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Post by longsuffering on Oct 9, 2022 15:16:29 GMT -5
The novelty may be over but the match-up may have been part of the reason for that number. Let's see if there is any long-term impact on town/gown relations for Worcester and Holy Cross. It makes me wonder how long until opponents do not want to play at Polar Park? Interesting thought. Merrimack, Bryant or Stonehill might like to play there as Polar has received widespread publicity in the region. I'd like to see HC try to get one of those schools with smaller stadiums to use Polar Park as a home game as an incentive for them to play HC, improve their SOS and provide a fundraising opportunity to host their good supporters at a unique venue. Then HC could still have five games at Fitton. HC could point to the Instutional advancement benefit for HC of the game at Yankee Stadium despite the trouncing in the outfield. |
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Post by sader1970 on Oct 9, 2022 15:46:48 GMT -5
I've been to both EBW games at Polar Park. Really nice accommodations in that the place is still new, bathrooms are clean (men's anyway, and assume ladies room the same), the concessions are much more expansive than Fitton, and we've had 2 blowout wins at Polar Park.
All that said, I still prefer Fitton. Parking is less expensive, unless like some, one can park very close to the ballpark free on the street because they know the right people [yeah, I could have used the "I know a guy" but even I'm tired of that saying]. The tickets are less expensive and, for me anyway, getting to the campus is easier than Polar. Most importantly, the viewing is a lot better at Fitton being that it was built for football while Polar was not.
But, I recognize that an "annual classic" means we'll be playing there every year and I think I understand the bigger picture and the reason why we play there. But, as I've told some here at the game, I made a suggestion about ticketing to the Athletic powers that be at Holy Cross. Last year, the EBW game was NOT included in the season ticket package. If you wanted to go (and a sell out crowd did), you bought your ticket separately and you could pick where you wanted to sit. This year, you get your season ticket and the WooSox told you where you were going to sit. Last season's tickets in the PC seats were better but much more expensive, of course. I had no intention of paying the $30 - $35 season ticket price for the EBW, getting a not-very-good- seat and then paying another $65 +/- to sit in a better PC seat where I sat last year.
So, I made a suggestion to HC that they NOT include the EBW game in next year's season package, like last season. If I don't want to go or go sit in the PC seats or pick some other section to sit in, let me have that choice.
I suspect both WooSox and HC prefer this season's way of dealing with it to ensure more attendees (paid anyway).
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Post by longsuffering on Oct 9, 2022 17:07:30 GMT -5
Maybe Lafayette gets mauled by the Polar Bear next year. Colgate probably doesn't want to become the biannual picnic basket.
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Post by efg72 on Oct 9, 2022 17:20:41 GMT -5
Georgetown has some appeal given EBW involvement and commitments to the school
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Post by longsuffering on Oct 9, 2022 17:30:41 GMT -5
Good point. Unfortunately the GU FB team will likely get caught in a pickle on the basepaths.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Oct 9, 2022 17:35:52 GMT -5
The shared sideline is why only PL opponents will likely be suckered into a game at Polar Park. Bucknell had to stash substitutes on the non-used sideline (opposite the HC share of the sideline) to allow for red-zone substitutions without the players having to run 50 yards. Totally ridiculous. Phreek, Love ya man but between Fenway Park and Wrigley Field plenty of schools have played with similar set-ups in the last 10 years including Norte Dame playing a home game at Fenway vs. BC, Northwestern has played Illinois & Purdue and was scheduled to play Wisconsin in the COVID year at Wrigley. The fact that the 2 games at Polar have been against PL teams is more a factor of the calendar than teams agreeing to play under this configuration. A game will not be played there before the end of the Woo Sox season plus a week or 2 to convert the field from baseball to football. By that time PL play is well underway. So you unless a team is willing to switch a league game to earlier in the season, it is far more likely a PL opponent will be played at Polar Park. Seeing that Bucknell had players on the non-team sideline during the game, the only reason for not using both sidelines is that this blocks the view of the lowest several rows of seats on the third base side. --------------------- Kit has said more than once that today's fan is looking for an 'experience', something more than just the game itself. E.g., the four hour tailgates. Put a big videoboard at centerfield at Hanover Park, and charge $150 a tailgate, and it would be a sellout. In fact, the fan experience at Hanover Park is far better than the fan experience at Fitton. And Kit has mentioned that one of the design options for a reconfigured rink is to offer more amenities. Perhaps if they were to blow out the north wall of the rink, they could create space for amenities for both hoops and hockey. |
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Oct 9, 2022 17:43:48 GMT -5
Georgetown has some appeal given EBW involvement and commitments to the school Agnes matched her very generous bequest to HC with an identically sized bequest to Georgetown Law. This will endow 20 professorships if memory serves. These are all named the Agnes Williams Sesquicentennial Professorship. (Agnes graduated from Georgetown Law, class of '54.). |
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Post by efg72 on Oct 9, 2022 17:50:17 GMT -5
At the time I wondered how that equal distribution?? was received, as there was a rumor or two
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Oct 9, 2022 18:10:26 GMT -5
To keep the interest in the Polar Park games, the opponent needs to an Ivy or a "name" school. Not a pL tomato can very few care about that loses by 8 TDs.
