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Post by thecrossisback on Mar 21, 2021 14:17:48 GMT -5
Fr LeBran S.J. was a fixture at football games for years..... Can we evah approach how good this Loyola team is in your opinion? Yes, get a coach that recruits really good players. Mid Majors have a better chance to win now. They have players that are seniors and juniors vs freshman. -Also helps to get some experience a couple years in a row in the tournament. Players see what it takes. Need a good mix of size, athletes and shooters. -Loyola Chicago is all in on mens basketball, if we did that it would be a lot different. -I keep saying it and sorry but, Pitino brings in 11 players to Iona and they make the NCAA. When you can get that high level a coach. HC can have success. Look at Loyola before Moser. They had done nothing since 1985 and before that since they cut down the nets. -They were not a mid major power.
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Post by hchoops on Mar 21, 2021 14:18:53 GMT -5
Very difficult to accomplish with the AI and in the PL Neither Bucknell nor Lehigh could sustain their NCAA tourney success
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Post by possum on Mar 21, 2021 14:28:02 GMT -5
Loyola was very patient with Moser first 3 years record was 31-62, it appears their patience paid off.
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Post by rgs318 on Mar 21, 2021 14:28:37 GMT -5
A pregame prayer, sure but I couldn’t read her lips through her mask or read her mind from my seat Did you miss the rosary the was holding? Also, in one interview I heard her say that she did pray throughout the game. Did she lie?
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Post by rgs318 on Mar 21, 2021 14:32:52 GMT -5
-I keep saying it and sorry but, Pitino brings in 11 players to Iona and they make the NCAA. When you can get that high level a coach. HC can have success. And they lost in the first round to maintain their 0-13 record in NCAA tournament games (only 1 of those with Pitino). Isn't that what happened in each of the three previous seasons without Pitino?
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Post by trimster on Mar 21, 2021 14:36:50 GMT -5
Fr LeBran S.J. was a fixture at football games for years..... Can we evah approach how good this Loyola team is in your opinion? Yes, get a coach that recruits really good players. Mid Majors have a better chance to win now. They have players that are seniors and juniors vs freshman. -Also helps to get some experience a couple years in a row in the tournament. Players see what it takes. Need a good mix of size, athletes and shooters. -Loyola Chicago is all in on mens basketball, if we did that it would be a lot different. -I keep saying it and sorry but, Pitino brings in 11 players to Iona and they make the NCAA. When you can get that high level a coach. HC can have success. Look at Loyola before Moser. They had done nothing since 1985 and before that since they cut down the nets. -They were not a mid major power. I would like to think we could be but I don't see it happening. The administration would find a way to shoot ourselves in the foot based on the track record and I also think they are quite happy with the participatory model. As someone pointed out Loyola sponsors six varsity sports. I think HC has 27 varsity programs. Resources are really spread around.
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Post by hc87 on Mar 21, 2021 14:43:37 GMT -5
-I keep saying it and sorry but, Pitino brings in 11 players to Iona and they make the NCAA. When you can get that high level a coach. HC can have success. And they lost in the first round to maintain their 0-13 record in NCAA tournament games (only 1 of those with Pitino). Isn't that what happened in each of the three previous seasons without Pitino? Picking a nit, but I know Iona has won at least 1 NCAA game...they beat us in 1980, was in attendance at the Providence Civic Centahh.
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Post by possum on Mar 21, 2021 14:45:46 GMT -5
Let's put to rest the idea that Pitino took over some juggernaut at Iona, in 2019-20 their record was 12-17 and they brought back 3 players that collectively averaged 25 points a game. With that record, they obviously weren't going to the tournament last year.
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Post by rgs318 on Mar 21, 2021 14:48:21 GMT -5
And they lost in the first round to maintain their 0-13 record in NCAA tournament games (only 1 of those with Pitino). Isn't that what happened in each of the three previous seasons without Pitino? Picking a nit, but I know Iona has won at least 1 NCAA game...they beat us in 1980, was in attendance at the Providence Civic Centahh. Further picking that nit...they had to forfeit that win for using an ineligible player (Ruland had signed a pro contract before that game).
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Post by hc87 on Mar 21, 2021 14:52:08 GMT -5
Picking a nit, but I know Iona has won at least 1 NCAA game...they beat us in 1980, was in attendance at the Providence Civic Centahh. Further picking that nit...they had to forfeit that win for using an ineligible player (Ruland had signed a pro contract before that game). Touche...you're a sticklahh
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Post by rgs318 on Mar 21, 2021 14:52:09 GMT -5
Let's put to rest the idea that Pitino took over some juggernaut at Iona, in 2019-20 their record was 12-17 and they brought back 3 players that collectively averaged 25 points a game. With that record, they obviously weren't going to the tournament last year. Not sure anyone said juggernaut so no need to put that to rest. However, Iona has been in all of the last 4 NCAA Tournaments. True, they probably would not have gone last year but there was no tournament so no one else went either.
