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Post by mm67 on Nov 13, 2022 11:16:37 GMT -5
Thought the pro HC earnestness of the announcers was over the top. Tired of their repetitive use of the word "great." Obviously, videocasts abhor the vacuum of silence. They had to say something. But, their wide ranging stories on everything from Chesney's dad to Halloween distracted from the flow of the game. At least they did not "swallow the mic." The analysis itself was decent for HC fans. Bryant was not given its due. The announcers are well meaning good guys. Bill Stern? Ray Scott? Curt Gowdy? & others? Nah. Certainly I'm looking forward to their announcing other games next year for another undefeated HC football juggernaut. Eventually, I turned off the volume so that I could focus on the game, itself.
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Post by sader1970 on Nov 13, 2022 11:34:05 GMT -5
Time to give a well deserved shout out to Peter Oliver. And, yes, thanks to Covid and aging, I did forget he has played 5 seasons and therefore he has to move on to other pastures after this season. But, for those who were neither at the game in person or saw the game on ESPN+, his two TDs were the best I can remember him ever getting, so watch this clip: goholycross.com/watch/?Archive=1036&type=ArchiveAnd just for grins and giggles, I did have a short chat with our punter Patrick Haughney before the game and told him, "Pat, I know you are from Jersey but Bryant is from RI, so be sure to win today." His response, "we got this, don't worry." My rebuttal: "I'm sitting in the stands and have no control of the results, so all I can do is worry. You're on the field, let me do the worrying and you take care of business on the field." So, what does he do? He proceeds to punt 8 yards! In fairness, against a very strong wind (that helps Derek Ng kick his record setting 52 yard field goal when we are going in the opposite direction). Pat makes up for his 8 yarder when we go in the opposite direction and kicks a beautiful 63 yarder with a perfect spiral. FWIW, Bryant is a much better team than their record would indicate.
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Post by timholycross on Nov 13, 2022 11:40:25 GMT -5
What was this D3 game in NYC that drew 39,000? I have to assume this is a joke. Ithaca vs SUNY Courtland played yesterday at Yankee Stadium in front of 40,000 plus. Who knew? Credit belongs to the alumni organizations of each school that talked the game up and got that sort of crowd. Combined enrollment of the schools is around 10,000. That outdrew HC vs Fordham a few years ago, didn't it? Only 21K; disgraceful given Fordham is right down the street and had a good team. But not Lehigh/Lafayette; that was a sellout.
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Post by timholycross on Nov 13, 2022 11:44:30 GMT -5
If I was coaching against us this year, I think this is the path I would follow. Other than Fordham which did whatever they wanted against us, the passing seems dramatically more effective for our opponents than the running. “I think they committed to strictly the pass game (in the second half),” Holy Cross coach Bob Chesney said. “In the first half, they tried to be more balanced. In the second half, they said, ‘We’re going to throw the ball over and over and over again.’” I wonder if Chesney gave any thought to the defense he was playing against Fordham once they got rolling. Once their mini back got knocked out of the game (remember Randy Trivers, anyone?) they did not have much of a ground game. Maybe against Bryant that would have worked better. One thing that actually hurt HC was that their run defense was so weak in the second half; HC scored too quickly. Would have loved an extra first down or two to kill more clock and give the D a longer rest.
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Post by cruskater31 on Nov 13, 2022 11:49:16 GMT -5
One of the things that I don't believe has been given enough credit here is the number of the incredible catches made by the Bryant receivers. While they certainly had more wide open receivers than I care to remember, many of their catches were made with a HC defensive back draped all over them. Their QB is very good. I thought the performance of their receivers was even more impressive. #5 and a couple of their receivers were big boys. They easily went up to come down with throws. I give credit to their QB for putting balls in positions where only they could come down with them. I think our DB's have difficulty when they a safety is going to come down to cover a slot guy, etc. I loved our run game yesterday and against a good Lehigh front. What concerns me a bit, is the 4 sacks. They seemed to contain Sluka pretty well from the outside and an A gap. They tackled well. Sluka couldn't slither out of a tackle. Speaking of tackles, some of our LB's and DB's missed tackles on first contact within 5 yards of the line.
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Post by hchoops on Nov 13, 2022 11:49:20 GMT -5
Ithaca vs SUNY Courtland played yesterday at Yankee Stadium in front of 40,000 plus. Who knew? Credit belongs to the alumni organizations of each school that talked the game up and got that sort of crowd. Combined enrollment of the schools is around 10,000. That outdrew HC vs Fordham a few years ago, didn't it? Only 21K; disgraceful given Fordham is right down the street and had a good team. Whatever city wide support Fordham football had (. 7 blocks of granite) was lost when they dropped football in the late 50s. I attended a Fordham game (vs HC ?) in the mid 50s at the Polo Grounds.
