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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jun 8, 2021 23:44:09 GMT -5
Walt Hazzard might have been my guess, or perhaps Gail Goodrich who, in fact, came after Hazzard. However Walt Hazzard was the Wizard's second consensus All America player with the first coming many years before Hazzard got the honor in 1964. I was not aware of where this player had gone to college. He went on to the NBA where you'll remember him as a star on your favorite childhood team while I remember him as a role player on mine.
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Post by hchoops on Jun 9, 2021 5:40:30 GMT -5
I looked it up. Not to give it away, but the unnamed player you referred to was Wooden’s second AA at UCLA. The correct answer is someone I had never heard of.
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Post by Crucis#1 on Jun 9, 2021 6:44:45 GMT -5
I looked it up. Not to give it away, but the unnamed player you referred to was Wooden’s second AA at UCLA. The correct answer is someone I had never heard of. Coach Wooden first AA player played for the Knicks and the Celtics. His second AA player played at the same High School as Wilt Chamberlain. Coach Wooden coaching career at UCLA was from 1948 until 1975,
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Post by Xmassader on Jun 9, 2021 7:04:10 GMT -5
Willie Naulls?
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Post by Crucis#1 on Jun 9, 2021 7:22:29 GMT -5
Willie Nauls was an AA in 1956. Coach Wooden’s first.
The year before Coach Wooden started at UCLA, Don Barksdale was UCLA’s first AA in 1947.
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Post by gks on Jun 9, 2021 8:21:14 GMT -5
Yes, but a very big part of college coaching is recruiting--so we shouldn't penalize Coach Wooden for landing Kareem, Walton, et al. By the way-- John Wooden coached 11 consensus All America players. Who can name the first one he coached (without looking it up)? Of course Wooden was a great recruiter....for the second half of his long UCLA tenure. He was able to secure great talent to UCLA. He had four undefeated teams. I don't care what your talent is that's amazing.
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Post by cmo on Jun 9, 2021 9:17:54 GMT -5
I know he’s tough to like but what Calhoun did to bring UConn from where it was when he got there to when he left was pretty amazing. Not saying he’s the best at all but a very impressive career despite being unlikeable in many ways. Besides being unlikeable , he cheated Did Wooden cheat?
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jun 9, 2021 9:38:23 GMT -5
Willie Naulls is the correct answer if you go by what "Sports-Reference" lists as Coach Wooden's 11 consensus All-America players
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Post by hchoops on Jun 9, 2021 9:39:41 GMT -5
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jun 9, 2021 10:30:45 GMT -5
Great story about an amazing athlete unknown to me until this point. My guess is that we was named an All America by one or a few of the many rating services/magazines that named All America players each year. Thus he was not a "consensus" AA player. Here's who Hickok Sports lists for George Stanich's 3 UCLA seasons--with the players near the top of the lists being those who appeared on the most AA teams
1948 Murray Wier, Iowa Ed Macauley, St. Louis Jim McIntyre, Minnesota Kevin O'Shea, Notre Dame Ralph Beard, Kentucky Dick Dickey, North Carolina St. Arnold Ferrin, Utah Alex Groza, Kentucky Harold Haskins, Hamline George Kaftan, Holy Cross Duane Klueh, Indiana St. Tony Lavelli, Yale Jack Nichols, Washington Andy Wolfe, California
1949 Tony Lavelli, Yale Vince Boryla, Denver Ed Macauley, St. Louis Alex Groza, Kentucky Ralph Beard, Kentucky Bill Erickson, Illinois Vern Gardner, Utah Wallace Jones, Kentucky Jim McIntyre, Minnesota Ernie Vandeweghe, Colgate Bob Harris, Oklahoma A&M Slater Martin, Texas
1950 Dick Schnittker, Ohio St. Bob Cousy, Holy Cross Paul Arizin, Villanova Paul Unruh, Bradley Bill Sharman, Southern California Charles Cooper, Duquesne Don Lofgran, San Francisco Kevin O'Shea, Notre Dame Don Rehfeldt, Wisconsin Sherman White, Long Island Sam Ranzino, North Carolina State Harold Haskins, Hamline Don Lofgran, San Francisco Irwin Dambrot, City College of New York John Pilch, Wyoming
NOTE: Stanich high jumped 6 -4 &3/4 for that Bronze medal at the 1964 Olympics
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Post by hchoops on Jun 9, 2021 10:35:56 GMT -5
No Cooz in ‘49 or ‘48 Have to question the source The AP, UPI and Look magazine had Cooz second team in 1949 He was AP third team in 1948
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Post by DFW HOYA on Jun 9, 2021 11:45:01 GMT -5
John Wooden earned three NCAA tournament bids in his first 13 seasons at UCLA.
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Post by timholycross on Jun 9, 2021 13:16:39 GMT -5
Besides being unlikeable , he cheated Did Wooden cheat? Sam Gilbert did for him. In general, save for Rick Pitino at Louisville, the program that's won it all has been, in terms of NCAA probes, untouchable. It's always the other Final Four participants that have gotten replaced in the record book by "vacated".
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Post by possum on Jun 9, 2021 14:03:22 GMT -5
Wooden's record in first 18 years at UCLA 361-135 with two championships. Gilbert came aboard 1966-67 record next 9 years 259-12 with 8 championships. Looks like Wooden's pyramid of success really took off when Gilbert arrived. As far as best coaches at HC no mention of Roy Leenig, 104-48 in six seasons I'd certainly take him over Jack D.
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