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Post by midwestsader05 on Dec 10, 2023 15:36:50 GMT -5
x.com/SamHerderFCS/status/1733948044356260220?s=20WOW. And they are heading to Semis at Montana this week! “NDSU football head coach Matt Entz has accepted a coaching job at another school. Entz will inform his team during a meeting today at 3 pm. It has not been confirmed where the head coach is going.”
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Post by rgs318 on Dec 10, 2023 15:40:47 GMT -5
Unfreal that they would allow this to leak out befire the players were even told.
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Post by drjack on Dec 10, 2023 16:30:57 GMT -5
LB coach at USC.
You know, maybe it's a good thing we didn't make the playoffs. I would be fuming if BC left us in the middle of playoffs.
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Post by cruskater31 on Dec 10, 2023 16:31:36 GMT -5
Can he finish coaching the postseason? That is interesting. Really throwing your team under the bus. Hope for the Bizon he told them before the leak.
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Post by midwestsader05 on Dec 10, 2023 16:35:46 GMT -5
He will finish the season before heading to LA. The dispersion in money between P4 and most G5 (much less FCS) is going to force everyone to reset their expectations.
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Post by cruskater31 on Dec 10, 2023 16:37:57 GMT -5
He will finish the season before heading to LA. The dispersion in money between P4 and most G5 (much less FCS) is going to force everyone to reset their expectations. I still find it hard to believe that a P4 position coach would make more than a top flight FCS coach. That should change! Surprised the Montanas, Dakota, etc would not pay more. I can see the OC/DC at a P4 making more, but position coach? Bet the weather will be better!
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Dec 10, 2023 16:45:55 GMT -5
A lot of NDSU fans don’t like Entz and won’t be mad to see him leave.
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Post by midwestsader05 on Dec 10, 2023 16:49:41 GMT -5
He will finish the season before heading to LA. The dispersion in money between P4 and most G5 (much less FCS) is going to force everyone to reset their expectations. I still find it hard to believe that a P4 position coach would make more than a top flight FCS coach. That should change! Surprised the Montanas, Dakota, etc would not pay more. I can see the OC/DC at a P4 making more, but position coach? Bet the weather will be better! It’s actuallly not close any longer at a USC type. Texas A&M just hired Sean Spencer as DL coach (Holy Cross DL coach in 2004) for 1M a year base.
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Post by jkh67 on Dec 10, 2023 17:01:59 GMT -5
I still find it hard to believe that a P4 position coach would make more than a top flight FCS coach. That should change! Surprised the Montanas, Dakota, etc would not pay more. I can see the OC/DC at a P4 making more, but position coach? Bet the weather will be better! It’s actuallly not close any longer at a USC type. Texas A&M just hired Sean Spencer as DL coach (Holy Cross DL coach in 2004) for 1M a year base. Total and complete insanity, no!?!
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Post by drjack on Dec 10, 2023 17:03:19 GMT -5
I think the FSU snub really proved it's a P2 at this point, and the money is going to be absurd at those schools relative to us and G5 schools.
Still, what fantastically stupid timing for this announcement.
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Post by jkh67 on Dec 10, 2023 17:20:05 GMT -5
It isn't about Chesney guys, it is the potential impact the decision has on the program for the next few years Recruiting is the future of the program. This year we lose over 30 players from the roster and I am not sure where the quality replacements come from during a first and second signing period givenlikely decommits and admissions view of the portal. Great six years but I am concerned about the next four years As Casey Stengel modestly observed after leading the Yankees to their fifth successive World Series championship in 1953, "I couldn't have done it without the players". Recruiting is the key to success, whether you're talking about professional sports, the big time FBS boys, or even small time stages like HC. Chesney proved it is possible to attract high quality athletes to Mt. Saint James and to convert a flailing football program into an attractive winner. His successor will have major challenges maintaining that positive momentum, whoever he turns out to be. The next few years could well be disappointing, but that won't be the end of the world. It's only a game after all.
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Post by sader1970 on Dec 10, 2023 17:30:33 GMT -5
Agree whole heartedly and why my preference is a coach like BC who has a dynamic, charismatic personality besides football knowledge in order to attract and retain top player talent. One of my Classmates joked with me that maybe Belichick might be available for our open position. Whether you think he’s a football genius or lived off of Brady’s talent, for me, he’s exactly what we don’t want. He’s probably not the kind of guy you’d want to have a beer with . . . . . unless he’s offering you a multi-million dollar contract.
