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Post by Xmassader on Oct 18, 2023 21:51:01 GMT -5
In the 26 post season games completed so far, the team that scored first led the rest of the way and won (19 Ws). In the 7 games where the team that scored second won the game, that team never trailed after once gaining the lead. In short, 0 for 26 in “back & forth” games with more than 1 lead change. I’ll go out on a limb and guess that has never happened before in a post season of 20 or more games.
And it’s about to be 0 for 27 if the Astros who scored first tonight hold on to a 3 run lead going into the 9th inning.
Amazing!
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Post by timholycross on Oct 19, 2023 8:18:56 GMT -5
Only a couple of the 7 games mentioned by xmassader would even be considered comebacks; the leads were small and erased after a few innings.
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Post by WCHC Sports on Oct 19, 2023 8:22:33 GMT -5
Wait, they're still playing baseball? It's cold outside!
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Post by Tom on Oct 19, 2023 8:42:54 GMT -5
We haven't even figured out who's going to the World Series yet. Game 1 is a week from tomorrow.
By contrast, World Series game 7 when Bill Mazeroski hit arguably the coolest home run in the history of the game happened on Oct 13
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Post by rgs318 on Oct 19, 2023 9:03:53 GMT -5
I remember that home run. When the Yankees won it was by a large number of runs, but the Pirates got by in their wins with "just enough." I still feel the Yanks were the better team overall. My uncle, a life long Yankee fan, sulked over that for weeks.  |
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Post by WCHC Sports on Oct 19, 2023 9:20:26 GMT -5
We haven't even figured out who's going to the World Series yet. Game 1 is a week from tomorrow. By contrast, World Series game 7 when Bill Mazeroski hit arguably the coolest home run in the history of the game happened on Oct 13 Too many teams make the playoffs. They don't want the "randomness" of short series, or one game eliminations. Yet, that provided a lot of intrigue as the playoffs/Wild Card initially expanded in the 21st century. It doesn't work on me; i'm a weird fan. While I can watch nearly any football game, playoff hockey, good NBA match ups, but I can't watch baseball if it isn't the Yanks....I can watch every inning of every Yankee game every season, but I may have willingly watched about ten innings of my life that weren't highlights of other teams playing. |
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Post by alum on Oct 19, 2023 10:36:26 GMT -5
We haven't even figured out who's going to the World Series yet. Game 1 is a week from tomorrow. By contrast, World Series game 7 when Bill Mazeroski hit arguably the coolest home run in the history of the game happened on Oct 13 I can never pass up a mention of this guy. May have been a great home run, but he still doesn't belong in the HOF. His career line: .260/.299/.367/.667 OPS +---84!!!!! Highest MVP voting: 8 (only one other with votes--23rd) I understand that he was a defensive whiz, but that was at second base---you know, the place they put the coach's kid who can't make the throw from short or third on your child's youth baseball team.  Bill Mazeroski is in the HOF and Dwight Evans is not.  It is a great home run and his celebration while running the bases is world class. |
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Post by Tom on Oct 19, 2023 11:01:50 GMT -5
We haven't even figured out who's going to the World Series yet. Game 1 is a week from tomorrow. By contrast, World Series game 7 when Bill Mazeroski hit arguably the coolest home run in the history of the game happened on Oct 13 Too many teams make the playoffs. They don't want the "randomness" of short series, or one game eliminations. Yet, that provided a lot of intrigue as the playoffs/Wild Card initially expanded in the 21st century. It doesn't work on me; i'm a weird fan. While I can watch nearly any football game, playoff hockey, good NBA match ups, but I can't watch baseball if it isn't the Yanks....I can watch every inning of every Yankee game every season, but I may have willingly watched about ten innings of my life that weren't highlights of other teams playing. Before my time, one in eight teams per league went to the post season. When MLB expanded to 12 teams per league they went to divisions so the ratio dropped to one in six (actually as low as one in 10 for most of the 60's). We have now climbed to 40 percent make the post season. A far cry from the the 12 percent of days gone by. |
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Post by Tom on Oct 19, 2023 11:05:08 GMT -5
Evans has better stats than Mazeroski. On the other hand, every baseball fans knows Mazeroski's name. Not sure I can say that about Evans
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Post by sader1970 on Oct 19, 2023 11:35:25 GMT -5
He owns the restaurant, Bob Evans, right? |
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Post by timholycross on Oct 19, 2023 12:41:57 GMT -5
