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Post by hc87 on Jun 12, 2023 9:50:16 GMT -5
Anyone here attend?
Usually not a forum where anything big breaks....just curious who spoke, any news etc?
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Post by timholycross on Jun 12, 2023 11:01:53 GMT -5
I was there only for the picnic; my roommate heard KH talk and was quite impressed (and he's not the kind of guy that suffers fools).
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Post by longsuffering on Jun 12, 2023 11:41:22 GMT -5
I was there only for the picnic; my roommate heard KH talk and was quite impressed (and he's not the kind of guy that suffers fools). He's not a Crossports poster I assume. |
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Post by Crucis#1 on Jun 12, 2023 12:57:54 GMT -5
The Blaney Gym was at capacity for the presentation on Saturday. Nice to see the tangible support for athletic programs. Unfortunately at times it was difficult to hear some of the comments.
Planned athletic upgrades to the upper campus may take longer than 5 years to complete. Now included in the contemplated changes in the Hart Center will be an Athletic Hall of Fame with interactive displays showcasing HC’s athletic history.
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Post by purplehaze on Jun 12, 2023 13:22:20 GMT -5
was also there during my 50th reunion - nice crowd and some takeaways
= Per Crucis, it's true, it did not sound like there's any major improvements after the Fr. K field renovation - i.e. talk of converting soccer stadium into soccer/lax with a new artificial surface is not on the table - so the embarrassing lack of bathrooms at lax games will continue (really too bad) - also the location of the new softball field is identified but no timetable to move them from Freshman field
= The best NIL deal for one of our athletes has been $3500 - found that interesting - we're not in that game but the kids have an avenue thru a partnership if they want to pursue
= Kit likes where we are (ref NIL) and thinks that places like BC are in that cesspool out of necessity and are struggling to compete
= Kit emphasized that we need to seek better results across the board in the PL - inferred that some minor sports are making tangible improvements
= He said the expenses for our comprehensive program are increasing at a scary pace and they still need significant $ to fulfil all needs
= The Portal will continue to threaten us with poaching very common and we have to try and make it work for inbound recruits who might not be happy elsewhere
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Post by Crucis#1 on Jun 12, 2023 14:27:36 GMT -5
As an aside from Kit’s presentation, before going into the Blaney Gym, I notice a sizable crowd on a tour of the Luth Complex. In conversation with one of the father’s on the tour, his daughter was from a women’s ice hockey team from Newfoundland.
Encouraging to see we are continuing to reach across the northern international border for recruits.
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Post by timholycross on Jun 12, 2023 15:09:04 GMT -5
As an aside from Kit’s presentation, before going into the Blaney Gym, I notice a sizable crowd on a tour of the Luth Complex. In conversation with one of the father’s on the tour, his daughter was from women’s ice hockey team from Newfoundland. Encouraging to see we are continuing to reach across the northern international border for recruits. Keep your daughter here, bring the smoke back home w/you! |
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jun 15, 2023 10:56:41 GMT -5
was also there during my 50th reunion - nice crowd and some takeaways = Per Crucis, it's true, it did not sound like there's any major improvements after the Fr. K field renovation - i.e. talk of converting soccer stadium into soccer/lax with a new artificial surface is not on the table - so the embarrassing lack of bathrooms at lax games will continue (really too bad) - also the location of the new softball field is identified but no timetable to move them from Freshman field = The best NIL deal for one of our athletes has been $3500 - found that interesting - we're not in that game but the kids have an avenue thru a partnership if they want to pursue = Kit likes where we are (ref NIL) and thinks that places like BC are in that cesspool out of necessity and are struggling to compete = Kit emphasized that we need to seek better results across the board in the PL - inferred that some minor sports are making tangible improvements = He said the expenses for our comprehensive program are increasing at a scary pace and they still need significant $ to fulfil all needs = The Portal will continue to threaten us with poaching very common and we have to try and make it work for inbound recruits who might not be happy elsewhere Thanks for the summary of KH's remarks. (And thanks to Crucis as well.) Phreek's reading of the tea leaves, Between now and 2027-8.1.) the next priority project is the rink. They appear to have settled on a design. The renovation/expansion may be done in two phases, depending on funding. I think the Athletic Hall of Fame is probably tied into the rink expansion. (Bump-out either the north or south facades of the rink, or move the ice sheet west, and the women's locker rooms as well.) 2.) constructing the amenities concourse for the venues on top of the Hill. Between 2029 and 2033.3.) expansion of Smith stadium, and new turf for soccer and lacrosse. 4.) relocation of tennis courts. Current location of the courts likely to be put to academic use. 5.)  >indoor track somewhere, somehow 6.) >another parking garage probably nearer the Hart than Fitton (one could build an indoor track or tennis courts atop a parking garage) Between 2034 and 2043 2043 is a very key date:7.) move softball field to top of the hill 8.) >renovation of Fitton Field The is a question emoji. The emoji was not my creation. |
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Post by sader1970 on Jun 15, 2023 11:02:42 GMT -5
Hmmm🤔2043, the Holy Cross bicentennial. I just wanted to live long enough to see man walk on the moon and did that. Hopefully I can make it to 95. My uncle was in the 1943 centennial class.