My vote is for Chris Smith who knows Holy Cross as alum and relatively long time Crusader assistant coach and really seems to know not only football but what makes our players tick. “Smitty” seems to be well liked and, more importantly, well respected, by the current players which would likely be exportable to new recruits. JMO.
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Post by 78purple on Dec 10, 2023 19:00:05 GMT -5
It isn't about Chesney guys, it is the potential impact the decision has on the program for the next few years Recruiting is the future of the program. This year we lose over 30 players from the roster and I am not sure where the quality replacements come from during a first and second signing period givenlikely decommits and admissions view of the portal. Great six years but I am concerned about the next four years As Casey Stengel modestly observed after leading the Yankees to their fifth successive World Series championship in 1953, "I couldn't have done it without the players". Recruiting is the key to success, whether you're talking about professional sports, the big time FBS boys, or even small time stages like HC. Chesney proved it is possible to attract high quality athletes to Mt. Saint James and to convert a flailing football program into an attractive winner. His successor will have major challenges maintaining that positive momentum, whoever he turns out to be. The next few years could well be disappointing, but that won't be the end of the world. It's only a game after all. Well, we only have to look at SDS thus far this year ,with their regime change, to see that excellence can be maintained with the proper successor
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Post by 78purple on Dec 10, 2023 19:01:48 GMT -5
LB coach at USC. You know, maybe it's a good thing we didn't make the playoffs. I would be fuming if BC left us in the middle of playoffs. Yeah, but I'd like to think that BC/KH would have finessed a little better than this....
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Post by midwestsader05 on Dec 10, 2023 19:07:45 GMT -5
As Casey Stengel modestly observed after leading the Yankees to their fifth successive World Series championship in 1953, "I couldn't have done it without the players". Recruiting is the key to success, whether you're talking about professional sports, the big time FBS boys, or even small time stages like HC. Chesney proved it is possible to attract high quality athletes to Mt. Saint James and to convert a flailing football program into an attractive winner. His successor will have major challenges maintaining that positive momentum, whoever he turns out to be. The next few years could well be disappointing, but that won't be the end of the world. It's only a game after all. Well, we only have to look at SDS thus far this year ,with their regime change, to see that excellence can be maintained with the proper successor I think Jimmy Rodgers will do well but this year had less to do with him as a successor and more so returning 18 of 22 starters from a national championship team, including seven all Americans. Next 1-3 years will be more revealing for him.
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Post by 78purple on Dec 10, 2023 19:09:58 GMT -5
Well, we only have to look at SDS thus far this year ,with their regime change, to see that excellence can be maintained with the proper successor I think Jimmy Rodgers will do well but this year had less to do with him as a successor and more so returning 18 of 22 starters from a national championship team, including seven all Americans. Next 1-3 years will be more revealing for him. agreed
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Post by mm67 on Dec 10, 2023 19:30:11 GMT -5
Crossports posters are looking for a coach who will keep HC competitive nationally. Competitive w/in the PL might satisfy some in the administration & some HC fans, too. Competitive in the PL but not nationally would have some posters screaming bloody murder and calling for the coach's head. Is it realistic to demand HC compete as an FCS national power?
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Post by 78purple on Dec 10, 2023 19:46:15 GMT -5
Crossports posters are looking for a coach who will keep HC competitive nationally. Competitive w/in the PL might satisfy some in the administration & some HC fans, too. Competitive in the PL but not nationally would have some posters screaming bloody murder and calling for the coach's head. Is it realistic to demand HC compete as an FCS national power? yes
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Post by saderfan1998 on Dec 10, 2023 19:55:48 GMT -5
Crossports posters are looking for a coach who will keep HC competitive nationally. Competitive w/in the PL might satisfy some in the administration & some HC fans, too. Competitive in the PL but not nationally would have some posters screaming bloody murder and calling for the coach's head. Is it realistic to demand HC compete as an FCS national power? yes Agree…”yup”
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Post by td128 on Dec 10, 2023 19:57:29 GMT -5
Should not be too challenging to observe what is possible when a true “commitment to excellence in winning on and off the field” is embraced.