Great heads-up baserunning move by Mantle that led to the game being tied:
"Although he got Roger Maris to foul out, Haddix gave up a key single to Mickey Mantle that scored Richardson and moved Long to third. Yogi Berra followed, hitting a sharp grounder to first, with Rocky Nelson easily getting the second out. In what, at the moment, appeared to be a monumental play, Mantle, seeing he had no chance to beat a play at second, faked a step toward second base and then dove head-first back to first, narrowly avoiding Nelson's tag (which would have been the third out) as Gil McDougald (pinch-running for Long) raced home to tie the game at 9-9.[8] Had Mantle been out on the play, the run would likely not have counted since the play happened so quickly that the runner on third might not have crossed the plate before the out was recorded. With Mantle safe, the inning continued, but ended when Bill Skowron hit into a force play."
You have to have great instincts on a play that starts out with you being forced to go to the next base to head back to the base you started from (because the force was taken off).
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Post by Crucis#1 on Oct 19, 2023 16:35:20 GMT -5
The Father of a Holy Cross Alum is currently managing in the 2023 MLB Post Season. Salvatore Anthony (Torey) Lovullo, whose son Nick played at HC.
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Post by WorcesterGray on Oct 19, 2023 18:12:13 GMT -5
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Post by longsuffering on Oct 19, 2023 21:06:34 GMT -5
This was pre-batting helmet days. I remember being shocked that the Yankees could lose, I was a Red Sox fan but thought the Yankees were ten feet tall.
World Series games were played on weekday afternoons back then. Draper Corp. had a huge factory in Hopedale, MA, which was truly a factory town, and they would allow the radio broadcast of each year's World Series games to be played throughout the factory. The workers really looked forward to that.
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Post by rgs318 on Oct 20, 2023 6:48:47 GMT -5
I do remember if we were good that sister would play the game on the radio in the afternoon at St Joseph Grammar School. No behavior problems ever during the world series. Then we would race home on our bicycles to catch the last few inings on our B+W televisions. |
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Post by timholycross on Oct 21, 2023 6:35:39 GMT -5
In the 26 post season games completed so far, the team that scored first led the rest of the way and won (19 Ws). In the 7 games where the team that scored second won the game, that team never trailed after once gaining the lead. In short, 0 for 26 in “back & forth” games with more than 1 lead change. I’ll go out on a limb and guess that has never happened before in a post season of 20 or more games. And it’s about to be 0 for 27 if the Astros who scored first tonight hold on to a 3 run lead going into the 9th inning. Amazing! Last night (Friday) sure made up for that. First time two games on the same day featured 8th inning comebacks. |
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Post by Tom on Oct 25, 2023 11:21:23 GMT -5
Two wildcard teams square off in the World Series. Neither one was the highest seed wild card for their league. The NLCS also had two wildcards. Tough post season for the teams that excelled in the regular season
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Post by hchoops on Oct 25, 2023 12:12:14 GMT -5
Two wildcard teams square off in the World Series. Neither one was the highest seed wild card for their league. The NLCS also had two wildcards. Tough post season for the teams that excelled in the regular season This is what happens when the greed to make more teams, more playoff rounds, more games, and thus more money prevails. |
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Post by alum on Oct 25, 2023 14:49:22 GMT -5
I read that the "Dallas Rangers" made the World Series. (I am more inclined to believe the guy who tweeted that failed to properly supervise his staff than to assume he is a phony, but who knows for sure) Also, a couple of days ago, Chris "Mad Dog" Russo promised to retire if the Diamondbacks won the NLCS. Shockingly, he has already weasled out of this promise. |
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Post by WCHC Sports on Oct 25, 2023 15:06:02 GMT -5
Two wildcard teams square off in the World Series. Neither one was the highest seed wild card for their league. The NLCS also had two wildcards. Tough post season for the teams that excelled in the regular season Great point. When you have more Wild Card teams than division winners, the chances are higher that a Wild Card team will advance! |
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Post by WCHC Sports on Oct 25, 2023 15:07:12 GMT -5
Tough to pick a team to root for (as always for this fan). The Rangers were a pretty strong Yankee playoff rival during their Ron Washington-led days... but the Arizona Diamondbacks still have THE most un-American World Series win in history, breaking my heart further in 2001.