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Post by timholycross on Mar 21, 2021 17:21:08 GMT -5
For the record, Iona got knocked out of the MAAC tournament in the quarterfinals in 2019-20. St. Peter's beat them before Covid beat everyone.
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Post by bfoley82 on Mar 21, 2021 17:26:24 GMT -5
Yes, get a coach that recruits really good players. Mid Majors have a better chance to win now. They have players that are seniors and juniors vs freshman. -Also helps to get some experience a couple years in a row in the tournament. Players see what it takes. Need a good mix of size, athletes and shooters. -Loyola Chicago is all in on mens basketball, if we did that it would be a lot different. -I keep saying it and sorry but, Pitino brings in 11 players to Iona and they make the NCAA. When you can get that high level a coach. HC can have success. Look at Loyola before Moser. They had done nothing since 1985 and before that since they cut down the nets. -They were not a mid major power. I would like to think we could be but I don't see it happening. The administration would find a way to shoot ourselves in the foot based on the track record and I also think they are quite happy with the participatory model. As someone pointed out Loyola sponsors six varsity sports. I think HC has 27 varsity programs. Resources are really spread around. Loyola (Chicago) sponsors 13 varsity sports including one sport Holy Cross doesn't sponsor in men's volleyball
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Post by joe on Mar 21, 2021 17:42:18 GMT -5
Fr LeBran S.J. was a fixture at football games for years..... Can we evah approach how good this Loyola team is in your opinion? One season, my friend and I who were both injured drove him up to the Colgate game with another friend in Father’s old jalopy, with the heat on about 95 the whole way. Every time we tried distracting him enough to turn it down he caught us and turned it back up. He let us raid the Campion basement for tailgating stuff before we left. He wore a hat that read “All the Way with Yahweh.” Father Reedy gave us his credit card after the game so we could stop for a proper meal on the way back home (same day!). He was a good man and that was one of the nicer memories I have of my college days. He was 100% our Sister Jean, minus the national spotlight.
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Mar 21, 2021 18:07:00 GMT -5
Krutwig and company ruined my bracket, but I love it. Such a joy to watch that team perform.
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Post by longsuffering on Mar 21, 2021 18:09:39 GMT -5
Fr LeBran S.J. was a fixture at football games for years..... Can we evah approach how good this Loyola team is in your opinion? One season, my friend and I who were both injured drove him up to the Colgate game with another friend in Father’s old jalopy, with the heat on about 95 the whole way. Every time we tried distracting him enough to turn it down he caught us and turned it back up. He let us raid the Campion basement for tailgating stuff before we left. He wore a hat that read “All the Way with Yahweh.” Father Reedy gave us his credit card after the game so we could stop for a proper meal on the way back home (same day!). He was a good man and that was one of the nicer memories I have of my college days. He was 100% our Sister Jean, minus the national spotlight. Father LaBran was the Mayor of Campion. I attended a Washington anti-war rally with him in 1971 so he had a good long reign.
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Post by Crucis#1 on Mar 21, 2021 18:09:48 GMT -5
I would like to think we could be but I don't see it happening. The administration would find a way to shoot ourselves in the foot based on the track record and I also think they are quite happy with the participatory model. As someone pointed out Loyola sponsors six varsity sports. I think HC has 27 varsity programs. Resources are really spread around. Loyola (Chicago) sponsors 13 varsity sports including one sport Holy Cross doesn't sponsor in men's volleyball Loyola sponsors six sports for men.and 7 for women. The plant infrastructure for athletics consists of three venues. Gentile Arena, Loyola Soccer Park and Loyola Softball Park. For men, their prime programs are Basketball and Volleyball. Holy Cross has 8 Outside Varsity Competition Venues ams 4 Inside Varsity Competition Venues. The two schools, while Jesuit, work on entirely two different athletic models. Loyola runs a very lean model for varsity athletic competition, Loyola Chicago has 12,000 undergraduate students, Holy Cross has 3,000 students. loyolaramblers.com/facilities
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Post by longsuffering on Mar 21, 2021 18:12:45 GMT -5
I would like to think we could be but I don't see it happening. The administration would find a way to shoot ourselves in the foot based on the track record and I also think they are quite happy with the participatory model. As someone pointed out Loyola sponsors six varsity sports. I think HC has 27 varsity programs. Resources are really spread around. Loyola (Chicago) sponsors 13 varsity sports including one sport Holy Cross doesn't sponsor in men's volleyball AIC sponsors 22 varsity sports with less than half the undergraduates of HC and still manages to get to the NCAA from the AHA.
