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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jan 24, 2023 15:16:26 GMT -5
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jan 24, 2023 15:30:58 GMT -5
Summary— boosters and companies paying NIL money to athletes may be reducing their donations to athletic departments, thus jeopardizing the future of minor sports
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Post by hchoops on Jan 24, 2023 15:40:39 GMT -5
PS
And the administrations/Boards or Trustees really do not care
As long as they have their cash cows of football and men’s hoops
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Post by cruskater31 on Jan 26, 2023 10:00:01 GMT -5
There is an NIL group on campus that Sluka was posting about. Obviously NIL at the FCS level is quite different, but perhaps we can leverage it just enough to get an advantage over most of our New England FCS foes. A very talented player who might start right away at a Stonehill could ink an NIL deal and contribute at HC. Maybe he would be a depth player for a year or two, but then really contribute down the line. Just a random thought...
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Jan 26, 2023 11:32:02 GMT -5
Summary— boosters and companies paying NIL money to athletes may be reducing their donations to athletic departments, thus jeopardizing the future of minor sports I knew this would ultimately be the case. While, as the UNC AD stated, it's not a complete zero-sum game, there will be trade-offs. Athletic dept. and program-specific donations that in the past went to other things will now go towards paying players. At some point, the cash going into players' pockets will come at the detriment of facilities upgrades, recruiting budgets, coaching salaries, travel expenses and minor sports. The college athletics machine will need to keep finding ways to grow the pie => bigger conference cable and streaming contracts as well as revenue growth coming from expanded championship tournaments. More games = more ticket revenue and bigger broadcast deals. The other factor of course is the fact that most of the big-time sports schools are state universities. Will taxpayers simply just be more so on the hook to fund stadium and facilities upgrades and massive coaches' salaries as opposed to booster groups? |
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Jan 26, 2023 11:35:15 GMT -5
There is an NIL group on campus that Sluka was posting about. Obviously NIL at the FCS level is quite different, but perhaps we can leverage it just enough to get an advantage over most of our New England FCS foes. A very talented player who might start right away at a Stonehill could ink an NIL deal and contribute at HC. Maybe he would be a depth player for a year or two, but then really contribute down the line. Just a random thought... IMO, most Holy Cross athletes benefiting from NIL will be more organic in nature (earnings from camps, one-on-one clinics, social media, etc.), just like was intended when the NCAA loosened the rules. I don't see alumni groups swarming in to create NIL funding pools and creating ferkakta "marketing companies" to funnel cash to student athletes. |
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Post by hcpride on Jan 26, 2023 12:19:15 GMT -5
It seems some schools have realized a good way to buy a five-star (or several) is to see donor cash funneled to the very top kids via NIL deals. Parallel to the usual timing of recruitment and schollie offers. What might be called 'upfront NIL deals'.
Notre Dame and some similar institutions are in a bit of a quandary in that they don't want to organize, offer, or even look the other way on upfront NIL deals but they also don't want to see themselves continually outbid for the top players.
(Not talking post-commitment NIL deals, FCS deals, or even what is taking place at most most FBS schools)
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Post by DFW HOYA on Jan 26, 2023 12:19:44 GMT -5
IMO, most Holy Cross athletes benefiting from NIL will be more organic in nature (earnings from camps, one-on-one clinics, social media, etc.), just like was intended when the NCAA loosened the rules. I don't see alumni groups swarming in to create NIL funding pools and creating ferkakta "marketing companies" to funnel cash to student athletes. If they did, what then? The Patriot League can't ban collectives. |
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Post by sader1970 on Jan 26, 2023 12:31:23 GMT -5
My idea that I was kicking around in my head was not to collect money for student NILs but rather a fund to help supplement salaries for our underpaid assistant coaches, especially in football, so that we don't lose them after the last 4 successful years. I might just wait until I hit the Powerball tonight.  |
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Post by timholycross on Jan 27, 2023 9:56:01 GMT -5
IMO, most Holy Cross athletes benefiting from NIL will be more organic in nature (earnings from camps, one-on-one clinics, social media, etc.), just like was intended when the NCAA loosened the rules. I don't see alumni groups swarming in to create NIL funding pools and creating ferkakta "marketing companies" to funnel cash to student athletes. If they did, what then? The Patriot League can't ban collectives. Someone in D3 can buy a national championship now if they want to; never mind in the Patriot League. Out of the schools' control barring some very well-written rules (well written because otherwise they'll never hold up in court). |
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Post by hcpride on Jan 29, 2023 10:30:08 GMT -5
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Post by sader1970 on Jan 29, 2023 10:54:44 GMT -5
Someone earlier posted about the inmates running the asylum. While I don't care to describe student-athletes as an inmate (though maybe the NCAA is an asylum?), some rules have to be put down, in writing, soon, probably by Congress in order to put a check on SCOTUS,
Years ago, I suggested, quasi-seriously that colleges and universities flat out pay "student"-athletes to play their sport and not even require that they go to classes or take courses. If they wanted to do that, they would pay room, board, tuition, etc. -the cost of their education - out of the salary (and bonuses, of course). Let's call it a minor professional league as that's what it is becoming. "The Last Amateurs?" Feinstein will have to re-write and update his book.