The college displays a lot of excellence on and off the field both from a team and individual standpoint with all of the accompanying benefits that accrue in the process, with much of those benefits shared broadly via an array of media outlets.
It’s important to compete but before competing is the willingness to truly commit and in these pursuits “commit to excellence”. Accepting anything less than that is a willingness to accept some form of mediocrity.
“Commitment to mediocrity”? I have no interest in that.
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Post by mm67 on Dec 10, 2023 20:16:56 GMT -5
The comments prove my point. This in no way is a criticism overt or implied. It was an opinion based on what I have read on this board. Peace.
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Post by gks on Dec 10, 2023 20:17:21 GMT -5
It’s actuallly not close any longer at a USC type. Texas A&M just hired Sean Spencer as DL coach (Holy Cross DL coach in 2004) for 1M a year base. Total and complete insanity, no!?! Why? For the amount of money the football program brings in at A&M coaches should be compensated.
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Post by gks on Dec 10, 2023 20:19:18 GMT -5
Crossports posters are looking for a coach who will keep HC competitive nationally. Competitive w/in the PL might satisfy some in the administration & some HC fans, too. Competitive in the PL but not nationally would have some posters screaming bloody murder and calling for the coach's head. Is it realistic to demand HC compete as an FCS national power? Every aspect of the school has the resources and should have the will to compete nationally.
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Post by Chu Chu on Dec 10, 2023 20:32:07 GMT -5
Agree whole heartedly and why my preference is a coach like BC who has a dynamic, charismatic personality besides football knowledge in order to attract and retain top player talent. One of my Classmates joked with me that maybe Belichick might be available for our open position. Whether you think he’s a football genius or lived off of Brady’s talent, for me, he’s exactly what we don’t want. He’s probably not the kind of guy you’d want to have a beer with . . . . . unless he’s offering you a multi-million dollar contract. My vote is for Chris Smith who knows Holy Cross as alum and relatively long time Crusader assistant coach and really seems to know not only football but what makes our players tick. “Smitty” seems to be well liked and, more importantly, well respected, by the current players which would likely be exportable to new recruits. JMO. The obvious rub against Chris Smith is that he has no head coaching experience. I think the main deficit that engenders is in having no experience managing a large staff and all of the administrative work responsibility that goes into being a head coach. Fortunately, Chris has the benefit of an outstanding liberal arts education, and that means he knows how to learn!
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Post by cruskater31 on Dec 10, 2023 21:09:44 GMT -5
Agree whole heartedly and why my preference is a coach like BC who has a dynamic, charismatic personality besides football knowledge in order to attract and retain top player talent. One of my Classmates joked with me that maybe Belichick might be available for our open position. Whether you think he’s a football genius or lived off of Brady’s talent, for me, he’s exactly what we don’t want. He’s probably not the kind of guy you’d want to have a beer with . . . . . unless he’s offering you a multi-million dollar contract. My vote is for Chris Smith who knows Holy Cross as alum and relatively long time Crusader assistant coach and really seems to know not only football but what makes our players tick. “Smitty” seems to be well liked and, more importantly, well respected, by the current players which would likely be exportable to new recruits. JMO. The obvious rub against Chris Smith is that he has no head coaching experience. I think the main deficit that engenders is in having no experience managing a large staff and all of the administrative work responsibility that goes into being a head coach. Fortunately, Chris has the benefit of an outstanding liberal arts education, and that means he knows how to learn! that is also where having strong leadership from someone like Scott James certainly helps. He now has some insight as well into how an NFL organization is run. I think Chris' personality and ability to connect with players and recruits is unmatched. Hard to find the enthusiasm of someone who bleeds purple. The Bill Belichick type doesn't work with NCAA programs and high schools very often any more. Stark contrast in coching styles exhibited at the Army-Navy game yesterday. Not sure I am a fan of Reno for this reason but I like him better than Murphy. Get a little of it from Toerper but perhaps not as exuberant as Ches or Smitty. I would rather bet on a team with less than quality players say 1 star recruits coached by Ches than a team with 3 star recruits and a dour luddite as coach. I think to myself, who woupd I go to war for?
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