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Post by sluka4heisman on Jul 1, 2023 23:18:35 GMT -5
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Post by hchoops on Jul 2, 2023 11:09:57 GMT -5
Very insightful into who Dave Paulsen is.
A few points: “Commitment is where money goes” “We want to be portal resistant” We want a player driven program.
All of us should be excited about having this coach at HC.
Can he engage the HC students ?
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Post by longsuffering on Jul 2, 2023 13:52:44 GMT -5
Enjoyed the whole interview. Excited to have DP who is a huge upgrade at head coach. His answers are actually worth listening to for an extended interview.
However, one nit to pick. Around 7:40 Dave used "poached" to describe what I think he is referring to is actually legal activity generated by the adaption of Portal and NIL, both of which were enacted to empower student athletes and to some extent reform previous practices that gave too much control to schools and coaches. And the portal gives coaches an approved path to compete under the new rules without poaching.
Thus, I don't like the term poach to describe Portal or NIL activity because it implies students and coaches who act under those rules are doing something underhanded.
Always possible I didn't fully understand the context of that part of the conversation.
Also, I think HC's best approach to the Portal is to be "Portal Resistant" as Dave said. Let's throw four year senior driven teams at the PL and beyond year after year.
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Post by longsuffering on Jul 2, 2023 13:59:12 GMT -5
Very insightful into who Dave Paulsen is. A few points: “Commitment is where money goes” “We want to be portal resistant” We want a player driven program. All of us should be excited about having this coach at HC. Can he engage the HC students ? Commitment is where the money goes: The decision to build a practice gym over other options such as an indoor track was curious. If the cost was about the same I think a primary facility for Indoor Track might have been better than an auxiliary facility for BB. I'm sure it wasn't that simple though.
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Post by sader1970 on Jul 2, 2023 15:16:43 GMT -5
Outstanding interview and while I have many of the same observations as others have posted, here were my main takeaways: "Portal resistant" not "portal proof" is his expectation. He wants to and has been working on "engaging the alumni" (from personal experience he has); and "engaging the student body." He feels he's learned that he needs to "spend quality time with his guys off the court." He's learned "to be more patient." "Player-led teams succeed over coach-led teams." When recruiting, one of the "pillars, is passion" Finally, best expression about another coach was "he makes coffee nervous." And, yes, while he didn't bring it up, the interviewer asked him about his days coaching D-3 Williams and beating Holy Cross.
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Post by longsuffering on Jul 2, 2023 16:09:51 GMT -5
So you're saying DP is 1-0 as a head coach in the Hart Center?
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Post by sader81 on Jul 2, 2023 16:50:34 GMT -5
So you're saying DP is 1-0 as a head coach in the Hart Center? You’re forgetting the 7+ times he was there as Bucknell’s coach.
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Post by longsuffering on Jul 2, 2023 18:53:57 GMT -5
So you're saying DP is 1-0 as a head coach in the Hart Center? You’re forgetting the 7+ times he was there as Bucknell’s coach. Good catch.
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Post by cross1965 on Jul 3, 2023 8:57:49 GMT -5
Very insightful into who Dave Paulsen is. A few points: “Commitment is where money goes” “We want to be portal resistant” We want a player driven program. All of us should be excited about having this coach at HC. Can he engage the HC students
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Post by longsuffering on Jul 3, 2023 13:28:45 GMT -5
He can increase engagement with students but it will take winning to pack the Hart again. Given a full five year cycle, there is no reason HC can't be winning again and competing for the PL crown in front of raucous home crowds.
The formula isn't rocket science and he's done it before at Williams and Bucknell and just contributed to the beginning of the process a third time at Fordham.
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Post by HC92 on Jul 3, 2023 13:48:58 GMT -5
Packing the Hart Center “again” is a little misleading. Even when we were good under RW or even the latter part of GB’s tenure, the Hart was rarely packed but for a special, one-off game. And it seems even harder now to draw fans to low-mid major college hoops. I’d settle for being really good and having 2500-3000 on a regular basis. If we can get beyond that in the next 5-7 years, put DP’s statue out front next to Cousy’s.
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Post by sader1970 on Jul 3, 2023 14:54:31 GMT -5
Hart basketball capacity listed as 3,536. I'm guessing in 3-4 years we'll be averaging 3,000 a game. That, to me, is "packed" while not SRO which would happen for championship games and wonder if DP can coax some not-so-terrible non-league opponents to our place when they realize their ranking won't take a hit just being on the same court with the Crusaders. I have a lot of faith in NADII.
A wise person once told me when looking to hire someone, "look for past patterns of success." He's got that.
