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Post by timholycross on May 1, 2021 17:50:34 GMT -5
Colgate got a bye in 2018 and a home game. Were they really one of the top 8 teams in the country....or just one of the top 8 league champions?
I'm sure that the criteria in spring 2021 was not the same as other years.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on May 1, 2021 21:15:13 GMT -5
Colgate got a bye in 2018 and a home game. Were they really one of the top 8 teams in the country....or just one of the top 8 league champions? I'm sure that the criteria in spring 2021 was not the same as other years. Top 8 in the country. The playoff this year was 16 teams, not 24. So less at-large berths and no byes.
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Post by HC92 on May 2, 2021 8:46:18 GMT -5
Weird how Colgate dropped off so quickly. They were 4-8 in 2019 and 0-2 this Spring. Have to assume they’ll be back to contending at some point. Hopefully not soon.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on May 3, 2021 6:25:18 GMT -5
Weird how Colgate dropped off so quickly. They were 4-8 in 2019 and 0-2 this Spring. Have to assume they’ll be back to contending at some point. Hopefully not soon. The drop-off after their 2018 season wasn't expected to be THAT steep, since they returned a few all-league defensive players. Hopefully, they're at least a couple years away. Next year the top two teams without question should be Holy Cross and Fordham, and then who knows after that. Seems like the PL of late always has at least one team that's unexpectedly a contender and another that's unexpectedly really bad.
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Post by thecrossisback on May 3, 2021 6:46:18 GMT -5
More PL teams need to start contending in football. But I don't see it happening.
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Post by timholycross on May 4, 2021 10:38:47 GMT -5
Colgate got a bye in 2018 and a home game. Were they really one of the top 8 teams in the country....or just one of the top 8 league champions? I'm sure that the criteria in spring 2021 was not the same as other years. Top 8 in the country. The playoff this year was 16 teams, not 24. So less at-large berths and no byes. Well that's a good thing in a sense- if a Patriot League school does well enough in OOC games they'll be ranked that high.
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Post by cruskater31 on May 18, 2021 12:25:02 GMT -5
Just looking over the UConn schedule. When did they drop out of the AAC? I know they didn't play last season, but I figured they'd be back for more losses at USF and Houston. Time for UMass and UConn to join the CAA or a new Yankee Conference I think.
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on May 18, 2021 12:49:30 GMT -5
Got the heave-ho when hoops and other sports went to the BE.
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Post by HC92 on May 18, 2021 16:46:56 GMT -5
Just looking over the UConn schedule. When did they drop out of the AAC? I know they didn't play last season, but I figured they'd be back for more losses at USF and Houston. Time for UMass and UConn to join the CAA or a new Yankee Conference I think. June 2019.
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Post by longsuffering on May 18, 2021 18:07:44 GMT -5
Just looking over the UConn schedule. When did they drop out of the AAC? I know they didn't play last season, but I figured they'd be back for more losses at USF and Houston. Time for UMass and UConn to join the CAA or a new Yankee Conference I think. UMass and UConn Football to the FCS/CAA is so obvious they can't see it.
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Post by hcgrad94 on May 18, 2021 18:18:52 GMT -5
Weird how Colgate dropped off so quickly. They were 4-8 in 2019 and 0-2 this Spring. Have to assume they’ll be back to contending at some point. Hopefully not soon. Coach was apparently distracted for the last few years. May have had a hand in things.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on May 18, 2021 19:31:24 GMT -5
Just looking over the UConn schedule. When did they drop out of the AAC? I know they didn't play last season, but I figured they'd be back for more losses at USF and Houston. Time for UMass and UConn to join the CAA or a new Yankee Conference I think. The CAA is the new Yankee Conference. Yankee became A-10 Football in 1997. A-10 Football became CAA Football in 2006. IMO, it's a matter of time before UMASS comes back to FCS, and the CAA. UCONN -- as long as they can remain somewhat viable as an independent, I can't see them dropping down with a 40K seat taxpayer-funded stadium. MAC could be an option for UCONN.
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on May 18, 2021 20:03:41 GMT -5
ND, BYU, and AWP are the only indy schools with viability as such. Conn, like UMess has virtually zero.
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Post by gerry on May 19, 2021 7:55:59 GMT -5
Given that the state owns Rentschler Field, I don't see how UConn ever goes back to FCS.
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Post by rgs318 on May 19, 2021 8:08:27 GMT -5
I am not sure that would be the case. Some fans would care, but why would "the state" care if UConn were FCS or FBS in football. As state universities have shown in other states, there can still be crowds there for FCS games IF the team is winning.
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Post by alum on May 19, 2021 8:13:20 GMT -5
Given that the state owns Rentschler Field, I don't see how UConn ever goes back to FCS. That's the same logic which causes the last three college students at a party to try to finish the third keg even though it is still half full.
