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Post by timholycross on Mar 24, 2022 0:00:10 GMT -5
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Post by longsuffering on Mar 24, 2022 1:27:53 GMT -5
Entertaining column. The Holy Cross 1954 NIT championship keeps losing luster with every paragraph and only a year or two after HC raided the CAF and paid fifty bucks for a brand new banner. Oh well. Maybe Boston (TD) Garden will bid on the final four or even the DCU Center.
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Post by timholycross on Mar 24, 2022 6:02:30 GMT -5
I typically forget who won the NIT about a week after it ends.
It was still a great tournament until the NCAA (no complaints about this) started allowing multiple teams from a conference in their tournament. Plenty of strong ACC teams, for example, lost the conference tournament and went to NYC. And some independents liked going to The Apple more than being sent to far flung NCAA opening round venues.
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Post by hchoops on Mar 24, 2022 7:31:27 GMT -5
Al McGuire turned down at least one NCAA bid to play in the NIT, as did Bobby Knight at West Point
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Post by Tom on Mar 24, 2022 8:06:32 GMT -5
Maybe Boston (TD) Garden will bid on the final four or even the DCU Center. Wut? Do you even watch the games? If you did you'd realize that both of these venues are over 50k seats short of meeting NCAA requirements for FF capacity. I think longsuffering was referring to the final four of the NIT which is not returning to Madison Sq Garden. Boston Garden capacity is similar to MSG where the NIT semi's and final have traditionally been played |
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Mar 24, 2022 8:22:44 GMT -5
Yes. My bad. Sorry.
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Post by timholycross on Mar 24, 2022 8:43:37 GMT -5
Not enough local college basketball interest for TD Garden or The Woo to bid on such an event.
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Post by mm67 on Mar 24, 2022 8:53:46 GMT -5
Rotate sites biannually. Arrange a PR blitz Interviews w/coaches, fans . local shop keepers on the media in the NIT week. Build it as a chance to boost the local economy. Alum groups buy tix for their folks.
Advertise it as America's Tournament from the Heartland. Build interest in the earlier rounds with high intensity advertising - breathless interviews with aspiring stars, fans & local merchants. Culminate in NIT Week with televised interviews & celebrations. In other words bogard & BS your way to popularity. Hire Dickie & Bill R as shills. Bring in ESPN and loudmouth Stephen A.
Use big money to raise bigger money and the NIT will grow in stature and popularity. After all, America is the land of Madison Ave, & media, the masses of people fall for it all the time.
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Post by crusader1970 on Mar 24, 2022 9:22:24 GMT -5
Rotate sites biannually. Arrange a PR blitz Interviews w/coaches, fans . local shop keepers on the media in the NIT week. Build it as a chance to boost the local economy. Alum groups buy tix for their folks words Advertise it as America's Tournament from the Heartland. Build interest in the earlier rounds with high intensity advertising - breathless interviews wit aspiring stars, fans & local merchants. Culminate in NIT Week with televised interviews & celebrations. In other words bogard & BS your way to popularity. Hire Dickie & Bill R as shills. Bring in ESPN and loudmouth Stephen A. Use big money to raise bigger money and the NIT will grow in stature and popularity. After all, America is the land of Madison Ave, & media, the masses of people fall for it all the time. There is little doubt that what you propose would work.
However, I'm not sure that CBS and the NCAA would want that much hype around a tourney that takes place at the same time as the Dance and possibly could steal even a little bit of its thunder.
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Post by HC92 on Mar 24, 2022 11:08:10 GMT -5
You can market until you’re blue in the face but very few people are ever going to care about the NIT unless they are fans of one of the teams still playing in that tourney at any given moment in time.
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Post by Tom on Mar 24, 2022 11:33:49 GMT -5
With the NCAA tourney at 68 teams , the NIT feels like a consolation prize.
