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Dec 4, 2016 13:30:14 GMT -5
Post by Chu Chu on Dec 4, 2016 13:30:14 GMT -5
Attendance: 612. On a Saturday when school is in session. Wow.
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Post by DiMarz on Dec 4, 2016 13:43:04 GMT -5
MZ has not attempted a three since the UMass game, but he's made some nice cuts to get free for 4-7 on twos in 40 minutes of play in those 5 games. I'd like to see what he could do in an extended time on court--and would also appreciate any input on how well he's been playing defense. To my eyes, on D he is not as quick as PB, KC, AT, and does not anticipate ball movement as well as RC and KC..He seems to be a step out of pace frequently, late getting to shooters because of these perceived negatives. Yet on offense he is able to compensate for his lack of speed and quickness to score the ball...I love his offensive possibilities, but right now I believe he needs to find a way to speed up his D...i.e. study film and make reads much sooner...
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UNH
Dec 4, 2016 13:45:39 GMT -5
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Post by unhfan on Dec 4, 2016 13:45:39 GMT -5
Attendance: 612. On a Saturday when school is in session. Wow. I was surprised by that number as there appeared to be a lot more than that there to me. I was surprised that I didn't see a lot of purple in the crowd. Anyhow it was a good win and glad to see UNH win an ugly game.
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UNH
Dec 4, 2016 14:48:26 GMT -5
Post by HC1843 on Dec 4, 2016 14:48:26 GMT -5
MZ has not attempted a three since the UMass game, but he's made some nice cuts to get free for 4-7 on twos in 40 minutes of play in those 5 games. I'd like to see what he could do in an extended time on court--and would also appreciate any input on how well he's been playing defense. To my eyes, on D he is not as quick as PB, KC, AT, and does not anticipate ball movement as well as RC and KC..He seems to be a step out of pace frequently, late getting to shooters because of these perceived negatives. Yet on offense he is able to compensate for his lack of speed and quickness to score the ball...I love his offensive possibilities, but right now I believe he needs to find a way to speed up his D...i.e. study film and make reads much sooner... He is a step or two slower when defends to his left than his right.
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UNH
Dec 4, 2016 19:15:36 GMT -5
Post by timholycross on Dec 4, 2016 19:15:36 GMT -5
Attendance: 612. On a Saturday when school is in session. Wow. I was surprised by that number as there appeared to be a lot more than that there to me. I was surprised that I didn't see a lot of purple in the crowd. Anyhow it was a good win and glad to see UNH win an ugly game. We can't see the side across from the bench on TV, but the bench side seemed closer to half full than quarter full. So, you figure the attendance was closer to 12-1300. Lundholm seats 2500, or did all those aisles shrink that?
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UNH
Dec 5, 2016 10:14:15 GMT -5
Post by Sons of Vaval on Dec 5, 2016 10:14:15 GMT -5
Didn't see the game, but going off of the box score, Charles is really the only one who played well. It's encouraging our best player is a sophomore.
Need to get more production out of the starting PG than 1-5 FG, 0-2 FT, and four turnovers in 31 minutes.
Silver lining -- this is the fourth time in five games we've held our opponent to fewer than 57 points.
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UNH
Dec 5, 2016 10:18:53 GMT -5
Post by rgs318 on Dec 5, 2016 10:18:53 GMT -5
One question...wasn't it AT who missed all 3 FTs at the end of the game?
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UNH
Dec 5, 2016 10:38:44 GMT -5
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Post by WorcesterGray on Dec 5, 2016 10:38:44 GMT -5
One question...wasn't it AT who missed all 3 FTs at the end of the game? Yes, final miss deliberate, off the backboard and didn't hit the rim, iirc - don't know if that affected how it's recorded in the box score. But illustrative of the larger point - we are a mediocre FT shooting team so far this year, hitting under 67% (233rd in D1), and in steady decline over the last few seasons. FT%, D1 rank in parens . . . 2012-13. 75.3% (18) 2013-14. 73.2% (63) 2014-15. 71.6% (96) 2015-16. 68.7% (223)
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UNH
Dec 5, 2016 10:56:49 GMT -5
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Dec 5, 2016 10:56:49 GMT -5
I think (hope) this percentage will move closer to 70%, Woo.