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Post by timholycross on Nov 13, 2022 11:49:21 GMT -5
One of the things that I don't believe has been given enough credit here is the number of the incredible catches made by the Bryant receivers. While they certainly had more wide open receivers than I care to remember, many of their catches were made with a HC defensive back draped all over them. Their QB is very good. I thought the performance of their receivers was even more impressive. Yes, it was different from previous games where the pass D had problems. Our guys looked a lot more athletic. Does anyone know the Offensive Pass Interference rule; does it not apply if the receiver is still on the line of scrimmage? That second TD pass to the tight end, our guy was wiped out by a blocker before the guy even caught the ball. Anyone could have scored on that play.
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Post by gks on Nov 13, 2022 12:00:03 GMT -5
Thought the pro HC earnestness of the announcers was over the top. Tired of their repetitive use of the word "great." Obviously, videocasts abhor the vacuum of silence. They had to say something. But, their wide ranging stories on everything from Chesney's dad to Halloween distracted from the flow of the game. At least they did not "swallow the mic." The analysis itself was decent for HC fans. Bryant was not given its due. The announcers are well meaning good guys. Bill Stern? Ray Scott? Curt Gowdy? & others? Nah. Certainly I'm looking forward to their announcing other games next year for another undefeated HC football juggernaut. Eventually, I turned off the volume so that I could focus on the game, itself. You do realize that this was a Holy Cross paid for/produced broadcast right? If Curt Gowdy was paid by Holy Cross he'd be talking about Chesney's dad too.
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Post by hc87 on Nov 13, 2022 12:03:46 GMT -5
Classic game of tale of 2 halves. We had opportunities to put this away but seemed to continually shoot ourselves in the foot offensively as well as breaking down defensively. Troubling lack of a pass rush is putting pressure on our secondary. As we've stated here, D injuries this year and graduation losses on the D-line have really hampered our D overall.
Bryant overall was probably the best team we played after Buffalo, Yale, Harvard and Fordham.
Beautiful day for a fan if a bit windy for the players. I actually wore shorts as did many others....made note of the fact that almost 50 years ago to the day was the "Syracuse 0 Degrees Game"....thank you climate change.
On to our nation's capitol and await the playoff seedings.
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Post by rgs318 on Nov 13, 2022 12:08:32 GMT -5
When are the seedings/pairings announced for the playoffs?
As to the announcers...at least they did not refer to the Crusaders by saying "we" as several other announcers do regularly. Yes, they do talk about Holy Cross items that few outside of our group would find interesting, but even other announcers have spoken about Coach Chesney's dad and their relationship.
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Post by football44 on Nov 13, 2022 12:09:28 GMT -5
Classic game of tale of 2 halves. We had opportunities to put this away but seemed to continually shoot ourselves in the foot offensively as well as breaking down defensively. Troubling lack of a pass rush is putting pressure on our secondary. As we've stated here, D injuries this year and graduation losses on the D-line have really hampered our D overall. Bryant overall was probably the best team we played after Buffalo, Yale, Harvard and Fordham. Beautiful day for a fan if a bit windy for the players. I actually wore shorts as did many others....made note of the fact that almost 50 years ago to the day was the "Syracuse 0 Degrees Game"....thank you climate change. On to our nation's capitol and await the playoff seedings. On the field for the sub zero game against Syracuse. Wow am I old (50 years ago).😂😂
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Post by CHC8485 on Nov 13, 2022 12:09:42 GMT -5
Does anyone know the Offensive Pass Interference rule; does it not apply if the receiver is still on the line of scrimmage? That second TD pass to the tight end, our guy was wiped out by a blocker before the guy even caught the ball. Anyone could have scored on that play. Pushing or blocking has to be more than 1 yard down field, for offensive pass interference. Thought it was close, but when it's a lineman doing the blocking, I think it has to be pretty obviously down field for a ref to call it.
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Post by football44 on Nov 13, 2022 12:13:38 GMT -5
Patriot League referees are terrible. I believe they have it in for Bob Chesney and Holy Cross. JMHO.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Nov 13, 2022 12:14:03 GMT -5
Ithaca vs SUNY Courtland played yesterday at Yankee Stadium in front of 40,000 plus. Who knew? Credit belongs to the alumni organizations of each school that talked the game up and got that sort of crowd. Combined enrollment of the schools is around 10,000. That outdrew HC vs Fordham a few years ago, didn't it? Only 21K; disgraceful given Fordham is right down the street and had a good team. But not Lehigh/Lafayette; that was a sellout. Cortaca is a top 10 sub-FBS rivalry game nationally IMO. It's basically Williams-Amherst but with way better parties. Not surprised they got 40K. HC-Fordham I don't think they opened the upper bowl.
