cross99
Climbing Mt. St. James
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Post by cross99 on Dec 1, 2023 11:34:03 GMT -5
Chesney isn’t even on a list for JMU. Let’s move on. This exhausting and pointless. Sure - Syracuse I get. There was smoke there. But are we going to post every job that opens. If there is anything concrete then let’s entertain it. It is exhausting, however it is the blessing/curse of having a very highly respected and coveted head coach. I would bet that BC will be vetted by JMU. However, I don't think his desire to leave HC is so great that he would put himself through the interview process again this year. Unless there is a SERIOUS monetary upside. No inside info, just my 2 cents.
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Post by purplehaze on Dec 1, 2023 12:16:40 GMT -5
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Post by dharry13 on Dec 1, 2023 12:35:57 GMT -5
There was an update to that with him further down the list. It’s based on his Syracuse interview.
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Post by drjack on Dec 1, 2023 12:39:34 GMT -5
It's worth keeping in mind though until we hear their list of candidates, imo.
Either way, I'll be monitoring as best I can. They want to announce at their bowl game in a couple weeks, so we should hopefully know one way or the other soon.
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Post by 78purple on Dec 1, 2023 12:52:51 GMT -5
I bet Poindexter is on the fast track there....He's a legend in Virginia and will be able to keep the Tidewater recruits in Virginia.......the Penn State pedigree doesn't hurt either.......lets hope so...
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Post by Crucis#1 on Dec 1, 2023 21:25:07 GMT -5
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Post by 78purple on Dec 2, 2023 10:23:31 GMT -5
And JMU QB McCloud just entered the portal......so they have a QB/HC need immediately........
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Dec 2, 2023 11:55:21 GMT -5
Former HC assistant coach.
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Post by drjack on Dec 2, 2023 12:03:18 GMT -5
Looks like we'll know the JMU coach soon
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Post by 78purple on Dec 2, 2023 13:14:02 GMT -5
Looks like we'll know the JMU coach soon BC couldn't have possibly made a trip to Harrisonburg for an interview in such a short time window
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Post by drjack on Dec 2, 2023 13:22:36 GMT -5
I think it's Diaz if they're hiring today. They've been tracking flights and one landed from State College yesterday evening.
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Post by 78purple on Dec 2, 2023 14:10:32 GMT -5
I think it's Diaz if they're hiring today. They've been tracking flights and one landed from State College yesterday evening. or Poindexter
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Post by drjack on Dec 2, 2023 14:19:55 GMT -5
Well now it may not be either of them
I haven't seen anything to indicate the schools targeted Chesney, but he's definitely being talked about by a number of their fans who want him. At this point, he may just be the easy name to list as a potential hire for any somewhat relevant opening.
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Post by hcpride on Dec 2, 2023 14:20:32 GMT -5
FBS OC/DC is the usual route to these HC FBS positions (like JMU) and BC is not even qualified for FBS OC/DC. So we can relax regarding BC as FBS HC hire absent highly unusual circumstances.
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Post by drjack on Dec 2, 2023 20:48:55 GMT -5
This has been quite the search to follow
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Post by longsuffering on Dec 3, 2023 0:22:06 GMT -5
FBS OC/DC is the usual route to these HC FBS positions (like JMU) and BC is not even qualified for FBS OC/DC. So we can relax regarding BC as FBS HC hire absent highly unusual circumstances. He's qualified for either. Three turn-arounds at three straight schools approving or disapproving everything his OCs and DCs propose is evidence of that. FBS doesn't have a longer field or a different set of rules. ADs afraid to risk hiring outside the standard pattern is a possibility, I'll grant you that.
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Post by longsuffering on Dec 3, 2023 0:39:54 GMT -5
I am hopeful that the Syracuse interest causes BC to conclude that he can wait for another Power 5 job as opposed to making an earlier jump to a Group of 4 school. Again I ask, do we have confirmation that he was approached by Syracuse and/or had interest in the Syracuse job?? Absolutely no contact is necessary for fifteen pages of speculation. Don't forget HC won five fewer games this year than last year and were not a playoff team. FBS ADs don't have the same cover to hire outside the box as they did last year when HC concluded a fifth straight year of continued improvement and got further in the post-season than ever before in school history. We know Chesney is as good a coach this year as last year but as the Big Tuna said, you are what your record says you are. FBS AD: "I just gave a five year guaranteed contract to a 7-4 FCS coach who didn't make the playoffs." You don't play the game well enough to reach FBS AD and then roll the dice on a move with your name all over it. Or at least I hope not.
