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Post by timholycross on May 17, 2023 18:29:28 GMT -5
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on May 17, 2023 18:40:18 GMT -5
Additional proof that most all sports decision makers are doing whatever they can to destroy their sports
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Post by timholycross on May 17, 2023 18:43:23 GMT -5
At least high school ball didn't adopt the "you can advance the ball to the 28 foot line after a time out" NBA rule like the women's college game did.
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Post by bfoley82 on May 18, 2023 6:59:30 GMT -5
The women’s game flows better and the game times are faster. I believe it is the quarters and the lack of the 1 and 1. Just my observation but a D1 mens game seems to be 2:15 in game time while a women’s game is slightly under 2 hours. Both on TV also… |
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Post by nycrusader2010 on May 18, 2023 7:14:19 GMT -5
DISLIKE
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Post by Tom on May 18, 2023 8:21:30 GMT -5
I don't know how a lack of one and one could make a game go faster. At the very least, there is a potential for six fewer free throws, or six fewer times when something is happening without the clock running
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Post by bfoley82 on May 18, 2023 8:54:40 GMT -5
I don't know how a lack of one and one could make a game go faster. At the very least, there is a potential for six fewer free throws, or six fewer times when something is happening without the clock running Every free throw is at least 45 seconds to 2 minutes of downtime with subs, players resetting in the lane, etc. The lack of a second TV timeout in the women's game in each quarter (in men they have four per half) also speeds things up. |
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Post by Ignutz on May 18, 2023 9:29:04 GMT -5
Additional proof that most all sports decision makers are doing whatever they can to destroy their sports Another significant change to allegedly avoid injuries. How many players get hurt every year trying to rebound a missed free-throw?? Sports can, believe it or not, involve physical confrontation and interaction, and occasionally someone gets a boo-boo. Next thing you know, they'll be putting restrictions on football kick-offs and wrapping baseball fields with netting. Oh. wait........... |
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Post by hc1998 on May 18, 2023 10:16:16 GMT -5
Another significant change to allegedly avoid injuries. How many players get hurt every year trying to rebound a missed free-throw?? Lets assume their claim about increased injury rates is accurate...what is the injury rate associated with positioning yourself to rebound a missed free throw that winds up going in? I'd assume very low and that is the only injury this rule would prevent...otherwise there is a maximum of 1 available rebound per trip to line regardless of whether it is 1 and 1 or 2 shots (I didn't mean to make this look like Ignutz wrote it, but couldn't delete out the items I wasn't referring to any other way...so if anybody thinks my commentary is crazy, direct your wrath at me, not Ignutz) |
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Post by Ignutz on May 18, 2023 10:46:53 GMT -5
Another significant change to allegedly avoid injuries. How many players get hurt every year trying to rebound a missed free-throw?? Lets assume their claim about increased injury rates is accurate...what is the injury rate associated with positioning yourself to rebound a missed free throw that winds up going in? I'd assume very low and that is the only injury this rule would prevent...otherwise there is a maximum of 1 available rebound per trip to line regardless of whether it is 1 and 1 or 2 shots (I didn't mean to make this look like Ignutz wrote it, but couldn't delete out the items I wasn't referring to any other way...so if anybody thinks my commentary is crazy, direct your wrath at me, not Ignutz) My new ghost-writer for crazy $h|t. |
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Post by Tom on May 18, 2023 11:15:07 GMT -5
I don't know how a lack of one and one could make a game go faster. At the very least, there is a potential for six fewer free throws, or six fewer times when something is happening without the clock running Every free throw is at least 45 seconds to 2 minutes of downtime with subs, players resetting in the lane, etc. The lack of a second TV timeout in the women's game in each quarter (in men they have four per half) also speeds things up. So. . . to my point, 1 and 1's actually make the game go quicker, since there is an opportunity for not taking that second free throw. Shooting 2 when you get 10 fouls hasn't really stopped anyone from having a parade to the foul line in the closing minute of the game. Having fewer TV timeouts would certainly make the women's game move along. To me, nothing bogs down the flow of the game like instant replay. I don't go to many women's games, but I assume that is just as common for the women as the men |
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Post by timholycross on May 18, 2023 11:17:55 GMT -5
I don't know how a lack of one and one could make a game go faster. At the very least, there is a potential for six fewer free throws, or six fewer times when something is happening without the clock running Every free throw is at least 45 seconds to 2 minutes of downtime with subs, players resetting in the lane, etc. The lack of a second TV timeout in the women's game in each quarter (in men they have four per half) also speeds things up. Your second point is well taken. If the men's game changed their rules; had quarters; and only had 3 media breaks per half, even with a longer break (for more ads to even it out vis-a-vis the current format) I think that shortens the game a couple minutes not having to stop an extra time. The first point? Some games it matters, some it doesn't. If fouls 7-9 are not 1-1s (in the act of shooting and/or "and ones"), nothing is different between the two rule sets. I like having pressure on the shooter to make the first one. |
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Post by timholycross on May 18, 2023 11:24:17 GMT -5
Every free throw is at least 45 seconds to 2 minutes of downtime with subs, players resetting in the lane, etc. The lack of a second TV timeout in the women's game in each quarter (in men they have four per half) also speeds things up. So. . . to my point, 1 and 1's actually make the game go quicker, since there is an opportunity for not taking that second free throw. Shooting 2 when you get 10 fouls hasn't really stopped anyone from having a parade to the foul line in the closing minute of the game. Having fewer TV timeouts would certainly make the women's game move along. To me, nothing bogs down the flow of the game like instant replay. I don't go to many women's games, but I assume that is just as common for the women as the men One thing the NBA does infinitely better than college ball (both levels) is adjudicate clock errors in a timely fashion. Not sure how they decide those type of things so quickly, but they're right on top of it. NCAA games, even those on the highest of levels, are torture in this regard. |
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Post by Crosser on May 18, 2023 13:23:17 GMT -5
I’m not so sure about quick replay reviews in the NBA. I watch a lot of pro games and they seem to have more than their share of prolonged reviews where the announcers are scratching their heads and wondering what’s going on.
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Post by longsuffering on May 18, 2023 15:45:42 GMT -5
I’m not so sure about quick replay reviews in the NBA. I watch a lot of pro games and they seem to have more than their share of prolonged reviews where the announcers are scratching their heads and wondering what’s going on. "Wd offered them our view which shows a class A felony was committed but they didn't take it and are reviewing theirs from a poor angle which will let the visiting thug off." |
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Post by timholycross on May 18, 2023 17:00:29 GMT -5
I’m not so sure about quick replay reviews in the NBA. I watch a lot of pro games and they seem to have more than their share of prolonged reviews where the announcers are scratching their heads and wondering what’s going on. I meant the ones involving the clock specifically. They go extremely fast, sometimes you wonder how they reviewed the play so quickly. |
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Post by HC92 on May 18, 2023 21:45:12 GMT -5
Was looking up team fouls per game to try to figure out whether men’s or women’s games have more fouls. Not a huge difference but I did learn that Colgate had the fewest fouls per game in D1 men’s hoops at 12.5 per game.
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Post by Crosser on May 18, 2023 21:47:42 GMT -5
You're right. I'd forgotten about those "quick replays," which hardly seem to be replays at all - just someone coming to their senses. I was thinking of the replays where the ref goes to the monitor and sometimes brings in the other refs, and then they look at the monitor again, and then they make sure they get the shot clock correct, then go to the mike and explain their ruling - sort of. Those take a loooooong time sometimes.
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