Champion is shooting 58.8% this year (68.2% last year). MA is 55.2% (63.2% last year). Ant 56.5% (79.5% last year). We need these three guys to start producing.
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UNH
Dec 5, 2016 11:13:19 GMT -5
Post by Sons of Vaval on Dec 5, 2016 11:13:19 GMT -5
Also, of note, is that we are on a record-setting pace for 3PT attempts this season. Last year we attempted 769 from distance (22 attempts per game and 154 more than the second-most ever attempted), and this year we're averaging nearly 25 attempts per game.
It's quite possible that five players attempt more than 100 3PT.
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UNH
Dec 5, 2016 11:16:48 GMT -5
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Post by WorcesterGray on Dec 5, 2016 11:16:48 GMT -5
Btw, the 75%+ FT shooting by the 2012-2013 team was, I think, the best in Holy Cross history - at least the best in the last 50 years. For those interested, individual and team season stats are available at the Sports-Reference CBB site going back to 1966-1967. www.sports-reference.com/cbb/schools/holy-cross/1967.html
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UNH
Dec 5, 2016 11:30:53 GMT -5
Post by lou on Dec 5, 2016 11:30:53 GMT -5
Does RC need to warm up more before the game? Seems to miss first half foul shots while making more in 2nd half
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UNH
Dec 5, 2016 11:44:29 GMT -5
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Post by hchoops on Dec 5, 2016 11:44:29 GMT -5
Probably more a concentration issue
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UNH
Dec 5, 2016 11:48:05 GMT -5
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Post by hchoops on Dec 5, 2016 11:48:05 GMT -5
I think (hope) this percentage will move closer to 70%, Woo. Champion is shooting 58.8% this year (68.2% last year). MA is 55.2% (63.2% last year). Ant 56.5% (79.5% last year). We need these three guys to start producing. This is especially problematic considering these are the players who will probably be most frequently fouled at the end of close games
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UNH
Dec 5, 2016 12:01:02 GMT -5
Post by possum on Dec 5, 2016 12:01:02 GMT -5
While it's comforting that arguably the best player on the team is a sophomore it's frightening to look at the roster he'll be playing with next year. In all likelihood we will be picked for last in the preseason PL poll. We need to hope and pray that some of the incoming frosh have an immediate impact as the current talent pool absent the seniors is pretty shallow.
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UNH
Dec 5, 2016 12:04:59 GMT -5
Post by rgs318 on Dec 5, 2016 12:04:59 GMT -5
While it's comforting that arguably the best player on the team is a sophomore it's frightening to look at the roster he'll be playing with next year. In all likelihood we will be picked for last in the preseason PL poll. We need to hope and pray that some of the incoming frosh have an immediate impact as the current talent pool absent the seniors is pretty shallow. I would respectfully disagree with that observation. We have yet to see what they can do. All we know for sure at this point is that the coaches the frosh are not yet at a point where they can take minutes from our veterans - especially our seniors. This is where watching practice can be a real insight about the future.
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UNH
Dec 5, 2016 12:15:42 GMT -5
Post by Sons of Vaval on Dec 5, 2016 12:15:42 GMT -5
While it's comforting that arguably the best player on the team is a sophomore it's frightening to look at the roster he'll be playing with next year. In all likelihood we will be picked for last in the preseason PL poll. We need to hope and pray that some of the incoming frosh have an immediate impact as the current talent pool absent the seniors is pretty shallow. Because the seniors have been such stars this season? There are many minutes that will need replacing, but that may not be the worst thing. Who would have thought Benzan was going to make such strides based on what we saw from him as a freshman? We also know little about the incoming freshmen -- perhaps one or two of them will be ready to contribute immediately. I, for one, am very excited about Green and Niego.
