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Post by drjack on Dec 10, 2023 11:13:51 GMT -5
I think it’s possible they picked up a commit this weekend. Barnes sent out his hand shake tweet. If so - great job by the staff. I do know 7 verbally committed kids were on campus. Another 7 are supposed to head up next weekend. Is Bostic still doing a visit? Or are you counting some of the unannounced commits in that 14? I think we have 3 signals unaccounted for right now? The third being Barnes' signal from this morning.
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Post by cruskater31 on Dec 10, 2023 11:14:18 GMT -5
Were there any recruits who skipped the visit this weekend?
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Post by midwestsader05 on Dec 10, 2023 11:26:19 GMT -5
I think it’s possible they picked up a commit this weekend. Barnes sent out his hand shake tweet. If so - great job by the staff. I do know 7 verbally committed kids were on campus. Another 7 are supposed to head up next weekend. Can we assume that if a kid who’s verballed is going to be on campus, then we can expect a signature from them? Seems like a lot for a kid to come to campus only to recommit. Not necessarily SOV. Several possible outcomes right now. A kid could decommit now (Bostic) and chose to wait till February signing to assess HC’s new staff and other options. Getting kids up this weekend is big, but I would guess several have been asked to another OV next week. Last voice in the kid’s/families ear can be powerful. My biggest concern right now is keeping these 7 expected to visit next weekend from backing out. Granted we still might have a shot at them come Feb. It benefited us this week IMO that the news broke Thursday and the ~7 this week just figured might as well come up.
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Post by dharry13 on Dec 10, 2023 11:51:59 GMT -5
Bostic was supposed to be up this weekend but canceled. Hopefully they get another swing at him. Yes - 3 unaccounted for signals. I think 2 of the 3 they could get. I think 1 signal is for a kid who won’t come. That’s what my gut tells me. I don’t have that confirmed.
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Post by drjack on Dec 10, 2023 12:16:34 GMT -5
I'm just hoping we can keep JPS and the skills group. JPS just looks like he'll be a beast, and that skills grouping is just insanely fast with some decent size in there.
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Post by 78purple on Dec 10, 2023 13:30:17 GMT -5
Can we assume that if a kid who’s verballed is going to be on campus, then we can expect a signature from them? Seems like a lot for a kid to come to campus only to recommit. Not necessarily SOV. Several possible outcomes right now. A kid could decommit now (Bostic) and chose to wait till February signing to assess HC’s new staff and other options. Getting kids up this weekend is big, but I would guess several have been asked to another OV next week. Last voice in the kid’s/families ear can be powerful. My biggest concern right now is keeping these 7 expected to visit next weekend from backing out. Granted we still might have a shot at them come Feb. It benefited us this week IMO that the news broke Thursday and the ~7 this week just figured might as well come up. Maybe the Thursday announcement date ( as opposed to earlier in the week, which it certainly could have been ) was something that was negotiated for exactly that reason ??
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Post by midwestsader05 on Dec 10, 2023 14:30:23 GMT -5
I really don’t think so. From everything I’ve gathered, I don’t believe Ches was their number one target, regardless of what they say now. I think Diaz was #1, but Duke opened and he went all in on them. Rutgers DC Joe Hara was second, and they got very close with him. But talks fell apart late because of money. Sunbelt (sans Liberty) just can’t compete with Big Ten coordinators right now especially if RU made Hara a counter offer. Ches was there and things changed very fast. So IMO Cross99 was accurate, but got over his skis too soon.
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Post by 78purple on Dec 10, 2023 14:53:57 GMT -5
I really don’t think so. From everything I’ve gathered, I don’t believe Ches was their number one target, regardless of what they say now. I think Diaz was #1, but Duke opened and he went all in on them. Rutgers DC Joe Hara was second, and they got very close with him. But talks fell apart late because of money. Sunbelt (sans Liberty) just can’t compete with Big Ten coordinators right now especially if RU made Hara a counter offer. Ches was there and things changed very fast. So IMO Cross99 was accurate, but got over his skis too soon. Interesting....in many ways the Sun Belt has the same respect issues in FBS that the PL has in FCS......I hope that BC has thought that through, and that upside of avoiding the FBS OC/DC stepping stone is worth the risk of a poor fit for BC ( in addition to dealing with the pre-existent high expectations which have not been present with BC's previous hires )......we'll see
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Post by midwestsader05 on Dec 10, 2023 15:31:27 GMT -5
Sun Belt is easily the 3rd best G5 conference right now far ahead of C-USA and MAC. American and Mountain West probably best 2 top to bottom but the “Fun Belt” is def closer to those 2 vs MAC/C-USA. It’s not a respect problem, it’s money that’s the problem. They don’t have a legit media rights deal yet. That’s where all the money is now for P4.
