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Post by timholycross on Dec 29, 2020 17:20:21 GMT -5
Always wondered when George Blaney knew that the team he started out with wasn't really that good. Did he know right away or did the results catch him by surprise? A lot going on there, a lot of it not good, trust me.
9-17 by the way, you shorted him a win (1973-74 was indeed 8-18).
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Post by mm67 on Dec 29, 2020 17:28:44 GMT -5
A shot in the dark. Prognostications for better or worse: Improved: Rebounding, Defense, Spirited Play and Ruggedness/toughness. Concerns: Turnovers, Assists, Shot selection, Outside Shooting, Team Speed, Lack of Effective Cohesive play on both ends of the court. Obviously, inexperience is a cloud hanging over this year's team. Will Coach Nelson & staff coach his guys up? At what point during the season will the team play as a team - "five fingers on a hand"(Wooden's '64 UCLA Goodrich - Hazzard national championship team) Will there be a full 16 game season? I doubt it.
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Post by possum on Dec 29, 2020 17:50:22 GMT -5
Yeah it's funny how good a coach you become when a couple of superstars show up on campus. Not only Blaney, Gavitt was 18-35 at Dartmouth went to Providence Ernie D shows up and the rest is history.
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Post by efg72 on Dec 29, 2020 18:12:34 GMT -5
Success in 2020-21 would be 4-6 wins and a guy on the bench who doesn't have a deer in the headlights look. Maybe a tough bar on wins, but a very low bar on coaching
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Post by efg72 on Dec 29, 2020 18:17:46 GMT -5
Yeah it's funny how good a coach you become when a couple of superstars show up on campus. Not only Blaney, Gavitt was 18-35 at Dartmouth went to Providence Ernie D shows up and the rest is history. Possum ask any coach how it is to coach real talent-not easy as you manage as much as you coach x’s and o’s While great to have you need to be special at your craft to be successful Much easier to coach the lower end and have them exceed expectations It is the same in the workplace
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Post by rgs318 on Dec 29, 2020 18:38:52 GMT -5
I literally saw nothing positive last basketball season. Apparently you did not turn in to any of the games when HC had Pridgen earning frosh of the year. Selective vision?
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Post by possum on Dec 29, 2020 19:01:03 GMT -5
In basketball talent wins when's the last time in the NBA the best team didn't win, Lebron might be a pain in the butt to coach but at the end of the day he's taking the coach to the title not the other way around. Only in hockey do you see teams come out of nowhere to win the title. I'm sure Marvin Barnes was tough to deal with but don't think Gavitt wished he was back at Dartmouth trying to make something out of nothing.
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Post by thecrossisback on Dec 29, 2020 19:08:43 GMT -5
In basketball talent wins when's the last time in the NBA the best team didn't win, Lebron might be a pain in the butt to coach but at the end of the day he's taking the coach to the title not the other way around. Only in hockey do you see teams come out of nowhere to win the title. I'm sure Marvin Barnes was tough to deal with but don't think Gavitt wished he was back at Dartmouth trying to make something out of nothing. I agree but you can be out coached in a basketball game and beat by good shooting. Not all basketball teams play above the rim. Jim V out coached Guy Lewis and Houston Rollie out coached Thompson and Georgetown Carril (Princeton) almost out coached Thompson and Georgetown.
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Post by sader1970 on Dec 29, 2020 19:44:51 GMT -5
And how did that work out long term?
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Post by rgs318 on Dec 29, 2020 20:27:34 GMT -5
And how did that work out long term? Not well for HC...and that has no meaning here. The original post said that there was nothing (emphasis by poster) positive to see all year. That, of course, is not correct. And it even ignores HC's three wins.
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Post by sader1970 on Dec 29, 2020 21:03:31 GMT -5
Rob: 1. Sorry, nothing positive about a 3 win and 29 loss season. If any wins is a positive for you, even 3, you have a lower bar for success than I and I don't see that as a positive. We can agree to disagree, 2. As for JP, yes he played well but if you can't keep him, which we didn't, I also don't see that as a positive. While he may have indeed played one season, before the year was out he was transferring. Technically, you are right, I did say season, not year. And, his sterling play may have contributed to the 3 wins but his contributions didn't prevent us from losing 29 times including to a non-D1 team.
You get points from me for your positive outlook. Happy New Year!
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Post by rgs318 on Dec 29, 2020 21:21:08 GMT -5
1. If you insist on looking only at the final record, you are right. However, each win is..let's see...a WIN. I set the bar for each game quite differently than I do for the season. Yes, I do see wins as better than losses. You can disagree but if you do you must have loved last year. 2.So the good games he played became bad games because he decided to transfer? I have to disagree. I try to avoid universals (such as "nothing" positive). That can create a position that is almost impossible to defend. I got your point, just have an issue with the way you tried to express it.
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