|
|
|
Post by KY Crusader 75 on Aug 20, 2020 16:56:12 GMT -5
I’m guessing you meant “shingles” shot. A “singles” shot has an entirely different connotation for me...😊
|
|
|
Post by timholycross on Aug 20, 2020 18:25:48 GMT -5
RGS- if you live in MA, where did you get the shingles vaccine?
Was supposed to get it in 2019, never got it. Pain in the ass, was on a couple of phone lists (supposedly) and never got a call that they got the vaccine. One was a CVS, one a Walgreen's.
Don't know why the individual physician offices don't have it around here. At least mine does not.
|
|
|
Post by rgs318 on Aug 20, 2020 18:28:12 GMT -5
I’m guessing you meant “shingles” shot. A “singles” shot has an entirely different connotation for me...😊 That is what I meant! Some doctors do not have it because it is expensive and has a short shelf life.
|
|
|
Post by rgs318 on Aug 20, 2020 18:29:09 GMT -5
RGS- if you live in MA, where did you get the shingles vaccine? Was supposed to get it in 2019, never got it. Pain in the ass, was on a couple of phone lists (supposedly) and never got a call that they got the vaccine. One was a CVS, one a Walgreen's. Don't know why the individual physician offices don't have it around here. At least mine does not. Got it at Rite-Aid. (We are in NJ)
|
|
|
Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Aug 20, 2020 20:05:19 GMT -5
After reading Dean Murray's excoriation of the party-loving students, and listening to Fr. B.'s webinar for seniors and parents, two main conclusions. HC would like to bring the entire campus back for the spring semester. Failing that, it would like to bring the senior class (first priority) and second priority, the freshmen class. The January term, one course, is still on. <<< This is reading between the lines, with some extrapolation. On the decision to go remote for fall semester. Main reasons: Testing shortfalls. Broad Institute was let somewhat off the hook. On August 12, Fr. B. told the seniors that testing resources were indeed limited, and demands for testing were growing significantly. Some of this may be the result of new testing initiatives. The reagent shortages may be related to planned or programmed increases in the number of daily tests. Today, Governor Baker said that school students would be tested at schools where students/staff were found to be infected, with quick test results. To me, this suggests Broad is being enlisted, as its test provides quick results. This could constrain the Institutes capability to fulfill the contracted-for testing program with some colleges/universities. www.mass.gov/news/baker-polito-administration-announces-testing-initiatives-to-support-k-12-schoolsContact tracing. Neither HC nor apparently local health authorities, were able to secure any resources to do contact tracing. Indoor dining. The state changed indoor dining rules, which made these rules even more restrictive. Fr. B. indicated HC did not have capacity to provide indoor dining for 2500+ students living on-campus, under these new restrictions. I do not know the specifics of the new restrictions, but, based on what he said, these appear to further limit interaction between students and dining staff; Open buffets were prohibited, and it may be that having dining room staff serve portions was now restricted as well.
|
|
|
Post by bison137 on Aug 20, 2020 21:06:49 GMT -5
RGS- if you live in MA, where did you get the shingles vaccine? Was supposed to get it in 2019, never got it. Pain in the ass, was on a couple of phone lists (supposedly) and never got a call that they got the vaccine. One was a CVS, one a Walgreen's. Don't know why the individual physician offices don't have it around here. At least mine does not. Have you tried pharmacies? In CT, it seems like the pharmacies, including those in grocery stores, have a more-than-adequate supply. They have signs up about it and market it as they ring up other prescriptions. No appointment required.
|
|
|
Post by bison137 on Aug 20, 2020 21:14:36 GMT -5
Indoor dining. The state changed indoor dining rules, which made these rules even more restrictive. Fr. B. indicated HC did not have capacity to provide indoor dining for 2500+ students living on-campus, under these new restrictions. I do not know the specifics of the new restrictions, but, based on what he said, these appear to further limit interaction between students and dining staff; Open buffets were prohibited, and it may be that having dining room staff serve portions was now restricted as well. I think that may have been an issue at Bucknell as well. The cafeteria - which usually has a large and surprisingly good variety of food - has changed this semester to only offering seven pre-packaged meals. No buffet. Two smaller food places have the same situation.
|
|
|
Post by bfoley82 on Aug 21, 2020 1:20:48 GMT -5
Indoor dining. The state changed indoor dining rules, which made these rules even more restrictive. Fr. B. indicated HC did not have capacity to provide indoor dining for 2500+ students living on-campus, under these new restrictions. I do not know the specifics of the new restrictions, but, based on what he said, these appear to further limit interaction between students and dining staff; Open buffets were prohibited, and it may be that having dining room staff serve portions was now restricted as well. I think that may have been an issue at Bucknell as well. The cafeteria - which usually has a large and surprisingly good variety of food - has changed this semester to only offering seven pre-packaged meals. No buffet. Two smaller food places have the same situation. Pretty sure that most schools are take out only if they are in person!
|
|
|
Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Aug 21, 2020 5:47:42 GMT -5
My less than perfect understanding of HC's original dining plan was that it would offer both 'grab and go' pre-packaged meals, and served portions from a buffet; i.e., kitchen staff would portion a student's selections from the buffet, rather than the student helping him/her self.