The semi's include the #7(8-11) from the Big East, the #5 (9-9) from the SEC, and #5 (11-9) from the Big 12. St Bonnie at 12-5 were better than average in their conference. Unless your school is involved, I don't see a lot of excitement about the best teams not good enough to go to the NCAA tourney
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Mar 24, 2022 13:47:40 GMT -5
I'm in 9th place nationally in the ESPN NIT bracket competition! Unless both guys who are below me have banner final rounds I think I'm good for a Top 10 Finish!  |
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Mar 24, 2022 13:56:07 GMT -5
Ill be going to the semis on Tuesday
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Post by hchoops on Mar 24, 2022 14:03:39 GMT -5
I'm in 9th place nationally in the ESPN NIT bracket competition! Unless both guys who are below me have banner final rounds I think I'm good for a Top 10 Finish!  Well done How many participants ? |
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Mar 24, 2022 14:57:07 GMT -5
Looks like it was a poor attempt at humor on my part. I was trying to suggest that I was in 9th but that there were only 11 entrants in the entire nation-wide competition. I don't think there are many, if any. NIT bracket competitions.
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Post by mm67 on Mar 24, 2022 15:11:15 GMT -5
Those who claim the NIT is dead make sense. Maybe, we should have a Mass in white garments followed by a proper burial.
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Post by hc87 on Mar 24, 2022 15:14:38 GMT -5
I played hoop and baseball against Bonnie's coach Mark Schmidt in high school....he is a Bishop Feehan grad. Hit an opposite field double against him once....they trounced us in hoop.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Mar 24, 2022 15:43:57 GMT -5
NIT is 100% dead if it leaves NY. MAYBE you could get away with having it at Barclay's or Prudential. Aside from that, I'd probably put somewhere entertainment-heavy like Vegas, New Orleans or Miami on short list options.
Unless they get lucky with a local team making the semis and final, sites like Frisco or Reno would be a total disaster. No one would go.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Mar 24, 2022 16:36:41 GMT -5
Wut? Do you even watch the games? If you did you'd realize that both of these venues are over 50k seats short of meeting NCAA requirements for FF capacity. I think longsuffering was referring to the final four of the NIT which is not returning to Madison Sq Garden. Boston Garden capacity is similar to MSG where the NIT semi's and final have traditionally been played Between the NCAA Men’s Tournament, UCONN advancing deep year in and year out in the Women’s, and the NCAA Hockey Regionals, I don’t see much room left for casual interest in the Boston area for secondary postseason basketball tournament. You’d need to have UCONN, UMASS, URI or PC in the Final (notice I left out BC). |
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Post by longsuffering on Mar 24, 2022 17:01:41 GMT -5
I think longsuffering was referring to the final four of the NIT which is not returning to Madison Sq Garden. Boston Garden capacity is similar to MSG where the NIT semi's and final have traditionally been played Between the NCAA Men’s Tournament, UCONN advancing deep year in and year out in the Women’s, and the NCAA Hockey Regionals, I don’t see much room left for casual interest in the Boston area for secondary postseason basketball tournament. You’d need to have UCONN, UMASS, URI or PC in the Final (notice I left out BC). That's why the former Colonial Classic did well at Boston Garden in the seventies(?) because it involved New England's best teams. Holy Cross won it at least once. |
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Post by gerry on Mar 25, 2022 5:56:17 GMT -5
UMass could barely draw 1,000 people for their weekend A10 games. I highly doubt an NIT matchup with a middling P6 team from halfway across the country is going to bring people out. While BC doesn't draw well, they do a lot better than UMass, and actually had higher attendance figures than urban ACC teams Georgia Tech (defending ACC tournament champs), and Miami (solid program currently in the Sweet 16). I think longsuffering was referring to the final four of the NIT which is not returning to Madison Sq Garden. Boston Garden capacity is similar to MSG where the NIT semi's and final have traditionally been played Between the NCAA Men’s Tournament, UCONN advancing deep year in and year out in the Women’s, and the NCAA Hockey Regionals, I don’t see much room left for casual interest in the Boston area for secondary postseason basketball tournament. You’d need to have UCONN, UMASS, URI or PC in the Final (notice I left out BC). |
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