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Post by hchoops on Oct 10, 2022 11:06:38 GMT -5
We do not control the PL schedule. Many/most Non league games are scheduled years in advance Do we really have many/ any options for this game ?! If someone has next year’s schedule, we could speculate
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Post by longsuffering on Oct 10, 2022 11:18:37 GMT -5
With PP availability and our schedule it is almost certain that this annual game will always have a PL opponent. Thus except for Fordham, at least until Demorat leaves, this all but guarantees a weak to very weak opponent each season Lehigh and Colgate aren't going to stink forever. And at least Colgate is a longtime traditional football rival. I'm starting to think like ACTP though that in order for the PP game to continue to have "juice", trying to find a way to schedule a Dartmouth, Brown, UNH in October for this game would be the right approach marketing-wise. Even Merrimack, they'd bring fans for sure. Merrimack brought a boatload of fans to Harvard Stadium for a Friday night game.
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Post by efg72 on Oct 10, 2022 11:23:28 GMT -5
Prefer not playing Merrimack in the future Not exactly the cleanest team
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Post by hc87 on Oct 10, 2022 11:28:40 GMT -5
I like the idea of foregoing our "home" status at PP for a game with Merrimack, Bryant et al and keeping 5 games at Fitton but I'm thinking that's probably not doable contractually but who knows? Here is the partial 2023 sked as of now per the FBS/FCS future schedule website: fbschedules.com/2023-holy-cross-football-schedule/
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Oct 10, 2022 11:35:57 GMT -5
The reason I went looking for the attendance at Assumption's game was to see how many fans would attend a Sunday noon game at Polar Park, and which overlapped the Pat's game. Both the Assumption and Franklin Pierce box-scores gave the attendance as zero.
From the several images of the game, would not be surprised if there were not 5,000 there, --could easily have been more. Don't know why Polar Park didn't provide the attendance number. What would it say about Holy Cross (albeit HC playing on a date during Fall break) if Assumption's attendance was 8,000?
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Post by DFW HOYA on Oct 10, 2022 11:41:02 GMT -5
I like the idea of foregoing our "home" status at PP for a game with Merrimack, Bryant et al and keeping 5 games at Fitton but I'm thinking that's probably not doable contractually but who knows? Here is the partial 2023 sked as of now per the FBS/FCS future schedule website: fbschedules.com/2023-holy-cross-football-schedule/It appears Lafayette is the presumptive favorite for 2023.
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Post by hchoops on Oct 10, 2022 11:43:24 GMT -5
I like the idea of foregoing our "home" status at PP for a game with Merrimack, Bryant et al and keeping 5 games at Fitton but I'm thinking that's probably not doable contractually but who knows? Here is the partial 2023 sked as of now per the FBS/FCS future schedule website: fbschedules.com/2023-holy-cross-football-schedule/Only a partial schedule, but of these games, only possible PP game would be Lafayette on Oct 21
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Post by purplehaze on Oct 10, 2022 12:02:48 GMT -5
I am sure there are more games under contract for next season and a more complete schedule must be available somewhere. I think we can hope for 6 home games in 2024 and 2025 as there is an extra weekend between Labor Day and Thanksgiving which permits a 12th game for FCS
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Post by rgs318 on Oct 10, 2022 12:04:01 GMT -5
That might be a good game for attendance if the Pards bring some fans and our locals continue to increase.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Oct 10, 2022 12:33:50 GMT -5
From the several images of the game, would not be surprised if there were not 5,000 there, --could easily have been more. Don't know why Polar Park didn't provide the attendance number. What would it say about Holy Cross (albeit HC playing on a date during Fall break) if Assumption's attendance was 8,000? I'd want to look at a few factors here: Assumption as a school / program: They have 39 kids on their roster from Mass. HC have 14. But, more than that, I have to imagine Assumption has many, many more kids who are from Worcester than HC does. That's going to draw them and their families more than HC. Opponent: Franklin Pierce has 31 kids from Mass. on their roster. Plus, the school is less than an hour drive from Worcester. Compared to Bucknell who probably accounted for, what, 100 people at the game? If that? Game time: Sunday at 12:00 actually might be a more convenient time for people to go to this game than Saturday at 4:00.