Right now, the NIL is one part of that equation. And we know in some big time schools, the kids aren't going to class; someone else takes their tests; and write their reports anyway.
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Post by efg72 on Aug 9, 2023 11:30:59 GMT -5
William and Mary story is great, and another program driven to win the National Title. Here is a piece about the NIL and a great line by DE John Pius and a comment from London about the value of the W&M degree. The link to the article is below. The key? Pius, whose continued presence at W&M may be viewed by some as surprising, given the Name, Image, and Likeness market for high-quality pass-rushers in NCAA football. Pius said he values W&M’s winning football atmosphere – the Tribe last year went 11-2, sharing the CAA Football title and advancing to the FCS quarterfinals - and a degree from the school. That combination explains his return. Said London: “When you can develop a culture and a relationship when you have a school that talks about academic excellence, you have the Master’s programs in our grad schools that do an excellent job of not just branding a William & Mary student-athlete when they are doing their undergrad, but also after they’re done …” “So you can make $5,000, $8,000, $10,000 somewhere else through an NIL. Or you can get a Master’s degree here and earn six figures.” It's homecoming all season for W&M assistant Bill Parker, an Atlee High grad London, on the flip side, by not frequently hitting the transfer market has given his young players reason to believe they can develop and progressively step from the shadows to the spotlight at W&M. “We very seldom have gone in the transfer portal. I – right, wrong or indifferent – have decided to recruit high school kids and grow them up in the program,” said London. richmond.com/sports/college/schools/william-and-mary/john-pius-fierce-face-of-w-m-football-can-quickly-drop-curtain-on-qb-act/article_876d10f4-36b2-11ee-b6a3-bfb4578bfc04.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=user-share |
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Post by hc6774 on Aug 9, 2023 11:51:41 GMT -5
William and Mary story is great, and another program driven to win the National Title. Here is a piece about the NIL and a great line by DE John Pius and a comment from London about the value of the W&M degree. The link to the article is below. The key? Pius, whose continued presence at W&M may be viewed by some as surprising, given the Name, Image, and Likeness market for high-quality pass-rushers in NCAA football. Pius said he values W&M’s winning football atmosphere – the Tribe last year went 11-2, sharing the CAA Football title and advancing to the FCS quarterfinals - and a degree from the school. That combination explains his return. Said London: “When you can develop a culture and a relationship when you have a school that talks about academic excellence, you have the Master’s programs in our grad schools that do an excellent job of not just branding a William & Mary student-athlete when they are doing their undergrad, but also after they’re done …” “So you can make $5,000, $8,000, $10,000 somewhere else through an NIL. Or you can get a Master’s degree here and earn six figures.” It's homecoming all season for W&M assistant Bill Parker, an Atlee High grad London, on the flip side, by not frequently hitting the transfer market has given his young players reason to believe they can develop and progressively step from the shadows to the spotlight at W&M. “We very seldom have gone in the transfer portal. I – right, wrong or indifferent – have decided to recruit high school kids and grow them up in the program,” said London. richmond.com/sports/college/schools/william-and-mary/john-pius-fierce-face-of-w-m-football-can-quickly-drop-curtain-on-qb-act/article_876d10f4-36b2-11ee-b6a3-bfb4578bfc04.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=user-shareargument for nonmed red shirt? |
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Post by hcpride on Aug 9, 2023 13:36:46 GMT -5
We’re ranked up there with William & Mary in terms of FCS football right now. The company you keep…
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