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Post by efg72 on Nov 13, 2022 12:21:48 GMT -5
Patriot League referees are terrible. I believe they have it in for Bob Chesney and Holy Cross. JMHO. I think you are right, but it appears as if he expresses his displeasure with their incompetence on the field which might create some issues
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Nov 13, 2022 12:24:45 GMT -5
Thought the pro HC earnestness of the announcers was over the top. Tired of their repetitive use of the word "great." Obviously, videocasts abhor the vacuum of silence. They had to say something. But, their wide ranging stories on everything from Chesney's dad to Halloween distracted from the flow of the game. At least they did not "swallow the mic." The analysis itself was decent for HC fans. Bryant was not given its due. The announcers are well meaning good guys. Bill Stern? Ray Scott? Curt Gowdy? & others? Nah. Certainly I'm looking forward to their announcing other games next year for another undefeated HC football juggernaut. Eventually, I turned off the volume so that I could focus on the game, itself. You do realize that this was a Holy Cross paid for/produced broadcast right? If Curt Gowdy was paid by Holy Cross he'd be talking about Chesney's dad too. Worst announcer ever
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Post by rgs318 on Nov 13, 2022 12:25:40 GMT -5
For one thing, Coach Chesney seems to know the rules better than some of them...and most referees hate to be shown up...although they do seem to bring it on themselves with some of their calls. His post-game comments (if any) about officials are typically very tempered.
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Post by hchoops on Nov 13, 2022 12:27:29 GMT -5
The Bryant QB deserves a lot of credit for being so successful both with and against that wind in the second half.
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Post by hchoops on Nov 13, 2022 12:28:50 GMT -5
You do realize that this was a Holy Cross paid for/produced broadcast right? If Curt Gowdy was paid by Holy Cross he'd be talking about Chesney's dad too. Worst announcer everNot great, but I could name many, many worse We could start with the PL announcers.
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Post by football44 on Nov 13, 2022 12:35:04 GMT -5
Patriot League referees are terrible. I believe they have it in for Bob Chesney and Holy Cross. JMHO. I think you are right, but it appears as if he expresses his displeasure with their incompetence on the field which might create some issues In defense of our head coach, its tough to hold back your emotions when calls are terrible and so one sided. Matt Sluka runs the ball down to the 15/yard line and here comes the flag. We should have been up by 30 at halftime.
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Post by hchoops on Nov 13, 2022 12:39:22 GMT -5
I believe Ches has only 1 penalty this season. He knows the limit of most officials
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Post by hc87 on Nov 13, 2022 12:42:50 GMT -5
I was closer to the sideline than I normally am yesterday and it seemed like Chez was more animated than usual....whether that was a function of where I was sitting or not I couldn't tell you. Frustrating game in that we seemed to be always one offensive penalty (be it holding or OPI etc) from pulling away and sealing that game much earlier than we did.
Give credit to Chez and the staff for keeping our sideline from completely getting out of hand during that personal foul fracas on the punt return...they collectively did a nice job from keeping our guys from running across the field etc.
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Nov 13, 2022 12:49:30 GMT -5
You do realize that this was a Holy Cross paid for/produced broadcast right? If Curt Gowdy was paid by Holy Cross he'd be talking about Chesney's dad too. Worst announcer everOk, I can't remember if I took my eye drops this morning, but I will never this comment you made on a thread many, many years ago: "Curt Gowdy: the worst announcer who ever assaulted a microphone." I still get a chuckle out of that.
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Post by sader1970 on Nov 13, 2022 13:01:28 GMT -5
Curt Gowdy the worst announcer? Ha! Let me just say that all you Bostonians (+/-) might think that Johnny Most was a great announcer but if you come from outside of the Commonwealth, you'd likely agree he made Curt sound elegant and brilliant by comparison. (Have I stirred it up enough? )
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Nov 13, 2022 13:01:49 GMT -5
Ok, I can't remember if I took my eye drops this morning, but I will never this comment you made on a thread many, many years ago: "Curt Gowdy: the worst announcer who ever assaulted a microphone." I still get a chuckle out of that. I think it was a discussion about the 1977 hoops game against Michigan: "George Brown" and "Mike ViNCENS". Sorry for hijacking. Beat the Hoyas!
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