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Post by Crucis#1 on Mar 21, 2021 18:57:52 GMT -5
I believe AIC sponsors 25 sports according to their fact sheet below: www.aic.edu/about/fast-facts/Men’s Ice Hockey is their only D1 sport. They do not sponsor Women’s Ice Hockey, Just like Bentley. AIC is in a precarious financial picture with an endowment of less than $17 million dollars.
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Post by bfoley82 on Mar 21, 2021 19:20:53 GMT -5
I believe AIC sponsors 25 sports according to their fact sheet below: www.aic.edu/about/fast-facts/Men’s Ice Hockey is there only D1 sport. They do not sponsor Women’s Ice Hockey, Just like Bentley. AIC is in a precarious financial picture with an endowment of less than $17 million dollars. AIC has varsity programs in Women's Rugby and Triathlon which Holy Cross does not sponsor. AIC is adding men's volleyball this fall also.
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Post by Chu Chu on Mar 21, 2021 19:22:45 GMT -5
One season, my friend and I who were both injured drove him up to the Colgate game with another friend in Father’s old jalopy, with the heat on about 95 the whole way. Every time we tried distracting him enough to turn it down he caught us and turned it back up. He let us raid the Campion basement for tailgating stuff before we left. He wore a hat that read “All the Way with Yahweh.” Father Reedy gave us his credit card after the game so we could stop for a proper meal on the way back home (same day!). He was a good man and that was one of the nicer memories I have of my college days. He was 100% our Sister Jean, minus the national spotlight. Father LaBran was the Mayor of Campion. I attended a Washington anti-war rally with him in 1971 so he had a good long reign. Our nickname for Father LaBran was "Bagdaddy", in honor of his time teaching at the Jesuit University in Bagdad, Iraq.
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Post by Crucis#1 on Mar 21, 2021 19:57:18 GMT -5
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Post by longsuffering on Mar 21, 2021 20:01:06 GMT -5
Father LaBran was the Mayor of Campion. I attended a Washington anti-war rally with him in 1971 so he had a good long reign. Our nickname for Father LaBran was "Bagdaddy", in honor of his time teaching at the Jesuit University in Bagdad, Iraq. Perhaps he taught a young "Baghdad Bob".
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Post by bfoley82 on Mar 21, 2021 20:09:58 GMT -5
Yea, it isn't a VARSITY sport like AIC has.
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Post by Crucis#1 on Mar 21, 2021 20:29:34 GMT -5
So, What’s your point? I am not seeing the relevance of AIC having a Rugby team to our discussion. Why do you think it is a Varsity Team? That category does not exist in a formal level, certainly not by the NCAA. Rugby as a men’s sport at AIC is a club sport, not varsity. It is a varsity sport for women. aicyellowjackets.comen.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/College_rugby#Governance“In the United States, college rugby is governed by (in descending order of authority): USA Rugby, geographical unions (GUs) and local area unions (LAUs) (e.g., NERFU). USA Rugby has established a College Management Committee and a collegiate director, Rich Cortez, to oversee college rugby.[24] The NCAA has no authority over college rugby. Often called a club sport, each college team is administered by either the athletic department or the student club department.” UC Santa Barbara does not have a Nordic or Alpine Ski Program. Colleges and Universities are going through a critical assessment regarding the Return on Investment and the relevance to their institutions. Stanford, just cut 11 sports, that has more of a critical impact to the USA Olympic Sports Programs and our country’s ability to compete in the Olympics this summer than AIC Rugby. Good for AIC having a Varsity Rugby Program. Maybe we will see it on the ESPN family of networks this spring. In case you don’t know, Men’s Rugby is not a NCAA sanctioned sport. Women’s Rugby 🏉 is a NCAA emerging sport. A list of schools that have Rugby can be found in the Wiki article posted above.. With a $17 million dollar endowment, let’s hope that AIC will survive to continue sponsoring Rugby on a varsity level for Women. Wonder what their athletic budget is each year? There are certainly budget cuts on the horizon, just not in athletics but also to the college’s Academic offerings which is unfortunate. www.masslive.com/news/2020/07/springfields-american-international-college-says-17m-budget-gap-will-force-faculty-cuts.html
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