Now I want to live to see the HC bicentennial. 🙏🏻🤞
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jun 15, 2023 12:27:09 GMT -5
Hmmm🤔2043, the Holy Cross bicentennial. I just wanted to live long enough to see man walk on the moon and did that. Hopefully I can make it to 95. My uncle was in the 1943 centennial class. Now I want to live to see the HC bicentennial. 🙏🏻🤞 In the Aspire 'strategic plan', there is an underlying chord that hints that the College's time horizon for this and a presumptive subsequent plan (in 8-10 years time) is what HC will be in 2043 (academic program, prestige, recognition, etc.) |
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Post by trimster on Jun 15, 2023 13:03:50 GMT -5
was also there during my 50th reunion - nice crowd and some takeaways = Per Crucis, it's true, it did not sound like there's any major improvements after the Fr. K field renovation - i.e. talk of converting soccer stadium into soccer/lax with a new artificial surface is not on the table - so the embarrassing lack of bathrooms at lax games will continue (really too bad) - also the location of the new softball field is identified but no timetable to move them from Freshman field = The best NIL deal for one of our athletes has been $3500 - found that interesting - we're not in that game but the kids have an avenue thru a partnership if they want to pursue = Kit likes where we are (ref NIL) and thinks that places like BC are in that cesspool out of necessity and are struggling to compete = Kit emphasized that we need to seek better results across the board in the PL - inferred that some minor sports are making tangible improvements = He said the expenses for our comprehensive program are increasing at a scary pace and they still need significant $ to fulfil all needs = The Portal will continue to threaten us with poaching very common and we have to try and make it work for inbound recruits who might not be happy elsewhere It sounds like some of our kids are getting NIL deals so it seems to me we are in that game. I realize the money isn't coming from HC directly and it would be very detrimental athletically to HC to tell kids not to take NIL money but this whole NIL thing just seems very unseamly to me. And of course to no ones surprise, some schools are abusing it by using it as a recruiting tool. |
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jun 15, 2023 14:03:03 GMT -5
I'd guess that at most colleges recruits and coaches patiently hold off on talking about "NIL Money", not raising the topic until right after "hello, nice the meet you".
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Post by timholycross on Jun 15, 2023 16:20:01 GMT -5
Hmmm🤔2043, the Holy Cross bicentennial. I just wanted to live long enough to see man walk on the moon and did that. Hopefully I can make it to 95. My uncle was in the 1943 centennial class. Now I want to live to see the HC bicentennial. 🙏🏻🤞 I'll be 92 and one way or another, my most recent mortgage will be paid off! |
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Post by hchoops on Jun 15, 2023 20:18:38 GMT -5
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Post by efg72 on Jun 15, 2023 20:40:19 GMT -5
Longevity is a great goal, but the future starts now for all of our sports!! Let the 💰💰💰 start pouring in - no amount is too small or too big.
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Post by longsuffering on Jun 15, 2023 22:48:20 GMT -5
I think the softball field gets the job done, although it's not cutting edge like some of the luxurious mini MLB parks you see on the ACC or SEC networks. There is a glaring discrepancy with the more developed Fitton baseball field.
But the baseball field was in the same general condition as the softball field when an outside private concern asked to turn it into a 3000 seat minor league ballpark and paid for everything. HC met it's community obligation and said yes.
