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Post by Sons of Vaval on Jan 5, 2023 21:06:39 GMT -5
What was Nelson doing letting AU run the clock down up four in the final minute? Bizarre.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jan 5, 2023 21:07:27 GMT -5
What a shame-should have been a very good win
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Post by longsuffering on Jan 5, 2023 21:08:23 GMT -5
A heck of an effort.
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Post by Bleed Purple on Jan 5, 2023 21:09:28 GMT -5
Tough loss but our team is highly competitive in the PL.
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Post by hcbaseballalum on Jan 5, 2023 21:10:01 GMT -5
Gave up with 330 left in OT
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Post by hcnation on Jan 5, 2023 21:11:15 GMT -5
American a good team
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Post by sader1998 on Jan 5, 2023 21:12:54 GMT -5
Glass half-full: HC was a missed FT away from being 3-0 in the league against a team that has better size and shooting and may well be in the PL final.
Glass half-empty: too shaky in late-game situations, thin bench, lack of PG to direct offense effectively all led to a loss in a winnable game.
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Post by rgs318 on Jan 5, 2023 21:16:28 GMT -5
It really did come down to one missed free throw in a game some said would not be close. They never quit...even in the final seconds. Looking forward to the next game.
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Post by hchoops on Jan 5, 2023 21:21:17 GMT -5
Missed free throws happen, and the shooter has such a high %. Whiffing on an inbounds pass in the backcourt in crunch time should not
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Post by hchoops on Jan 5, 2023 21:23:23 GMT -5
Gave up with 330 left in OT Wrong We never gave up. AU made shots. We turned it over and missed shots. No give up the last three games.
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Post by trimster on Jan 5, 2023 21:33:04 GMT -5
How do we not camp out on the 3 point line with 3 seconds left and then foul the guy who catches the inbounds pass so they don't get a chance to get off the 3. As long as we could inbound the ball after the made free throws we have a 99% of winning even if we miss the front or back end of the 1 and 1 down the other end.
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Post by hchoops on Jan 5, 2023 21:36:55 GMT -5
They ran a very effective last second play. The shooter basically caught and released in the same motion, If we attempted a foul, it most likely would have resulted in either a 3 shot foul if the shooter missed, or the chance or a 4 point play for the chance of a win.
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Post by trimster on Jan 5, 2023 21:40:33 GMT -5
That was a brutal loss. HC outplayed them for 39:50. Just heartbreaking.
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Post by thecrossisback on Jan 5, 2023 21:44:12 GMT -5
Your comment is soft. Go to that game in person instead of ESPN Plus and tell me that team who had a rough go in out of confrence hasn't surprised you? Tell Gates to his face he is soft. Give me a break not many people even game them a chance in this game.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Jan 5, 2023 21:51:55 GMT -5
American deserves a lot of credit for hitting two tough three point shots and a long two in that final minute. Those are eight points that HC would struggle to keep off the board — AU just hit the shots. Hchoops makes a good point that while HC could have tried to give a foul at the end to prevent a three point shot, Sprouts received the ball in a catch and shoot position. Fouling would have meant three free throws. You could argue Nelson should have set the defense up in a better way to prevent a three point opportunity. At the end of the day, the kid just hit a tough shot. Tip your hat.
Dorsey missing the back end of the one and one was obviously a killer.
What’s even worse though was Bo losing concentration and having the ball go right through his hands. That can’t happen. Catch the ball and Dorsey is in all likelihood not having to hit both of those free throws.
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Post by hchoops on Jan 5, 2023 21:54:44 GMT -5
We could not set up a 3 point D when we had no more timeouts.
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Post by cmo on Jan 5, 2023 21:55:01 GMT -5
Up 56-49 with under a minute to go. Ouch.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jan 5, 2023 21:55:47 GMT -5
Two late deadly turnovers that looked liked mental lapses to this non-expert.
We had a 10 point advantage from the free-throw line
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Post by cmo on Jan 5, 2023 21:56:30 GMT -5
We could not set up a 3 point D when we had no more timeouts. Can’t that be set up situationally in practice?
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Jan 5, 2023 21:58:57 GMT -5
We could not set up a 3 point D when we had no more timeouts. Is a timeout needed to do this? Seems like this should be an end-of-game situation that the team practices.
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Post by notjuanjones on Jan 5, 2023 23:16:30 GMT -5
Re: Sprouse three to tie: Will just say that that was an incredible inbounds pass by Eli Stephens. He didn't even look Geoff's way until the ball was coming out of his hands. There's no way the defender can anticipate the ball's going there in that situation. And, then, Geoff just made an incredible gather and shoot in one motion. I don't think HC could have defended that play much better. Sometimes good offense beats good defense.
Y'all are gonna be a factor in this thing. Defensive connectivity is terrific. We stole this one, and our guys had to make some great shots down the stretch to pull it out.
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Post by Xmassader on Jan 5, 2023 23:18:27 GMT -5
Up 5 with 21 seconds to go with a foul to give. Along with the turnover by Bo and the missed second FT, I thought that we should have committed a foul there. Having said that, Dorsey played excellent D on O’Neil who made a tremendous shot…as did Sprouse at the end.
As SOV indicated, the finish was reminiscent of the end of the Loyola (Chic) game in November, 2009 where we were up 8 with about 1:20 to go and lost the game in regulation.
Also made me think of the Halley’s Comet PL tournament run in 2016 where Champion hit the 3 pointer vs. Bucknell in the first OT. Why was I reminded of that? Because like tonight, most of the time in my memory HC has been on the wrong end of those last minute finishes (UMASS at the Hart Center in 1977, UCONN at the Boston Garden in 1980, Perry Moss of Northeastern in the ECAC North tournament in the early ‘80s, Jean Prioleau of Fordham in the inaugural PL tournament in ‘91, the ‘09 Loyola game and the game tonight) but that was one time when fortune favored HC.
The cliche is that “things even out over the long haul”. If true, HC should have many future moments to enjoy.
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Post by trimster on Jan 5, 2023 23:27:39 GMT -5
They ran a very effective last second play. The shooter basically caught and released in the same motion, If we attempted a foul, it most likely would have resulted in either a 3 shot foul if the shooter missed, or the chance or a 4 point play for the chance of a win. We could have fouled before the inbounds pass.
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Post by hchoops on Jan 5, 2023 23:44:56 GMT -5
Fouling before the pass is made could have been called 2 shots and the ball.
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Post by sader1970 on Jan 5, 2023 23:52:21 GMT -5
1. In pre-game warm-ups, it looked like AU never missed a 3 pointer I said to my partner, I hope they are hitting all their 3's in practice and not in the game. In the end, they hit those 3s when they counted. 2. We were up 5 with 50 seconds left and our possession when things started to unravel with the inbound pass that was just totally blown and a costly unforced error. I just got the words out of my mouth that with any other coach, this would be a guaranteed win but wasn't that confident. My doubts were unfortunately realized. 3. Taking nothing away from the team, while this was winnable, I was among many here who didn't think we'd go 3-0 in PL when the night was over. Except in the last minute of regulation and in OT, our defense was outstanding. The guys played their hearts out and deserved to have won this. A great effort from a much shorter team with a shorter bench as well. 4. My guesstimate was 350-400 in attendance (real people, not official ticket counts). Lots of enthusiasm from the small crowd. 5. Coach Chesney was in the house with son and a daughter cheering on the team as was AD KH.
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