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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Apr 3, 2022 7:39:36 GMT -5
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Post by rgs318 on Apr 3, 2022 8:08:48 GMT -5
The good Bishop has long had a dim view of Jesuits and Holy Cross. IMHO he overestimates his ability to dictate and micromanage actions by the two schools (Jesuits in each case). HC stood firm and I hope Nativity does the same. He seems to have very strong opinions about issues related to race and sexuality and some of his "pronouncements" tend to reflect that.
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Post by longsuffering on Apr 3, 2022 8:10:27 GMT -5
The Bishop likes to allude to his big nuclear button like another couple of recent autocrats. Obviously compensation issues. There are 307 comments to the Globe column so far. There should be some doozies in there.
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Post by mm67 on Apr 3, 2022 9:42:54 GMT -5
Boston Globe Paywall block...
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Post by ndgradbuthcfan on Apr 3, 2022 9:54:05 GMT -5
He would have been very useful during the Inquisition, not so much now.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Apr 3, 2022 10:07:13 GMT -5
Here is some more from the article, which was written by a Globe columnist.
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Post by purplehaze on Apr 3, 2022 10:56:25 GMT -5
Does the BLM mission statement still include the goal of removing the nuclear family from American culture ? I have a big problem with that
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Post by mm67 on Apr 3, 2022 10:57:31 GMT -5
Re: His Refusal to Release Names of those Credibly Accused. What is he hiding? Why is he hiding the names? His empty threats against Nativity & HC are puzzling. Possibly his widely known problems with alcohol may explain his strange behavior. If the man needs help - AA or some sort of rehab - he should get it. May God Bless this man & may he get the help he so desperately needs.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Apr 3, 2022 11:04:56 GMT -5
Does the BLM mission statement still include the goal of removing the nuclear family from American culture ? I have a big problem with that Yes. Big difference between Black Lives Matter and black lives matter.
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Post by ndgradbuthcfan on Apr 3, 2022 11:12:08 GMT -5
Does the BLM mission statement still include the goal of removing the nuclear family from American culture ? I have a big problem with that It never did although some have argued otherwise (supra). Read Politifact's explanation.
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Post by mm67 on Apr 3, 2022 11:18:13 GMT -5
I visited the BLM website, a primary source and carefully avoided eBlM & other sites. I could not find any mention of abolishing the family. Possibly I made an error which would not be surprising. Actually, in my intimate connections to many Afro-Americans and other Black themed groups(ex.church) I have only heard about the desire to strengthen the family. I do have problems with some behavior by some BLM protesters which went beyond protest and beyond the type of protests called for by the BLM organization itself. Please provide the BLM site which calls for abolishing the family. A postscript. The ADL has cautioned about widespread disinformation about BLM online
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Post by longsuffering on Apr 3, 2022 11:37:57 GMT -5
Does the BLM mission statement still include the goal of removing the nuclear family from American culture ? I have a big problem with that I just dismiss this notion whenever it appears because there is no logical reason why black people value family any differently than anyone else and I have never witnessed that. The three word slogan means exactly what it says and doesn't involve family issues. It's like "Glory to Ukraine" it doesn't involve any changes to the nuclear family as far as my brain can process.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Apr 3, 2022 11:39:13 GMT -5
The implosion of the diocese of Worcester 2017-2020
Data for CY 2017 / CY 2020 Infant baptisms 1541 / 1258 (a decrease of 18%) First communions 2178 / 1520 (a decrease of 29%) Deaths 3163 / 2557 Parochial school students 6277 / 5083 (a decrease of 19%)
Note: the extent that infant baptisms / first communions were affected by COVID is undetermined.
--------------------------- Number of religious teaching in parochial schools is 35 percent fewer. Number of lay teachers in parochial schools is 25 percent fewer.
