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Post by trimster on Feb 11, 2023 8:19:13 GMT -5
The story on ESPN says NMSU suspends its program over hazing. Something a whole lot more serious took place last year the night before a NMSU vs New Mexico game involving a player who shot and killed a Lobo student.
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Post by trimster on Feb 11, 2023 8:24:25 GMT -5
The story on ESPN says NMSU suspends its program over hazing. Something a whole lot more serious took place last year the night before a NMSU vs New Mexico game involving a player who shot and killed a Lobo student. The shooting incident happened in November of 22. Must have been the beginning of the current season. Claim is it was in self-defense. |
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Post by timholycross on Feb 12, 2023 8:47:37 GMT -5
NM State's pretty much the only school in the current WAC with any basketball tradition* and they've made some dance appearances recently.
I'd figure they'd be winning or close to winning that league, yet they were dead last. Strange goings on.
*Seattle is in second place; great team in the 50s and 60s, no post season appearances since 1968. Dropped to D2 for 30 years.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Feb 12, 2023 10:02:02 GMT -5
I think Seattle was NAIA.
The WAC has totally flipped membership-wise since the FBS football conference went under. NMSU the last holdout from those days.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Feb 12, 2023 10:05:14 GMT -5
The story on ESPN says NMSU suspends its program over hazing. Something a whole lot more serious took place last year the night before a NMSU vs New Mexico game involving a player who shot and killed a Lobo student. I think the player shot and killed a UNM student in self-defense. He was lured to a campus dorm by UNM co-ed but it was actually an ambush. He was shot at and shot back. Whether either or both were carrying legally, I'm not sure. This took place this past September. And then a couple months later the NMSU basketball bus was pulled over and raided by police on a road trip. |
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Post by Tom on Feb 12, 2023 11:54:02 GMT -5
The story on ESPN says NMSU suspends its program over hazing. Something a whole lot more serious took place last year the night before a NMSU vs New Mexico game involving a player who shot and killed a Lobo student. I think the player shot and killed a UNM student in self-defense. He was lured to a campus dorm by UNM co-ed but it was actually an ambush. He was shot at and shot back. Whether either or both were carrying legally, I'm not sure. This took place this past September. And then a couple months later the NMSU basketball bus was pulled over and raided by police on a road trip. Scary stuff |
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Post by longsuffering on Feb 12, 2023 12:29:36 GMT -5
NM State's pretty much the only school in the current WAC with any basketball tradition* and they've made some dance appearances recently. I'd figure they'd be winning or close to winning that league, yet they were dead last. Strange goings on. *Seattle is in second place; great team in the 50s and 60s, no post season appearances since 1968. Dropped to D2 for 30 years. Apparently the WCC has not let Seatle rejoin the league after they returned to D-1. If Gonzaga doesn't want an additional two league games, well I guess they are the 600 lb. Gorilla in that conference. |
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Feb 12, 2023 13:14:38 GMT -5
The WCC has added teams relatively recently (Pacific and BYU). Could be the WCC doesn't view Seattle as a program that brings enough to the table just yet.
They could always had Chaminade as well if they decide everyone could use a Hawaii trip each winter.
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Post by timholycross on Feb 12, 2023 14:05:56 GMT -5
NM State's pretty much the only school in the current WAC with any basketball tradition* and they've made some dance appearances recently. I'd figure they'd be winning or close to winning that league, yet they were dead last. Strange goings on. *Seattle is in second place; great team in the 50s and 60s, no post season appearances since 1968. Dropped to D2 for 30 years. Apparently the WCC has not let Seatle rejoin the league after they returned to D-1. If Gonzaga doesn't want an additional two league games, well I guess they are the 600 lb. Gorilla in that conference. Interesting timeline of schools in and out of that league; en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Coast_Conference Seattle was in it only 10 years, which surprised me (thought they were always in it until they downgraded the program). Pacific, to paraphrase the famous line from Godfather 3, thought they were out, then they pulled them back! Portland, the Zags and San Diego were all later additions. |
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Post by trimster on Feb 12, 2023 14:59:44 GMT -5
NM State's pretty much the only school in the current WAC with any basketball tradition* and they've made some dance appearances recently. I'd figure they'd be winning or close to winning that league, yet they were dead last. Strange goings on. *Seattle is in second place; great team in the 50s and 60s, no post season appearances since 1968. Dropped to D2 for 30 years. Elgin Baylor is from the U of Seattle. |
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Post by hc1998 on Feb 13, 2023 7:52:57 GMT -5
The story on ESPN says NMSU suspends its program over hazing. Something a whole lot more serious took place last year the night before a NMSU vs New Mexico game involving a player who shot and killed a Lobo student. I think the player shot and killed a UNM student in self-defense. He was lured to a campus dorm by UNM co-ed but it was actually an ambush. He was shot at and shot back. Whether either or both were carrying legally, I'm not sure. This took place this past September. And then a couple months later the NMSU basketball bus was pulled over and raided by police on a road trip. Shooting was in November and team bus was pulled over leaving that trip...I'm not sure, but the September incident you mention could be the fight at the football game between the schools that was the motivation for the shooting. |