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Post by timholycross on Dec 3, 2023 9:31:01 GMT -5
Again I ask, do we have confirmation that he was approached by Syracuse and/or had interest in the Syracuse job?? Absolutely no contact is necessary for fifteen pages of speculation. Don't forget HC won five fewer games this year than last year and were not a playoff team. FBS ADs don't have the same cover to hire outside the box as they did last year when HC concluded a fifth straight year of continued improvement and got further in the post-season than ever before in school history. We know Chesney is as good a coach this year as last year but as the Big Tuna said, you are what your record says you are. FBS AD: "I just gave a five year guaranteed contract to a 7-4 FCS coach who didn't make the playoffs." You don't play the game well enough to reach FBS AD and then roll the dice on a move with your name all over it. Or at least I hope not. Yeah, same as the playoff committee, those "oh so close" losses to Army and BC aren't going to sell BC's candidacy.
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Post by hcpride on Dec 3, 2023 10:59:20 GMT -5
FBS OC/DC is the usual route to these HC FBS positions (like JMU) and BC is not even qualified for FBS OC/DC. So we can relax regarding BC as FBS HC hire absent highly unusual circumstances. He's qualified for either. Three turn-arounds at three straight schools approving or disapproving everything his OCs and DCs propose is evidence of that. FBS doesn't have a longer field or a different set of rules. ADs afraid to risk hiring outside the standard pattern is a possibility, I'll grant you that. Qualified in the sense that fans, donors, and ADs view it. (Objectively he may have the skills for FBS head coach or OC/DC). Imagine the FBS AD telling the fan base he's hiring an OC/DC who's never coached or played any position in FBS and never was an OC/DC in FCS or Division II. (Which is why we saw some vague rumblings of his expertise in special teams). Along the lines of telling the fan base he's hiring an FBS head coach who never coached or played in any position in FBS and was 7-4 this year as a Patriot League FCS head coach and didn't make the FCS playoffs.
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Post by sader1970 on Dec 3, 2023 11:14:39 GMT -5
I don’t know but from postings here, while some Syracuse fans might have thought that, it appears a bunch of them were quite willing to go with Chesney.
I know earlier in the year when at the BC game, a bunch of fans wanted to trade coaches even up before the game even started and suspect they felt even stronger about that after the game - but most of them left before the game resumed.😂
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Post by drjack on Dec 3, 2023 11:21:25 GMT -5
JMU fans are largely more on board with Chesney than Syracuse fans were from what I've been seeing. I don't think it'd be that hard a sell to the fanbase. Boosters may be a different story though.
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Post by 78purple on Dec 3, 2023 11:26:37 GMT -5
I don’t know but from postings here, while some Syracuse fans might have thought that, it appears a bunch of them were quite willing to go with Chesney. I know earlier in the year when at the BC game, a bunch of fans wanted to trade coaches even up before the game even started and suspect they felt even stronger about that after the game - but most of them left before the game resumed.😂 I think he can make the jump at some point directly from FCS to FBS at some point ( if he wants to ) rather than more conventional OC/DC FBS route......However, without question, his negotiating position was much better last year as Ng lined up for that go-ahead FG on the 1st play of the 4th Qtr against the Jackrabbits than it is now, despite the fact that several of us think he did a better coaching job this year. But as stated, 5 fewer wins and no playoff keeps BC in Worcester for awhile longer, which is obviously good for us.........I know for a fact he talks to and listens to Coach Steig and Duffner a lot, and we can hope those insights ( with adequate compensation ) will keep him here for a long term career
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Post by longsuffering on Dec 3, 2023 12:28:46 GMT -5
JMU Nation should be more comfortable with an FCS coach because they recently came from FCS and realize the two subdivisions are not oceans apart.
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Post by hcpride on Dec 3, 2023 13:06:10 GMT -5
I don’t know but from postings here, while some Syracuse fans might have thought that, it appears a bunch of them were quite willing to go with Chesney. I know earlier in the year when at the BC game, a bunch of fans wanted to trade coaches even up before the game even started and suspect they felt even stronger about that after the game - but most of them left before the game resumed.😂 To be fair, at that time we were riding a 17-game regular season winning streak and BC was coming off a bad season and a bad loss to Northern Illinois... Beyond that, the further BC gets from that great 2022 season the more the bloom may be off the rose vis-a-vis FBS head coaching opportunities...and, of course, there are successful up-and-comers (FCS head coaches, FBS OC/DC, etc) minted each year.
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Post by drjack on Dec 3, 2023 13:59:48 GMT -5
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