The new state restrictions apparently take the buffet off the table (so to speak) either because there is to be less staff-student interaction in dining areas, or the limits on interaction meant a prolonged dining experience, or both. A two hour window for feeding 1200 students means 600 students per hour, ten per minute, not enough time.
|
|
|
Post by timholycross on Aug 21, 2020 7:26:52 GMT -5
RGS- if you live in MA, where did you get the shingles vaccine? Was supposed to get it in 2019, never got it. Pain in the ass, was on a couple of phone lists (supposedly) and never got a call that they got the vaccine. One was a CVS, one a Walgreen's. Don't know why the individual physician offices don't have it around here. At least mine does not. Have you tried pharmacies? In CT, it seems like the pharmacies, including those in grocery stores, have a more-than-adequate supply. They have signs up about it and market it as they ring up other prescriptions. No appointment required. Those are the people (CVS and Walgreen's) that were supposed to call. Neither one did and after a while I stopped asking. At one point the vaccine was said to not be very effective, although I understand that's changed and I should get it.
|
|
|
Post by Tom on Aug 21, 2020 8:16:30 GMT -5
RGS- if you live in MA, where did you get the shingles vaccine? Was supposed to get it in 2019, never got it. Pain in the ass, was on a couple of phone lists (supposedly) and never got a call that they got the vaccine. One was a CVS, one a Walgreen's. Don't know why the individual physician offices don't have it around here. At least mine does not. I got mine at CVS in MA. First dose in early March. Second dose a couple of months later. The pharmacist said they didn't have any but should have some in about a week. I was on a phone list but just walked in a week later and they had some. Never received a call. No issues at all for the second dose, but that might have something to do with the pandemic and people not wanting to be starting the cycle
|
|
|
Post by bison137 on Aug 21, 2020 10:19:46 GMT -5
I think that may have been an issue at Bucknell as well. The cafeteria - which usually has a large and surprisingly good variety of food - has changed this semester to only offering seven pre-packaged meals. No buffet. Two smaller food places have the same situation. Pretty sure that most schools are take out only if they are in person! Thanks for noting that. The quote I was responding to was PP's analysis of HC's decision.
|
|
|
Post by Crucis#1 on Aug 21, 2020 20:52:50 GMT -5
|
|
|
Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Aug 22, 2020 6:33:44 GMT -5
|
|
|
Post by Chu Chu on Aug 22, 2020 15:57:30 GMT -5
Res ipsa loquitur
|
|
|
Post by Crucis#1 on Aug 22, 2020 17:38:26 GMT -5
|
|
|
Post by hchoops on Aug 23, 2020 11:22:16 GMT -5
CNN reported that there have been 17,000 cases so far of COVID connected with college openings
|
|
|
Post by Crucis#1 on Aug 23, 2020 11:39:45 GMT -5
372 cases at Notre Dame as of 8/21/20. Notre Dame last update was on Friday.
|
|
|
Post by hcpride on Aug 23, 2020 16:00:14 GMT -5
I’d wildly guesstimate a couple of thousand ND kids have gotten (and recovered from) Covid 19. Most with no idea unless they got an antibody test. Wouldn’t be surprised if there are a couple of thousand more in the future.
I’d guess hundreds (given the size difference) of HC students, of course, caught Covid. Most with no idea unless they got an antibody test. No idea how many HC students have it now (to the extent that matters).
|
|
|
Post by crossbball13 on Aug 23, 2020 17:11:53 GMT -5
I’d wildly guesstimate a couple of thousand ND kids have gotten (and recovered from) Covid 19. Most with no idea unless they got an antibody test. Wouldn’t be surprised if there are a couple of thousand more in the future. I’d guess hundreds (given the size difference) of HC students, of course, caught Covid. Most with no idea unless they got an antibody test. No idea how many HC students have it now (to the extent that matters). Not sure what your point is? Colleges are usually entwined with the communities in which they’re located (which is the case for both ND and HC). Many community members are affected quite negatively by contracting COVID. If students show up without COVID, contract COVID, and subsequently accelerate the spread COVID within the community...then that’s bad.
|
|