But HC hasn't spent more resources on the baseball facility than the softball facility as far as I know. I hope the Title IX monitors, snoops or whatever their title is can understand that and not ding Holy Cross for the discrepancy.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jun 16, 2023 8:54:34 GMT -5
I think the softball field gets the job done, although it's not cutting edge like some of the luxurious mini MLB parks you see on the ACC or SEC networks. There is a glaring discrepancy with the more developed Fitton baseball field. But the baseball field was in the same general condition as the softball field when an outside private concern asked to turn it into a 3000 seat minor league ballpark and paid for everything. HC met it's community obligation and said yes. But HC hasn't spent more resources on the baseball facility than the softball facility as far as I know. I hope the Title IX monitors, snoops or whatever their title is can understand that and not ding Holy Cross for the discrepancy. In settling the softball team's Title IX complaint about the field's physical condition, HC committed to rectifying such. I believe this was done. Spectator seating was not an issue, although a scoreboard and PA system were part of the complaint. AFAIK, the basic reason for moving the field to the top of the hill is to install a turf surface, which would be foolish to do on Freshman Field because of flood plain issue. Presumably, the field at the top of the hill would also have lights. A turf surface and lights would significantly expand the hours that a field could be played on. |
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jun 16, 2023 9:02:50 GMT -5
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Post by hc99 on Jun 16, 2023 14:19:30 GMT -5
5.) >indoor track somewhere, somehow As a former Cross Country and Track team member, this one is so disheartening. The fieldhouse indoor track wasn't much but at least it was something. Creating makeshift lanes on the indoor turf field is not a good look for a D1 program. |
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jun 16, 2023 15:27:03 GMT -5
5.) >indoor track somewhere, somehow As a former Cross Country and Track team member, this one is so disheartening. The fieldhouse indoor track wasn't much but at least it was something. Creating makeshift lanes on the indoor turf field is not a good look for a D1 program. Back in the day, IIRC, Nate Pine looked at two options to create a dedicated indoor track. One option was the Auburn sports Complex. www.telegram.com/story/news/local/north/2014/03/02/auburn-sportsplex-shuttered/38587588007/HC supposedly looked at this facility, but deemed it too expensive to repair and convert to track/ The second options was for HC, WPI, WSU, Assumption?, Clark? high schools, prep schools to band together and jointly construct an indoor track . the proposed site was very near where the Railers' now have their practice rink. Nothing came of it. I can't remember whether they considered putting a bubble over the field hockey field. Of course, the outdoor track wouldn't be banked, and it would not be a 200 meter track. |
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Post by longsuffering on Jun 16, 2023 16:18:44 GMT -5
5.) >indoor track somewhere, somehow As a former Cross Country and Track team member, this one is so disheartening. The fieldhouse indoor track wasn't much but at least it was something. Creating makeshift lanes on the indoor turf field is not a good look for a D1 program. If you remember the many years of planning and building the Luth Center, I always understood it would have an indoor track. That's because I didn't wade through the details of the many posts and releases about it but relied on either a photo of another college athletic center that had a track or just made the assumption that any building that big and that expensive to upgrade indoor facilities would include a track. Six indoor sports didn't get as much as they might have: M&W Indoor track, M&W Swimming, M&W hockey. Basketball got a whole second gym even though HC had great teams under Willard and Gibbons, even double dancing to the NCAA tournament at least one season when M&W were sharing one gym. |
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Post by longsuffering on Jun 16, 2023 16:22:59 GMT -5
I am shuddering to think how bad MBB could have been the last four years without all the new amenities the BB programs can access.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jun 17, 2023 16:26:01 GMT -5
As a former Cross Country and Track team member, this one is so disheartening. The fieldhouse indoor track wasn't much but at least it was something. Creating makeshift lanes on the indoor turf field is not a good look for a D1 program. If you remember the many years of planning and building the Luth Center, I always understood it would have an indoor track. That's because I didn't wade through the details of the many posts and releases about it but relied on either a photo of another college athletic center that had a track or just made the assumption that any building that big and that expensive to upgrade indoor facilities would include a track. Six indoor sports didn't get as much as they might have: M&W Indoor track, M&W Swimming, M&W hockey. Basketball got a whole second gym even though HC had great teams under Willard and Gibbons, even double dancing to the NCAA tournament at least one season when M&W were sharing one gym. The original concept for what became Luth was for a 200 meter indoor track, with a multi-purpose infield. The conceptual model was Middlebury, designed by Sasaki, the architect for Luth. One of NP's first steps was to toss the Middlebury concept. They may have entertained a full 120 yard field, with sufficient sidelines to stripe it for lacrosse, soccer, and IIRC, field hockey. That became too expensive, so the field was cut to a 100 yards. That would have pushed Luth another 60-70 feet toward Figge. They couldn't push it to the south without moving a high pressure natural gas pipeline. |
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>indoor track somewhere, somehow