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Post by cmo on Oct 10, 2022 12:39:05 GMT -5
The reason I went looking for the attendance at Assumption's game was to see how many fans would attend a Sunday noon game at Polar Park, and which overlapped the Pat's game. Both the Assumption and Franklin Pierce box-scores gave the attendance as zero. From the several images of the game, would not be surprised if there were not 5,000 there, --could easily have been more. Don't know why Polar Park didn't provide the attendance number. What would it say about Holy Cross (albeit HC playing on a date during Fall break) if Assumption's attendance was 8,000? What do you want it to say ?
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Post by hcpride on Oct 10, 2022 12:41:56 GMT -5
I like the idea of foregoing our "home" status at PP for a game with Merrimack, Bryant et al and keeping 5 games at Fitton but I'm thinking that's probably not doable contractually but who knows? Here is the partial 2023 sked as of now per the FBS/FCS future schedule website: fbschedules.com/2023-holy-cross-football-schedule/It appears Lafayette is the presumptive favorite for 2023. Laffy has about as many fans/alums in the Worcester area as Bucknell. Which is to say, zero. And zero sense of a football rivalry with HC. Like Bucknell. And, like Bucknell, unlikely to showcase a competitive Polar Park football game. Good luck in pursuit of a sellout.
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Post by hchoops on Oct 10, 2022 12:51:46 GMT -5
Demorat gets the Demorat OPoW Conway gets the Fordham DPoW Sluka, Bolden and Haskins get the HM crumbs from the Fordham table
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Post by lou on Oct 10, 2022 12:54:47 GMT -5
Demorat gets the Demorat OPoW Conway gets the Fordham DPoW Sluka, Bolden and Haskins get the HM crumbs from the Fordham table PL pretending Fordham has a defense
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Post by JRGNYR on Oct 10, 2022 12:59:03 GMT -5
Demorat gets the Demorat OPoW Conway gets the Fordham DPoW Sluka, Bolden and Haskins get the HM crumbs from the Fordham table You can't argue the #s DeMorat is putting up. That said, there's still too much attention paid by some to weekly awards. Weekly awards aren't going to win or lose the game on the 29th.
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Post by football44 on Oct 10, 2022 13:18:53 GMT -5
Demorat gets the Demorat OPoW Conway gets the Fordham DPoW Sluka, Bolden and Haskins get the HM crumbs from the Fordham table You can't argue the #s DeMorat is putting up. That said, there's still too much attention paid by some to weekly awards. Weekly awards aren't going to win or lose the game on the 29th. Let me put in my two cents on the DeMorat kid. Joe Namath he's not. Every team he's played against has sat back and let him fire away on them. He's not very mobile. When he comes to Worcester Coach James will have a very aggressive defensive package that will have him running for his life. That has been the case the last 3 losses he has against the Crusaders. The Fordham defense will be challenged by Sluka and our talented offense. This is a more experienced HC offense than Fordham has seen. If we go into the game 7-0 you can believe Coach Chesney will have the team breathing fire coming out of the locker room. Just a few thoughts.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Oct 10, 2022 13:23:21 GMT -5
The reason I went looking for the attendance at Assumption's game was to see how many fans would attend a Sunday noon game at Polar Park, and which overlapped the Pat's game. Both the Assumption and Franklin Pierce box-scores gave the attendance as zero. From the several images of the game, would not be surprised if there were not 5,000 there, --could easily have been more. Don't know why Polar Park didn't provide the attendance number. What would it say about Holy Cross (albeit HC playing on a date during Fall break) if Assumption's attendance was 8,000? What do you want it to say ? I thought they might get 2,000-2,500. I just now looked at attendance at Assumption's only other home game to date, Sept 3 against then #13 Kutztown State, which Assumption won 3-0. Attendance was 1823. Assuming Sunday's attendance was much better, then I think some of the credit should be given to Polar Park as the venue, The 'experience' overcomes the poor sight lines for many of the seats,.
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Post by sader1970 on Oct 10, 2022 13:36:48 GMT -5
Meh.
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Oct 10, 2022 13:39:59 GMT -5
HC at Merrimack drew quite a bit more than Assumption at Merrimack, didn't it?
