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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Dec 15, 2022 10:55:47 GMT -5
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Post by hchoops on Dec 15, 2022 11:12:24 GMT -5
Any scouting report from Mass natives ? No politics
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Post by rf1 on Dec 15, 2022 11:22:35 GMT -5
As a Harvard hoops alum and governor of Massachusetts, he will soon see an entirely different side to college sports unlike anything he ever experienced before. College sports in new england are far different than most other parts of the US.
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Post by purplenurple on Dec 15, 2022 11:44:35 GMT -5
Straight shooter and a steady hand. Pragmatic leader, not going to make waves. Solid choice by the NCAA and I am sure he won't mind the paycheck.
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Post by Tom on Dec 15, 2022 11:46:41 GMT -5
I will add the he was a fairly popular governor who chose not to run for re-election this past cycle. Makes me wonder if he knew about this opportunity months ago when he chose not to run
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Dec 15, 2022 11:53:30 GMT -5
The power five schools may be a bit concerned at this point. No doubt they’ll want to educate him so he knows that the NCAA’s goal should remain the advancement of the P5 programs.
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Post by hchoops on Dec 15, 2022 11:56:44 GMT -5
Are not those Power 5 football schools semi independent of the NCAA ?
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Dec 15, 2022 12:11:31 GMT -5
Are not those Power 5 football schools semi independent of the NCAA ? The only thing that's semi-independent of the NCAA, for now, is the College Football Playoff and bowl system. Everything else -- eligibility, scholarships, recruiting, FCOA, NIL, etc. is still regulated by the NCAA.
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Post by rf1 on Dec 15, 2022 12:41:42 GMT -5
Will he apply the Massachusetts college sports model to the rest of the NCAA?
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Post by longsuffering on Dec 15, 2022 13:12:01 GMT -5
Maybe the NCAA wanted a Diplomat/Politician used to working with a legislature overwhelmingly of the other party to keep the organization together.
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Post by purple1 on Dec 15, 2022 18:12:44 GMT -5
Love the purple tie ! Charlie is a good guy who has many Holy Cross friends and likes sports..... played basketball at Harvard and enjoyed coming to Holy Cross often to see friends and play in the Fieldhouse. Sure hope he can protect the NCAA from becoming a professional feeder to pro sports.
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Post by matunuck on Dec 15, 2022 22:22:41 GMT -5
www.wgbh.org/news/politics/2022/12/15/gov-charlie-baker-named-next-president-of-the-ncaaThe other issue, Matheson said, is whether the crown jewel of the NCAA, March Madness, can be held together going forward, pointing out how important the redistribution of money from that tournament is to athletic programs across the country. "You're going to see more and more push by the Power 5 conferences1 to have more of their teams in there, fewer of the Holy Crosses, fewer of the University of Vermonts, more of the Dukes, more of the Kenutckys," he said. "And again, how are you going to split up that money? Are you gonna split up that money so that the conferences that do very well in the tournament, do they get even more of the proceeds out of it? Or is it gonna stay like today where the NCAA ... basically takes a bunch of men's basketball money and lavishes it on every single Divison I program — from men's swimming at Holy Cross and women's soccer at Harvard — and it doesn't all go back to the Kentucky and Louisville basketball programs."
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Post by mm67 on Dec 16, 2022 9:58:44 GMT -5
More tectonic landscape shifts in college athletics are on the way. An NLRB committee has stated scholarship athletes are employees of the school. Unionization of these employees may be on the horizon. Will there be a nationwide union of college athletes(NUCA)? Will this impact NIL opportunities? Will player employees with lucrative NIL deals pay tuition? Arrange their own housing - buy/rent outside the purview of the school? The NCAA is little more than an industrial trade group organized to fill the coffers of their university business members.How will this impact the NCAA? The Universities? Universities as "non-profit" or not- for profit businesses? Will there be a spill over effect on professional sports? This is likely to open a new area of case law. No doubt this will be a bonanza for lawyers, agents & lawyer-agents. Accountants/tax advisers stand to benefit. It will be interesting to watch how this unfolds and Baker & the NCAA's respond. Is it possible the NCAA hired Baker hoping his political contacts in the Congress will help protect its member universities? Will Charlie Baker be "the savior" of "college" sports? Are non-scholarship players employees, too? Are need based scholarship student-athletes employees? No more sanctimonious student athletes but the even more sanctimonious students who happen to play sports.Will more colleges move to a school-wide need based scholarship model similar to the IL in an effort to avoid unionized professional college athletes ? Where goeth HC & the PL?