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Post by gks on Oct 9, 2022 19:49:44 GMT -5
The shared sideline is why only PL opponents will likely be suckered into a game at Polar Park. Bucknell had to stash substitutes on the non-used sideline (opposite the HC share of the sideline) to allow for red-zone substitutions without the players having to run 50 yards. Totally ridiculous. If you paid attention to either Polar Park game this is an agreement between teams when the play is at the far end away from their benches to allow for timely substitutions. Never saw HC have to do it because Bucknell is awful. The process took about 15 seconds. Stop complaining. |
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Post by gks on Oct 9, 2022 19:59:19 GMT -5
As someone said before....can't play at Polar Park until after WooSox Season. This year their last home game was the last Sunday in September. Takes about a week to prep the field.
What would Bucknell have drawn to Fitton...4K? 5K? They are as anonymous an opponent as you can get.
As long as HC is a wagon you'll get nothing but PL tomato cans since that's what the rest of the league is right now.
Enjoy it. It's here to stay for awhile.
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Post by hchoops on Oct 9, 2022 20:14:18 GMT -5
As someone said before....can't play at Polar Park until after WooSox Season. This year their last home game was the last Sunday in September. Takes about a week to prep the field. What would Bucknell have drawn to Fitton...4K? 5K? They are as anonymous an opponent as you can get. As long as HC is a wagon you'll get nothing but PL tomato cans since that's what the rest of the league is right now. Fordham is not a tomato can. |
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Post by rgs318 on Oct 9, 2022 20:21:36 GMT -5
I think the crowd we will see when Fordham comes to town in 3 weeks will certainly show you are correct.
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Post by Bob Saccamano on Oct 9, 2022 20:47:40 GMT -5
The shared sideline is why only PL opponents will likely be suckered into a game at Polar Park. Bucknell had to stash substitutes on the non-used sideline (opposite the HC share of the sideline) to allow for red-zone substitutions without the players having to run 50 yards. Totally ridiculous. Holy Cross had to do the same against Colgate last year too....Bucknell just sucked so bad, it didn't come into play I guess. |
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Post by cruskater31 on Oct 9, 2022 21:28:12 GMT -5
Looking forward to the Fordham game but I think our D should be able to give Fordham their first real test of the season. Get pressure on DeMorat and win by 2 scores.
Laffy first. Our punt blocks might come into play
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Oct 10, 2022 7:55:50 GMT -5
Franklin Pierce @ Assumption @ Polar Park yesterday. Announced attendance: 0. The WooSox were in charge of selling and collecting tickets. $5 general admission; $10 walk-up price. From several Twitter posts of the game, looks to have been fair attendance. -------------------------------- How much revenue does HC get for playing at Polar Park? Anyone have an idea? Is it a flat guarantee, or does HC get a percentage of ticket and concession sales? |
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Post by sader1970 on Oct 10, 2022 8:12:40 GMT -5
No idea but unless you know someone special at HC, I don’t think they will willing divulge that information.
I sure hope we aren’t paying for the privilege!
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Post by rgs318 on Oct 10, 2022 8:38:30 GMT -5
Did Assumption play with the giant HC shield in the middle of the field?
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Oct 10, 2022 9:12:36 GMT -5
Did Assumption play with the giant HC shield in the middle of the field? There are only 3-4 images of the game posted on-line, and no sign of the shield in these images. But the sample size is too small. Spectrum has no report on the game. Another view of attendance. |
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Oct 10, 2022 9:24:40 GMT -5
Did Assumption play with the giant HC shield in the middle of the field?  High school game played after the Assumption game. Logo at midfield. |
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Post by thecrossisback on Oct 10, 2022 10:04:07 GMT -5
Did Assumption play with the giant HC shield in the middle of the field? High school game played after the Assumption game. Logo at midfield. Lets go! I was at that game big win for Worcester Tech! (Old Worcester Voke) (Old Boys Trade) |
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Post by HCFC45 on Oct 10, 2022 10:41:31 GMT -5
Face it.... the game at PP is an "EVENT". Yes, I would much rather watch a football game at Fitton. However, the concessions are way superior than some food trucks! Coney Island hot dogs at $4 are a real bargain compared to a Sam Adam's draft at $13...
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Post by hchoops on Oct 10, 2022 10:48:55 GMT -5
With PP
availability and our schedule it is almost certain that this annual game will always have a PL opponent.
Thus except for Fordham, at least until Demorat leaves, this all but guarantees a weak to very weak opponent each season
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Post by longsuffering on Oct 10, 2022 10:49:14 GMT -5
Franklin Pierce, just over the State line in NH, must have brought more fans to Polar than Bucknell or Colgate. Smart scheduling by the Hounds. Does Merrimack get to Polar first to play Assumption or HC? Or do the Warriors now insist all games against D-2 opponents be at their little stadium?
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Oct 10, 2022 11:00:47 GMT -5
With PP availability and our schedule it is almost certain that this annual game will always have a PL opponent. Thus except for Fordham, at least until Demorat leaves, this all but guarantees a weak to very weak opponent each season Lehigh and Colgate aren't going to stink forever. And at least Colgate is a longtime traditional football rival. I'm starting to think like ACTP though that in order for the PP game to continue to have "juice", trying to find a way to schedule a Dartmouth, Brown, UNH in October for this game would be the right approach marketing-wise. Even Merrimack, they'd bring fans for sure. |
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