Tulane coming off first back to back double digit win seasons in school history (which leads to massive new donor $$) also has a sizeable endowment relative to other G5 which is why they were able to just poach a fellow G5 coach from Troy after only a 2 year run. Same with Liberty landing Chadwell from Coastal last year.
Ches was never going to do the OC/DC P5 route, Had zero interest.
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Post by midwestsader05 on Dec 10, 2023 15:45:46 GMT -5
I'm just hoping we can keep JPS and the skills group. JPS just looks like he'll be a beast, and that skills grouping is just insanely fast with some decent size in there. Croley important as well as the LB room only has 5 coming back next year. Very thin in numbers and unproven besides Monte. Kane is more a speciality edge OLB and not every down LB. Big Spring battle there b/t Boyer and Spin at ILB. I think Santee will be an OLB like Liam Anderson was in 2021 in our 3 LB fronts but not positive.
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Post by hcnj on Dec 10, 2023 21:24:39 GMT -5
Any insights into Ross Dansdill moving back to LB? Also, with the portal guys clearing some money, decommits, etc do you think there's a chance to get a another fullish level LB like Croley? BTW, Treadwell had a nice post wishing BC the best but thanking him for what he did for family in recruiting him to HC. Paraphrasing and guessing but left me feeling positive about keeping him. 38 TD s this season, 14 passing and 24 rushing and averaged over 10 per carry. Might throw for a few on option calls.
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Post by midwestsader05 on Dec 10, 2023 21:40:25 GMT -5
I don’t see Dansdill moving back to LB. I do think it’s possible to grab another fullish LB if some money does indeed open up from decommits.
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Post by hcnj on Dec 11, 2023 10:48:56 GMT -5
I don’t see Dansdill moving back to LB. I do think it’s possible to grab another fullish LB if some money does indeed open up from decommits. thank you
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Post by drjack on Dec 17, 2023 15:23:42 GMT -5
Hunter Watson off to Monmouth instead
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Post by hcnj on Dec 17, 2023 16:16:49 GMT -5
Thanks, let's see what we get instead.
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Post by rgs318 on Dec 17, 2023 16:20:32 GMT -5
Monmouth over HC? Clearly he does not have good judgement.
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Post by gks on Dec 17, 2023 16:56:16 GMT -5
What many people on this board fail to understand...whether it's right or wrong...kids make their decision 95% on football.
When a coach like Chesney leaves this is to be expected. How the new coach rebounds from this will be key.
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Post by gks on Dec 17, 2023 17:07:27 GMT -5
Interesting. How well did Monmouth football do in the last 6 years? Multiple championships? Who knows and who cares. Hunter's announcement says "due to recent changes"....says it all.
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Post by drjack on Dec 17, 2023 17:14:52 GMT -5
He's one I think losing Canan cost us. It happens, but it's something to keep an eye on until the first signing day
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Post by midwestsader05 on Dec 17, 2023 17:17:19 GMT -5
Why Canan? Drew didn’t recruit him or wouldn’t coach his position. He’s a DE and Canan coaches TEs.
And now that he’s gone I can say Bob was worried about keeping Watson in the boat back in late November. This was/is not surprising.
Watson will be at Monmouth 1-2 years and then in the portal for FBS.
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Post by drjack on Dec 17, 2023 17:19:10 GMT -5
Ah, my bad. I was thinking he'd be a TE.
Brain fart.
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Post by 78purple on Dec 17, 2023 17:28:19 GMT -5
Love when we get recruits who also have FBS offers....I know it can be a crapshoot but as they say 'in many ways, you are the company that you keep." An example of the kind of recruit we had no shot at 6 years ago......
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Post by cruskater31 on Dec 17, 2023 17:36:05 GMT -5
Recruiting experts: what's the procedure or protocol for a new coach coming in. Do position coaches reach out to their commits and recruits? Does the new head coach have the opportunity to reach out?
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Post by dharry13 on Dec 17, 2023 17:45:17 GMT -5
Usually 3 people. The coach who recruited the player, the position coach, and 100% Curran would reach out. I have to assume he reached out to all the kids who visited on 12/8 and any others who already took a visit - Croley, as an example.
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Post by hc17 on Dec 17, 2023 18:07:57 GMT -5
Probably too early to tell, but any word on how Coach Curran came across this weekend to the team and recruits? For better or worse, we’ll know on signing day
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