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Post by rgs318 on Apr 3, 2022 11:49:58 GMT -5
These stats make it look as though fewer baptisms and communions could have meant fewer deaths. Cou/ld those two sacraments be dangerous to one's health? We need to be careful of trying to draw conclusions from isolated facts. Your point about the covid impact is a good one.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Apr 3, 2022 12:21:34 GMT -5
This was the “What We Believe” section of the BLM website before they were scrutinized for seeking to dismantle / reinvent the nuclear family: uca.edu/training/files/2020/09/black-Lives-Matter-Handout.pdfOf particular note: “ We dismantle the patriarchal practice that requires mothers to work “double shifts” so that they can mother in private even as they participate in public justice work. We disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement by supporting each other as extended families and “villages” that collectively care for one another, especially our children, to the degree that mothers, parents, and children are comfortable” For what it’s worth, the word “father” is never mentioned in their “What We Believe” statement. NY Post article about BLM changing their language after Marcellus Wiley, among others, held their feet to the fire: nypost.com/2020/09/24/blm-removes-website-language-blasting-nuclear-family-structure/
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Post by longsuffering on Apr 3, 2022 12:35:29 GMT -5
Glad that socialist crap didn't survive a little sunlight and Marcellus Wiley. Who lives in a village after all? Families.
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Post by mm67 on Apr 3, 2022 12:59:34 GMT -5
Nuclear family vs. Extended family. Don't see a problem, do you? What is the problem? Actually, the extended family with parents, grandparents , aunts & uncles would provide the love more in keeping with Catholic tradition. It strengthens and reinforces family ties.Those of us who have been raised in a family with grandma' understand The nuclear family father, mother & kids has been criticized especially when mom & dad both have to work. Your inference that BLM is opposed to families is misleading. Rupert Murdoch's NY Post is not a source. But, it has the best sports section in NY. Time to move on. Peace.
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Post by hcpride on Apr 3, 2022 14:06:30 GMT -5
Does the BLM mission statement still include the goal of removing the nuclear family from American culture ? I have a big problem with that Just because the motto "Black Lives Matter" first emerged following the shooting of Trayvon Martin by a Hispanic civilian (who was declared 'not guilty' at trial) , and then gained prominence following the completely justified shooting of Michael Brown in Ferguson by a white policeman doesn't mean the group's thinking is hopelessly muddled when it comes to fundraising. While other organizations may be much more concerned regarding the wholesale shooting of young black men (by other young black men) in our cities, BLM does have its radical chic niche. Not to mention cool T-shirts and stuff.
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Post by ndgradbuthcfan on Apr 3, 2022 14:13:06 GMT -5
So some here think the Bishop is a jerk (moi) while some support his stance and then there are some who are going off on an entirely different track altogether.
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Post by mm67 on Apr 3, 2022 14:29:08 GMT -5
Getting off into the political. We all know where we stand, preordained before the current kerfuffle. Disagreed in the past and disagree currently based on prior views. No-one is going to convince anyone. Urge we all move on. Maybe, we could move to more enjoyable topics such as BN.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Apr 3, 2022 14:36:29 GMT -5
These stats make it look as though fewer baptisms and communions could have meant fewer deaths. Cou/ld those two sacraments be dangerous to one's health? We need to be careful of trying to draw conclusions from isolated facts. Your point about the covid impact is a good one. For Worcester County, in 2019, the number of births was 8,491. Assuming similar for 2020, only 15 percent of babies born in Worcester County in 2020 were baptized The drop in deaths is probably due to families not conducting a service during COVID. I'm fairly certain the death statistic represents a church service. For Worcester County MA,, for the period Jan 26, 2020 through Feb 28, 2021,The number of expected deaths was 7741. The number of observed deaths was 8260. (The number of COVID deaths over this period was 1221. For reasons I don't understand, the number of COVID deaths far exceeded the number of excess deaths (observed deaths - expected deaths = excess deaths. Massachusetts is unique among all states in this regard.) In 2020, 34.1 percent of the population within the diocese of Worcester was categorized as Catholic. This number is highly suspect, as the percentage who were Catholic in 2014 was 48.6 percent, and it was 51.3 percent Catholic in 2003. Elderly deaths are more likely to be of individuals who remained faithful (to some extent, at least) to the R.C. church. www.catholic-hierarchy.org/diocese/dworc.html