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Post by hcgrad94 on Oct 10, 2022 14:44:11 GMT -5
Coaches and players seem to love it.
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Post by longsuffering on Oct 10, 2022 15:13:49 GMT -5
HC at Merrimack drew quite a bit more than Assumption at Merrimack, didn't it? HC: 8147 Assumption: 5675 Fire Marshall: a nice bottle of scotch. Only kidding about the Fire Marshall. The listed capacity of Duane Stadium is 3500 but there didn't appear to be any safety Hazzard from the large enthusiastic crowd when watching on ESPN+. The Warriors are on fire. They are rocking a three game winning streak and have only lost to two ranked teams, one of them on the road in overtime. Why can't we get teams like that in the PL?
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Post by HC92 on Oct 10, 2022 15:16:34 GMT -5
From the several images of the game, would not be surprised if there were not 5,000 there, --could easily have been more. Don't know why Polar Park didn't provide the attendance number. What would it say about Holy Cross (albeit HC playing on a date during Fall break) if Assumption's attendance was 8,000? I'd want to look at a few factors here: Assumption as a school / program: They have 39 kids on their roster from Mass. HC have 14. But, more than that, I have to imagine Assumption has many, many more kids who are from Worcester than HC does. That's going to draw them and their families more than HC. Opponent: Franklin Pierce has 31 kids from Mass. on their roster. Plus, the school is less than an hour drive from Worcester. Compared to Bucknell who probably accounted for, what, 100 people at the game? If that? Game time: Sunday at 12:00 actually might be a more convenient time for people to go to this game than Saturday at 4:00. General Admissions tickets only. $5 in advance. $10 at gate.
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Post by midwestsader05 on Oct 10, 2022 15:17:03 GMT -5
You can't argue the #s DeMorat is putting up. That said, there's still too much attention paid by some to weekly awards. Weekly awards aren't going to win or lose the game on the 29th. Let me put in my two cents on the DeMorat kid. Joe Namath he's not. Every team he's played against has sat back and let him fire away on them. He's not very mobile. When he comes to Worcester Coach James will have a very aggressive defensive package that will have him running for his life. That has been the case the last 3 losses he has against the Crusaders. The Fordham defense will be challenged by Sluka and our talented offense. This is a more experienced HC offense than Fordham has seen. If we go into the game 7-0 you can believe Coach Chesney will have the team breathing fire coming out of the locker room. Just a few thoughts. I agree and disagree 44. Agree in that DeMorat has heavy feet and I think this will hurt his NFL chances (not to say he won’t be on the cusp of a 53 man roster and/or practice squad) Disagree in that teams are just “sitting back and letting him fire away.” Teams are bringing pressure, just not getting to him in time. He has a deep WR core and checks to his man coverage or finds soft areas in zone D’s quickly (has 4 WRs that can all get open and have good situational awareness). Throws an amazingly accurate deep ball. Fordham OL has been good enough to get him those 3-4 seconds he needs. HC did not stop him or really even slow him down in Spring 21 or 1H of Fall 21. Two things changed the outcome, Sluka played lights out in both games and Liam Anderson hurt DeMorat on a blitz early in the 3rd quarter. He was noticeably injured (looked like his throwing hand) and was not the same player the rest of the game. We will need to get pressure or both teams will score in 40’s. Our blitzing LBs will be the key to the game. If they can get some hurries, some QBHs, sacks etc…. We will win. If not, we all will need a few more beers mid way through the 4th cause it’s gonna be close at the wire.
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Post by trimster on Oct 10, 2022 15:19:12 GMT -5
It appears Lafayette is the presumptive favorite for 2023. Laffy has about as many fans/alums in the Worcester area as Bucknell. Which is to say, zero. And zero sense of a football rivalry with HC. Like Bucknell. And, like Bucknell, unlikely to showcase a competitive Polar Park football game. Good luck in pursuit of a sellout. I couldn't agree more with your thoughts. I would add Lehigh to what you said as well.
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Post by efg72 on Oct 10, 2022 15:35:06 GMT -5
Lets’s hold off on the Rams conversation until After Laffy
Time to find ways to put another 50 on the board
Then go to the next game
We might be down a spot in the polls by getting next week off as others win and move up
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