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Post by Tom on Feb 13, 2023 9:53:53 GMT -5
I think the player shot and killed a UNM student in self-defense. He was lured to a campus dorm by UNM co-ed but it was actually an ambush. He was shot at and shot back. Whether either or both were carrying legally, I'm not sure. This took place this past September. And then a couple months later the NMSU basketball bus was pulled over and raided by police on a road trip. Shooting was in November and team bus was pulled over leaving that trip...I'm not sure, but the September incident you mention could be the fight at the football game between the schools that was the motivation for the shooting. That seems strange. If the NMSU guy was at UNM for a game or scrimmage (otherwise why was he on a team bus?) why was he anywhere near a dorm. I don't think visiting teams generally have a lot of alone time to wander the campus |
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Post by Tom on Feb 13, 2023 10:03:29 GMT -5
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Post by hchoops on Feb 13, 2023 10:19:51 GMT -5
The hazing charge has been detailed to kidnapping etc against 3 players toward a teammate
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Post by hc1998 on Feb 13, 2023 11:13:56 GMT -5
Shooting was in November and team bus was pulled over leaving that trip...I'm not sure, but the September incident you mention could be the fight at the football game between the schools that was the motivation for the shooting. That seems strange. If the NMSU guy was at UNM for a game or scrimmage (otherwise why was he on a team bus?) why was he anywhere near a dorm. I don't think visiting teams generally have a lot of alone time to wander the campus They arrived night before a game...he was lured out after curfew and snuck out. Look at their schedule, shooting was early 11/19, teams had been scheduled to play 11/19. Further helping facilitate it (by "it" I don't mean the shooting, but the intended meeting on campus with the female that lured him there), and I am a little hazy on this point, one of the NMSU hoops players had a car there, or they had a friend that came up for the game that had a car. |
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Post by Tom on Feb 13, 2023 11:15:11 GMT -5
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Post by Tom on Feb 13, 2023 11:19:09 GMT -5
That seems strange. If the NMSU guy was at UNM for a game or scrimmage (otherwise why was he on a team bus?) why was he anywhere near a dorm. I don't think visiting teams generally have a lot of alone time to wander the campus They arrived night before a game...he was lured out after curfew and snuck out. Look at their schedule, shooting was early 11/19, teams had been scheduled to play 11/19. Further helping facilitate it (by "it" I don't mean the shooting, but the intended meeting on campus with the female that lured him there), and I am a little hazy on this point, one of the NMSU hoops players had a car there, or they had a friend that came up for the game that had a car. The KFOX article I posted does not mention the timing about sneaking out after curfew, but that makes |
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Post by hc1998 on Feb 13, 2023 11:29:03 GMT -5
They arrived night before a game...he was lured out after curfew and snuck out. Look at their schedule, shooting was early 11/19, teams had been scheduled to play 11/19. Further helping facilitate it (by "it" I don't mean the shooting, but the intended meeting on campus with the female that lured him there), and I am a little hazy on this point, one of the NMSU hoops players had a car there, or they had a friend that came up for the game that had a car. The KFOX article I posted does not mention the timing about sneaking out after curfew, but that makes It pops up in some articles...prosecutors and law enforcement tend to downplay the bad acts of their victims. NMU students are charged with setting up and assaulting the shooter who was shooting in self defense. While the bad act of "breaking curfew" pales in comparison to the bad acts of the people who were setting him up, nobody wants to highlight any of his bad acts. While this axiom doesn't apply perfectly to every case, it does to many where there is some kind of relationship or interaction between defendant and victim...If the police make the defendant out to be a dirtbag, the victim likely isn't a choirboy himself |
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Post by trimster on Feb 15, 2023 8:25:44 GMT -5
New Mexico State has fired their men’s bb coach.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Feb 15, 2023 13:14:45 GMT -5
Landing spot for Nelson?
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Post by Tom on Feb 15, 2023 13:59:29 GMT -5
Well right now there is no team so no need for a coach. Had to see this one coming based on the article about the hazing
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Feb 15, 2023 15:55:31 GMT -5
I can’t imagine any AD looking at HC’s record over the past four years and saying “Brett Nelson is the guy we need to lead our program” |
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Post by HC92 on Feb 15, 2023 17:38:31 GMT -5
I can’t imagine any AD looking at HC’s record over the past four years and saying “Brett Nelson is the guy we need to lead our program” I think your sarcasm detector may need recalibration, KY! |
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Post by sader1970 on Feb 15, 2023 22:15:06 GMT -5
Where is Sarasota when you need him?!  |
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