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Post by trimster on Apr 29, 2021 14:46:53 GMT -5
ESPN is reporting the NCAA has officially approved the new transfer rule for the '21-'22 school year. Not certain how kids in the portal right now are affected. An interesting twist is if you have already transferred once as an undergrad and used your get out of jail free card, you will have to apply for a waiver to be immediately eligible as a grad transfer. I thought one of the reasons for the new rule was to get the NCAA out of the waiver business but maybe an even bigger concern for the NCAA is abuse of this whole graduate transfer thing. Imagine that. The big boys abusing something.
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Post by longsuffering on Apr 29, 2021 20:14:58 GMT -5
ESPN is reporting the NCAA has officially approved the new transfer rule for the '21-'22 school year. Not certain how kids in the portal right now are affected. An interesting twist is if you have already transferred once as an undergrad and used your get out of jail free card, you will have to apply for a waiver to be immediately eligible as a grad transfer. I thought one of the reasons for the new rule was to get the NCAA out of the waiver business but maybe an even bigger concern for the NCAA is abuse of this whole graduate transfer thing. Imagine that. The big boys abusing something. In one way, it might be good to apply the New Hampshire State motto "Live free or Die" to the Portal. Let players and coaches knock themselves out, move hither and yon at will but have to take personal responsibility. The better coaches will adjust and recruit student athletes who fit the school and are given realistic expectations that are reinforced over four years. That way there will be fewer and fewer openings or demand for transfers among the better coached teams and the poorly coached teams will become like bus terminals until the coach adjusts or is replaced. Using this measuring stick Coach Nelson has adjusted and become a better coach. |
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Post by rgs318 on Apr 29, 2021 20:34:53 GMT -5
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Post by Tom on Apr 30, 2021 8:07:16 GMT -5
I think I'm turning into a curmudgeon.
I didn't think they should change the transfer rule and let kids have the "free" transfer. But I don't like this amendment either. Whether or not you have transferred once already or not, I think upon graduation that you have completed your commitment to a school and should be a free agent. In my mind, Austin and Matt aren't transferring, anymore than they transferred from high school to Holy Cross. If they have eligibility left, so be it. Since Gates committed to HC before all these changes came, I have assumed that his academic plan would require three years at HC from either credits not transferred or not enough time to get minimum courses in his chosen major. If he gets his degree next spring, I won't begrudge him the opportunity to move on with his life.
I suppose the other option is that I'm turning into an old person that doesn't like change
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Post by trimster on Apr 30, 2021 8:31:34 GMT -5
I think I'm turning into a curmudgeon. I didn't think they should change the transfer rule and let kids have the "free" transfer. But I don't like this amendment either. Whether or not you have transferred once already or not, I think upon graduation that you have completed your commitment to a school and should be a free agent. In my mind, Austin and Matt aren't transferring, anymore than they transferred from high school to Holy Cross. If they have eligibility left, so be it. Since Gates committed to HC before all these changes came, I have assumed that his academic plan would require three years at HC from either credits not transferred or not enough time to get minimum courses in his chosen major. If he gets his degree next spring, I won't begrudge him the opportunity to move on with his life. I suppose the other option is that I'm turning into an old person that doesn't like change You bring up a good point about Gates. It wouldn’t surprise me if he earns his degree from HC one year from now. Since the new rules go into effect in the fall, I don’t believe he would need a waiver to play immediately as a grad transfer. |
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Post by rgs318 on Apr 30, 2021 8:54:19 GMT -5
I have to agree with those who say that once a player has graduated, he/she should be free to play where they wish if they have any remaining eligibility.
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Post by Tom on Apr 30, 2021 9:04:07 GMT -5
If the new rule goes into affect in the fall, why wouldn't it affect Gates for the 22-23 season if he does that somewhere else as a grad student? Is it because his one free transfer was before the rule?
Actually, the case of Townsel is probably more to point, since as a JuCo the pre-COVID plan was for him to play in 2020-21 and 2021-22. I always assumed that he would graduate in the spring of 2022
Of course this brings up the other question. Does the 2020-21 free transfer year count as the free year under the new policy? If it doesn't, the point is moot. We should find out soon enough when Pridgen and Lowder either dress or sit
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Post by Crucis#1 on Apr 30, 2021 9:23:49 GMT -5
Some change is good, embrace it...e.g, a new video board at Fitton....😊 others, not so much....e.g. our receding hairlines. ☹️
The former we are embracing and are thrilled to see it in operations, the later, we do not want to accept, especially every morning when we look in the mirror.
However change is inevitable.🤔
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Post by breezy on Apr 30, 2021 9:26:02 GMT -5
The old saying still rings true:
The only constant in life is change.
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Post by timholycross on Apr 30, 2021 9:33:55 GMT -5
I have to think a college from where the athlete has graduated and that offers no graduate courses would trigger a waiver immediately. We know of at least one of those, don't we?
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Post by trimster on Apr 30, 2021 10:40:04 GMT -5
If the new rule goes into affect in the fall, why wouldn't it affect Gates for the 22-23 season if he does that somewhere else as a grad student? Is it because his one free transfer was before the rule? Actually, the case of Townsel is probably more to point, since as a JuCo the pre-COVID plan was for him to play in 2020-21 and 2021-22. I always assumed that he would graduate in the spring of 2022 Of course this brings up the other question. Does the 2020-21 free transfer year count as the free year under the new policy? If it doesn't, the point is moot. We should find out soon enough when Pridgen and Lowder either dress or sit I think you answered your own question with sentence two. The new rule takes effect in September so Gates and everyone else on the roster and in all of college athletics for that matter, has one “free transfer.” The twist is that now includes grad transfers as well. |
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Post by trimster on Apr 30, 2021 10:49:52 GMT -5
If the new rule goes into affect in the fall, why wouldn't it affect Gates for the 22-23 season if he does that somewhere else as a grad student? Is it because his one free transfer was before the rule? Actually, the case of Townsel is probably more to point, since as a JuCo the pre-COVID plan was for him to play in 2020-21 and 2021-22. I always assumed that he would graduate in the spring of 2022 Of course this brings up the other question. Does the 2020-21 free transfer year count as the free year under the new policy? If it doesn't, the point is moot. We should find out soon enough when Pridgen and Lowder either dress or sit We will probably find out in November if Gates and Townsend are on track to graduate next year. That assumes the hoops roster remains the same between now and then at lease when it comes to scholarship student-athletes. |
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