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Post by gerry on May 19, 2021 8:28:41 GMT -5
A 40,000 seat off campus facility was not built for UConn to play Elon, Albany, and Stony Brook. The stadium cost nearly $100M and was built specifically for UConn's FBS upgrade. Regardless of UConn's standing at the FBS level, they do have home games with Purdue, Wyoming, Houston, Syracuse, Fresno State, BC, Duke, Maryland, Indiana, Ole Miss, and North Carolina over the next several years. They have several buy games against national powers like Clemson, Michigan, Tennessee, and Ohio State. They have their own TV contract with CBSSN. They may not be good, but they are on solid footing at the FBS level (10X better than UMass), and I highly doubt the state is going to allow them to bail on the stadium they provided for them to play in front of 7K in the money pit that is scholarship FCS
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Post by Crucis#1 on May 19, 2021 8:31:00 GMT -5
I was at the UConn campus several weeks ago. They have executed a remarkable transformation of the campus and the commercial area across the street from the campus. Well executed planning has changed the athletic facilities from a hodgepodge of semi decrepit buildings, to an attractive “Athletic Village“. Their new facilities certainly show a commitment to an FBS level. While the Rent is off campus, due to traffic accessibility issues for a 40 Thousand Seat Stadium, their on campus training facilities are definitely FBS quality. Take a look at the Shenkman Training Center, that has a 120 yard field and a 18,000 sq foot training and conditioning center. There are several P5 schools that do not have as nice a building for their football team. I was impressed with how the Athletic Village has now taken shape in the area to the west of the Gampel Pavillion. Their new softball stadium that opened this year, across from Shenkman, should be the model HC uses for the new complex at Fitton. The Big East Softball Championships were held there last weekend. The softball complex is first class. uconnhuskies.com/facilities/mark-r-shenkman-training-center/22maps.uconn.edu/m/info/BFFCuconnhuskies.com/facilities/burrill-family-field-at-the-connecticut-softball-complex/8
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on May 19, 2021 8:57:20 GMT -5
A 40,000 seat off campus facility was not built for UConn to play Elon, Albany, and Stony Brook. The stadium cost nearly $100M and was built specifically for UConn's FBS upgrade. Regardless of UConn's standing at the FBS level, they do have home games with Purdue, Wyoming, Houston, Syracuse, Fresno State, BC, Duke, Maryland, Indiana, Ole Miss, and North Carolina over the next several years. They have several buy games against national powers like Clemson, Michigan, Tennessee, and Ohio State. They have their own TV contract with CBSSN. They may not be good, but they are on solid footing at the FBS level (10X better than UMass), and I highly doubt the state is going to allow them to bail on the stadium they provided for them to play in front of 7K in the money pit that is scholarship FCS And they'll be lucky to stay within 4 TD's vs any of these opponents. What's the point of going 0-12 every yr or eeking out a W vs a 1AA to go 1-11?
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Post by HC92 on May 19, 2021 8:59:53 GMT -5
The concept of a sunk cost is an important one here. All that matters financially is how much money they will lose from this point forward in FBS vs FCS.
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Post by thecrossisback on May 19, 2021 9:10:47 GMT -5
I guess they are kind of stuck in FBS, but I think they would make some runs at a championship in FCS. Which is a much better competitive level for them. They could probably host some playoff games. I wish them and Umass went down because it would make the east a much bigger power in FCS. Have some of the playoff games in the east opposed to the Dakotas.
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Post by Tom on May 19, 2021 9:11:32 GMT -5
Given that the state owns Rentschler Field, I don't see how UConn ever goes back to FCS. That's the same logic which causes the last three college students at a party to try to finish the third keg even though it is still half full. WAIT! Are you saying this is suddenly bad logic? I'm pretty sure when I was one of those three HC students it was a wise decision
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Post by gerry on May 19, 2021 9:16:56 GMT -5
It's nice to see that you can see into the future. UConn was in the Fiesta Bowl only a decade ago. Schools with no history or no history of success like Old Dominion, Buffalo, Temple, etc have played in bowl games in recent years. Army and Navy were so uncompetitive two decades ago that many were advocating for them to downgrade to FCS. You have no idea how the team will be 3-4 years from now. Just because UConn would likely get rolled in ONE major buy game a year doesn't mean they should drop out of FBS. What's the difference between them playing Clemson or Holy Cross playing BC? And I highly doubt UConn could not put up competitive games with Wyoming, Duke, Maryland, Fresno State, Syracuse, etc
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Post by Crucis#1 on May 19, 2021 9:21:21 GMT -5
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Post by thecrossisback on May 19, 2021 9:24:27 GMT -5
It's nice to see that you can see into the future. UConn was in the Fiesta Bowl only a decade ago. Schools with no history or no history of success like Old Dominion, Buffalo, Temple, etc have played in bowl games in recent years. Army and Navy were so uncompetitive two decades ago that many were advocating for them to downgrade to FCS. You have no idea how the team will be 3-4 years from now. Just because UConn would likely get rolled in ONE major buy game a year doesn't mean they should drop out of FBS. What's the difference between them playing Clemson or Holy Cross playing BC? And I highly doubt UConn could not put up competitive games with Wyoming, Duke, Maryland, Fresno State, Syracuse, etc Who cares about a Bowl game that nobody watches or cares about? Its' about the Final Four in the FBS and maybe a few other major Bowl Games. Do you watch the NIT tournament? No you watch the NCAA the best tournament to see who is the National Champ. People in Connecticut have this to look forward to. HC, Yale, Wymong, Middle Tennessee, Houston and Purdue who has had a losing record almost every year this decade. Their away games are good. But UConn what have you done for me lately? 2017 3-9 2018 1-11 2019 2-10 2020 No Season Wins were against 2017 Holy Cross, Tusa and Temple 2018 Rhode Island 2019 they beat Wagner and Umass Bravo
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