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UNH
Dec 5, 2016 12:29:29 GMT -5
Post by rgs318 on Dec 5, 2016 12:29:29 GMT -5
While it's comforting that arguably the best player on the team is a sophomore it's frightening to look at the roster he'll be playing with next year. In all likelihood we will be picked for last in the preseason PL poll. We need to hope and pray that some of the incoming frosh have an immediate impact as the current talent pool absent the seniors is pretty shallow. Because the seniors have been such stars this season? There are many minutes that will need replacing, but that may not be the worst thing. Who would have thought Benzan was going to make such strides based on what we saw from him as a freshman? We also know little about the incoming freshmen -- perhaps one or two of them will be ready to contribute immediately. I, for one, am very excited about Green and Niego. I have mixed feelings about this, SoV. The seniors have shown flashes, but there is still last year's finish to remember. I believe they are a talented group and that they have improved in their overall play from last year (regular season, at least). It is hard to replace such experience. You are right that Benzan has made huge strides and I have to believe coaching has a lot to do with that. I also see improvement in the "raw" talent of Floyd (if he had only had a chance to play AAU ball...) The incoming frosh show promise and will not have to contend with seniors who hold starting spots. I think next year may be the best chance we will see for some time for a freshman to grab significant minutes. Perhaps Green and Niego will have frosh years like KC...we can always hope.
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UNH
Dec 5, 2016 12:37:00 GMT -5
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Post by hc6774 on Dec 5, 2016 12:37:00 GMT -5
Didn't see the game, but going off of the box score, Charles is really the only one who played well. It's encouraging our best player is a sophomore. Silver lining -- this is the fourth time in five games we've held our opponent to fewer than 57 points. I watched the game... I think KC's foul troubles in both halves effected our offense... one of the reasons for the scoring draughts...his points were too late as well as too little. We need to score in the 60's as well as manage the end of the game.
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Dec 5, 2016 12:37:29 GMT -5
Post by KY Crusader 75 on Dec 5, 2016 12:37:29 GMT -5
Matt Faw also impresses me as someone who can contribute early
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UNH
Dec 5, 2016 12:39:10 GMT -5
Post by lou on Dec 5, 2016 12:39:10 GMT -5
Didn't see the game, but going off of the box score, Charles is really the only one who played well. It's encouraging our best player is a sophomore. Silver lining -- this is the fourth time in five games we've held our opponent to fewer than 57 points. I watched the game... I think KC's foul troubles in both halves effected our offense... one of the reasons for the scoring draughts...his points were too late as well as too little. We need to score in the 60's as well as manage the end of the game. KC got the first 7 points, and just about the last 7 points
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UNH
Dec 5, 2016 12:39:32 GMT -5
Post by rgs318 on Dec 5, 2016 12:39:32 GMT -5
The current frosh may also be able to "contribute early." There is still time for that this year. HC has only played eight games.
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UNH
Dec 5, 2016 12:45:51 GMT -5
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Post by unhfan on Dec 5, 2016 12:45:51 GMT -5
Gentlemen you need to remember Coach is still trying to implement his system with a roster that are not all his players. Give it time. You guys caught lighting in a bottle last March it could happen again.
I thought from seeing your team this year and last year that you guys looked physically bigger which will help. There are some nice pieces on your team and when Coach gets all his players in the system I think you will be a consistent contender in the PL. The style you play is not seen by most teams, slows the game down, and gives you a chance almost every night(exception being top level high majors.)
Maine is awful you should win that easily!
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UNH
Dec 5, 2016 12:59:18 GMT -5
Post by possum on Dec 5, 2016 12:59:18 GMT -5
RGS I hope you are right and the current freshmen can contribute this year but the thing that concerns me is that Carmody had a history of playing freshmen at Northwestern and certainly played Charles and Ziggy last year so it makes me wonder about this years group. I guess time will tell and we'll see how it plays out going forward.
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Dec 5, 2016 13:04:37 GMT -5
Post by rgs318 on Dec 5, 2016 13:04:37 GMT -5
RGS I hope you are right and the current freshmen can contribute this year but the thing that concerns me is that Carmody had a history of playing freshmen at Northwestern and certainly played Charles and Ziggy last year so it makes me wonder about this years group. I guess time will tell and we'll see how it plays out going forward. I see your point, but last year it was wide open as players picked up the system at different times. Charles was never a question. Ziggy is still growing into the PO but there was time to give him a shot early. I think some teams in the PL Are being underrated at this point. That may be true for HC as well. I have to agree with UNH that even though this is year two, HC is still a work in progress. We have a great difference, but at times have cold spells. That was true last year as well. It was also true under RW. I can remember how many people posted they were pulling their hair out as they watched the HC offense - or what passed for offense - under Ralph. (Anyone else remember that Army game where each point seemed like it might be the last one?)
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