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Post by efg72 on Jul 3, 2023 15:02:03 GMT -5
Packing the Hart Center “again” is a little misleading. Even when we were good under RW or even the latter part of GB’s tenure, the Hart was rarely packed but for a special, one-off game. And it seems even harder now to draw fans to low-mid major college hoops. I’d settle for being really good and having 2500-3000 on a regular basis. If we can get beyond that in the next 5-7 years, put DP’s statue out front next to Cousy’s. That is a reason to become Worcester’s team for sports. Football can grow attendance to 15k and hoops to 2500-3400 as we continue to work on building community support A win over BC this year in football might jump start the growth in our fan base. Hoops is a three year effort unless there is conference realignment in the future.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Jul 3, 2023 16:09:02 GMT -5
Packing the Hart Center “again” is a little misleading. Even when we were good under RW or even the latter part of GB’s tenure, the Hart was rarely packed but for a special, one-off game. And it seems even harder now to draw fans to low-mid major college hoops. I’d settle for being really good and having 2500-3000 on a regular basis. If we can get beyond that in the next 5-7 years, put DP’s statue out front next to Cousy’s. It was pretty packed for a decent number of games from 2006-2008 for sure. 06-07 the following regular season games for sure were at the point where both student sections would completely fill up and late-arriving students would be sent up to the rafters. Fairfield Siena Lafayette (homecoming) Lehigh (ESPNU Friday night game) Bucknell game was over break that year 07-08 St Joes Hofstra Bucknell Northeastern (Bracketbuster) 08-09 American was the only home game I remember being that packed student-wise until the PL semi against Colgate. 09-10 This was the year that Hart Center home crowds really started the decline. Only home game that was really crowded that I remember was the Harvard opener "The Jeremy Lin game". Believe it or not, the best regular season home atmosphere I remember was the Bucknell game for Winter Homecoming in January 2011. You couldn't hear yourself think. Muscala was on that Bucknell team and we lost on a conventional 3-pt play with under 10 seconds left IIRC.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Jul 3, 2023 16:33:45 GMT -5
The Keister game against Bucknell takes the cake for most packed and raucous crowd and you can’t convince me otherwise.
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Post by hchoops on Aug 26, 2023 10:40:05 GMT -5
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Aug 26, 2023 10:42:20 GMT -5
The Keister game against Bucknell takes the cake for most packed and raucous crowd and you can’t convince me otherwise. I concur. A friend of mine who played volleyball at HC summed it up. "I was captain of a varsity sports team here and was never more excited at a school athletic event."
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Post by HC92 on Aug 26, 2023 11:12:28 GMT -5
Hopefully we’ll have some games in the next couple of years that we’ll remember as some of the most raucous crowds ever at Hart.
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Post by Ignutz on Aug 28, 2023 15:15:49 GMT -5
I'm assuming that this discussion is Patriot League era games.
Prior thereto, there were a number of huge games with great (and raucous) crowds in the Hart's first ten years or so. One spectacular post-Perry/Vicens/Potter game was a Saturday afternoon affair on NBC in 1990 featuring a battle between Lionel Simmons and #17 LaSalle against a (Dr.) Jim Nairus-led HC squad. Unfortunately the 'Saders fell that day, (84-81). This and the referenced Bucknell game (2007?) are the only games that I can recall matching the early years' games at the Hart. ,
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Aug 29, 2023 7:02:52 GMT -5
The 2003 PL title PREGAME atmosphere (against AU) was the wildest I can remember. Hart practically full with students over an hour before tip-off.
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Post by hchoops on Aug 29, 2023 7:51:12 GMT -5
The 2003 PL title PREGAME atmosphere (against AU) was the wildest I can remember. Hart practically full with students over an hour before tip-off. Totally agree. This was my favorite Hart experience. And of course, the victory made it perfect. RW posed for a post win photo with his classmates who attended. My son was one of the managers.
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Post by WCHC Sports on Aug 29, 2023 13:59:59 GMT -5
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Aug 29, 2023 15:27:00 GMT -5
I'm assuming that this discussion is Patriot League era games. Prior thereto, there were a number of huge games with great (and raucous) crowds in the Hart's first ten years or so. One spectacular post-Perry/Vicens/Potter game was a Saturday afternoon affair on NBC in 1990 featuring a battle between Lionel Simmons and #17 LaSalle against a (Dr.) Jim Nairus-led HC squad. Unfortunately the 'Saders fell that day, (84-81). This and the referenced Bucknell game (2007?) are the only games that I can recall matching the early years' games at the Hart. , The game SOV is referencing I THINK is the January 2011 Winter Homecoming game at Hart.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Aug 29, 2023 16:00:13 GMT -5
I'm assuming that this discussion is Patriot League era games. Prior thereto, there were a number of huge games with great (and raucous) crowds in the Hart's first ten years or so. One spectacular post-Perry/Vicens/Potter game was a Saturday afternoon affair on NBC in 1990 featuring a battle between Lionel Simmons and #17 LaSalle against a (Dr.) Jim Nairus-led HC squad. Unfortunately the 'Saders fell that day, (84-81). This and the referenced Bucknell game (2007?) are the only games that I can recall matching the early years' games at the Hart. , The game SOV is referencing I THINK is the January 2011 Winter Homecoming game at Hart. It was this game: www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/game/_/gameId/280180107
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