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Post by longsuffering on Apr 3, 2022 15:31:30 GMT -5
These stats make it look as though fewer baptisms and communions could have meant fewer deaths. Cou/ld those two sacraments be dangerous to one's health? We need to be careful of trying to draw conclusions from isolated facts. Your point about the covid impact is a good one. For Worcester County, in 2019, the number of births was 8,491. Assuming similar for 2020, only 15 percent of babies born in Worcester County in 2020 were baptized The drop in deaths is probably due to families not conducting a service during COVID. I'm fairly certain the death statistic represents a church service. For Worcester County MA,, for the period Jan 26, 2020 through Feb 28, 2021,The number of expected deaths was 7741. The number of observed deaths was 8260. (The number of COVID deaths over this period was 1221. For reasons I don't understand, the number of COVID deaths far exceeded the number of excess deaths (observed deaths - expected deaths = excess deaths. Massachusetts is unique among all states in this regard.) In 2020, 34.1 percent of the population within the diocese of Worcester was categorized as Catholic. This number is highly suspect, as the percentage who were Catholic in 2014 was 48.6 percent, and it was 51.3 percent Catholic in 2003. Elderly deaths are more likely to be of individuals who remained faithful (to some extent, at least) to the R.C. church. www.catholic-hierarchy.org/diocese/dworc.html Many of the people dying of Covid were so old and/or infirm (Covid came for the most vulnerable first, sweeping through nursing homes, etc.) they had an elevated chance of dying during that year so they make up a decent percentage of the expected deaths, thus there isn't an unexplainable discrepancy. I think.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Apr 4, 2022 8:18:50 GMT -5
For Worcester County, in 2019, the number of births was 8,491. Assuming similar for 2020, only 15 percent of babies born in Worcester County in 2020 were baptized The drop in deaths is probably due to families not conducting a service during COVID. I'm fairly certain the death statistic represents a church service. For Worcester County MA,, for the period Jan 26, 2020 through Feb 28, 2021,The number of expected deaths was 7741. The number of observed deaths was 8260. (The number of COVID deaths over this period was 1221. For reasons I don't understand, the number of COVID deaths far exceeded the number of excess deaths (observed deaths - expected deaths = excess deaths. Massachusetts is unique among all states in this regard.) In 2020, 34.1 percent of the population within the diocese of Worcester was categorized as Catholic. This number is highly suspect, as the percentage who were Catholic in 2014 was 48.6 percent, and it was 51.3 percent Catholic in 2003. Elderly deaths are more likely to be of individuals who remained faithful (to some extent, at least) to the R.C. church. www.catholic-hierarchy.org/diocese/dworc.html Many of the people dying of Covid were so old and/or infirm (Covid came for the most vulnerable first, sweeping through nursing homes, etc.) they had an elevated chance of dying during that year so they make up a decent percentage of the expected deaths, thus there isn't an unexplainable discrepancy. I think. After some further thought, I have two possible explanations for why COVID deaths exceeded the number of excess deaths. 1.) the number of expected deaths was fewer than the models projected, e.g., less driving, fewer fatalities from accidents; substantially fewer influenza cases resulted in fewer flu deaths. As the actual baseline of expected deaths was lower, this had the effect of lowering the excess death count as well. . 2.) Massachusetts recently re-defined what was a COVID death, resulting, IIRC, in about 2,000 fewer deaths being attributed to COVID state-wide. This re-calibration occurred after the study was published.
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Post by higheredguy on Apr 6, 2022 14:39:46 GMT -5
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Post by hchoops on Apr 6, 2022 15:21:16 GMT -5
Students, faculty and staff.
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