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Post by Tom on Dec 16, 2022 10:15:18 GMT -5
More tectonic landscape shifts in college athletics are on the way. An NLRB committee has stated scholarship athletes are employees of the school. Unionization of these employees may be on the horizon. Will there be a nationwide union of college athletes(NUCA)? Will this impact NIL opportunities? Will player employees with lucrative NIL deals pay tuition? Arrange their own housing - buy/rent outside the purview of the school? Straying a little from sports, but if we're going to start calling scholarship athletes employees, then I would assume that their scholarship is taxable income. One thing to hand over a percentage of a cash NIL payment to the government. Another thing to come up with the cash to pay the tax on a $70 000 scholarship
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Post by alum on Dec 16, 2022 10:52:10 GMT -5
More tectonic landscape shifts in college athletics are on the way. An NLRB committee has stated scholarship athletes are employees of the school. Unionization of these employees may be on the horizon. Will there be a nationwide union of college athletes(NUCA)? Will this impact NIL opportunities? Will player employees with lucrative NIL deals pay tuition? Arrange their own housing - buy/rent outside the purview of the school? Straying a little from sports, but if we're going to start calling scholarship athletes employees, then I would assume that their scholarship is taxable income. One thing to hand over a percentage of a cash NIL payment to the government. Another thing to come up with the cash to pay the tax on a $70 000 scholarship And if scholarship athletes are employees, what about the kid who wins the endowed flute scholarship and plays in various ensembles which perform before the public? Is her scholarship taxable, too?
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Post by alum on Dec 16, 2022 10:55:55 GMT -5
www.wgbh.org/news/politics/2022/12/15/gov-charlie-baker-named-next-president-of-the-ncaaThe other issue, Matheson said, is whether the crown jewel of the NCAA, March Madness, can be held together going forward, pointing out how important the redistribution of money from that tournament is to athletic programs across the country. "You're going to see more and more push by the Power 5 conferences1 to have more of their teams in there, fewer of the Holy Crosses, fewer of the University of Vermonts, more of the Dukes, more of the Kenutckys," he said. "And again, how are you going to split up that money? Are you gonna split up that money so that the conferences that do very well in the tournament, do they get even more of the proceeds out of it? Or is it gonna stay like today where the NCAA ... basically takes a bunch of men's basketball money and lavishes it on every single Divison I program — from men's swimming at Holy Cross and women's soccer at Harvard — and it doesn't all go back to the Kentucky and Louisville basketball programs." It was nice of the professor to mention his employer twice in an interview. He also correctly used the word "fewer" which is a mistake we pedants watch for here on Crossports.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Dec 16, 2022 13:03:45 GMT -5
If I am not mistaken, the regional NLRB decision affects only private universities, specifically the University of Southern California, and only football, M/W basketball. And an opinion by an NLRB general counsel specified that athletes competing in a sport that generates a profit could be classified as an employee. So doesn't apply to HC or almost all of FCS, as all but three FCS schools lose money on football. I think nearly all lose money on men's hopps, and all lose money on women's hoops.
News article excerpt.. [Emphasis mine]. ------------------- Boar d of Regents for the University of California system approved UCLA joining the B-10, with conditions. UCLA has to partly indemnify Cal Berkeley for lost TV revenue because the PAC-12 broadcast rights monies will be less as a result of USC and UCLA hoofing it. This may be as much as $20 million a year. UCLA is also required to charter aircraft for all away contests in all sports. IIRC, the projected travel costs are now $12-15 million annually.
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Post by Tom on Dec 16, 2022 13:03:52 GMT -5
Straying a little from sports, but if we're going to start calling scholarship athletes employees, then I would assume that their scholarship is taxable income. One thing to hand over a percentage of a cash NIL payment to the government. Another thing to come up with the cash to pay the tax on a $70 000 scholarship And if scholarship athletes are employees, what about the kid who wins the endowed flute scholarship and plays in various ensembles which perform before the public? Is her scholarship taxable, too? I'm reminded of this lady named Pandora who was taking care of a box. . .
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Dec 16, 2022 13:10:55 GMT -5
More tectonic landscape shifts in college athletics are on the way. An NLRB committee has stated scholarship athletes are employees of the school. Unionization of these employees may be on the horizon. Will there be a nationwide union of college athletes(NUCA)? Will this impact NIL opportunities? Will player employees with lucrative NIL deals pay tuition? Arrange their own housing - buy/rent outside the purview of the school? Straying a little from sports, but if we're going to start calling scholarship athletes employees, then I would assume that their scholarship is taxable income. One thing to hand over a percentage of a cash NIL payment to the government. Another thing to come up with the cash to pay the tax on a $70 000 scholarship As I understand it, they are only employees if the university is generating a profit from a sport, and their participation in that sport. I don't think this makes their scollies taxable. If however, the athletes demand a share of the profit, and that demand is met, then the profit sharinbg would be taxable income. That's my reading of the mess.
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Post by mm67 on Dec 16, 2022 13:19:33 GMT -5
HC & PL should wait, see and proceed with caution? Put any major decisions on the back burner? And, does Coach Chesney want to leave the relative stability and support of beautiful HC and jump into the uncertain, maelstrom of big time college sports?
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Post by longsuffering on Dec 16, 2022 16:49:38 GMT -5
HC & PL should wait, see and proceed with caution? Put any major decisions on the back burner? And, does Coach Chesney want to leave the relative stability and support of beautiful HC and jump into the uncertain, maelstrom of big time college sports? I hope he doesn't quote another Bay State Coach and say "We're on to Cincinatti." The Bearcats are in town to play Louisville for the "Keg of Nails" at the Fenway Bowl. They have Kerry Coombs coaching as interim head coach. The keg (of nails) has been in Louisville since the last Cincinnati/Louisville clash in 2013 and they are flying it up to Boston.
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