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Post by timholycross on Oct 25, 2023 16:32:02 GMT -5
Two wildcard teams square off in the World Series. Neither one was the highest seed wild card for their league. The NLCS also had two wildcards. Tough post season for the teams that excelled in the regular season Great point. When you have more Wild Card teams than division winners, the chances are higher that a Wild Card team will advance! ...truth be told, Houston and the Astros had the same record. Had there been no wild cards, there would have been a playoff game (Houston won the division by winning the season's series w/the Rangers). Not the same as the Dodgers winning the West by a wide margin and then faltering against the team they were clearly better than all year. The Rangers/Senators are the only early 60s expansion team (1961) to never win a World Series. The only original team with a longer drought are the Indians/Guardians (1948). Not a lot of successful DC teams over the years, but at least the other two teams won it. |
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Post by hchoops on Oct 25, 2023 18:05:44 GMT -5
Tough to pick a team to root for (as always for this fan). The Rangers were a pretty strong Yankee playoff rival during their Ron Washington-led days... but the Arizona Diamondbacks still have THE most un-American World Series win in history, breaking my heart further in 2001. Root for the team whose manager is the father of a Crusader baseball player. |
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Nov 2, 2023 5:22:28 GMT -5
Tough to pick a team to root for (as always for this fan). The Rangers were a pretty strong Yankee playoff rival during their Ron Washington-led days... but the Arizona Diamondbacks still have THE most un-American World Series win in history, breaking my heart further in 2001. As a Yankee fan, the 2001 run would've been by far the most awesome win of that whole run had they been able to close out Game 7. Crazy stat -- after throwing the wet ball into center field on the bunt (it briefly rained in between innings), Mo committed exactly ONE more error over the remaining 12 years of his career. That damn rain shower in the desert + Brosius not looking to throw to 1st for the DP on the next bunt. Oh well. Statistically, the DBacks owned that World Series. Before the fateful last inning, Buck and McCarver were comparing a potential Yankee win to the 1960 Yanks-Pirates series where the Yankees dominated in every category but Bucs managed to win the close games to take 4 of 7 on Maz walkoff. |
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Post by WCHC Sports on Nov 2, 2023 8:14:19 GMT -5
Tough to pick a team to root for (as always for this fan). The Rangers were a pretty strong Yankee playoff rival during their Ron Washington-led days... but the Arizona Diamondbacks still have THE most un-American World Series win in history, breaking my heart further in 2001. As a Yankee fan, the 2001 run would've been by far the most awesome win of that whole run had they been able to close out Game 7. Crazy stat -- after throwing the wet ball into center field on the bunt (it briefly rained in between innings), Mo committed exactly ONE more error over the remaining 12 years of his career. That damn rain shower in the desert + Brosius not looking to throw to 1st for the DP on the next bunt. Oh well. Statistically, the DBacks owned that World Series. Before the fateful last inning, Buck and McCarver were comparing a potential Yankee win to the 1960 Yanks-Pirates series where the Yankees dominated in every category but Bucs managed to win the close games to take 4 of 7 on Maz walkoff. 96, 98, 99, 2000, 2001, and a 2003 appearance would have been perhaps the best run EVER, and very unlikely to be topped. As it stands now, it's already pretty unassailable. But yes, that '01 four-peat after 9/11 would have been off-the-charts satisfying. |
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