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Post by nycrusader2010 on Nov 26, 2023 18:07:56 GMT -5
Is it time to remove the committee and use a computer ranking like the FBS had with a BCS system? Or committee ranks seeds? I like how bowls pick their teams. You have tie-ins and then the bowl picks the next best (like ACC #3 vs AAC #2) and those who will put fannies in the seats and help the bottom line. After looking at the crowd vs BC and Army, it would be an attractive get for a bowl. I think the BCS uses a committee to select for their playoffs. The old BCS was a computer-generated ranking. The CFP rankings I believe are released by a committee.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Nov 26, 2023 18:09:15 GMT -5
Win the conference outright and we are good to go, as 2 PL teams only make it if the second team is 9-2 or goes 8-3 with an FBS win I refer you to Haslem’s comment that he voted that an 11-0 Holy Cross did not deserve a seed. That mob from the power conferences want their teams to get the seeds and home games, and the beat goes on next year It's a one-bid lead (with an exception to prove the rule here and there) and this year's PL FCS playoff performance didn't help. (In the same way Richmond's performance helped the CAA by proving the "CAA should be three bids this year " folks were dead wrong.) Richmond got to play North Carolina Central. They've proven nothing.
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Post by hchoops on Nov 26, 2023 18:14:31 GMT -5
Some here rightfully deride Lafayette’s performance, but considering the fact that our strong games last season did not help us any, I am not sure Lafayette’s sorry play yesterday will have any influence next season on PL evaluation for inclusion in the playoffs.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Nov 26, 2023 18:15:52 GMT -5
Some here rightfully deride Lafayette’s performance, but consider ing our strong games last season did nit help us any, I am not sure Lafayette’s sorry play yesterday will have any influence next season on PL evaluation for inclusion in the playiffs Agree. Just like HC's great showing in 2022 held no bearing this year.
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Post by hcpride on Nov 26, 2023 19:15:12 GMT -5
It's a one-bid lead (with an exception to prove the rule here and there) and this year's PL FCS playoff performance didn't help. (In the same way Richmond's performance helped the CAA by proving the "CAA should be three bids this year " folks were dead wrong.) Richmond got to play North Carolina Central. They've proven nothing. Although I wouldn't call it an upset, North Carolina Central (16) was ranked above Richmond (22) as well as Lafayette (20), and Holy Cross (31) on the final STATS poll. Richmond's win validated their at-large selection as the 4th CAA team. (To the extent anyone thought the CAA deserved just 2 or 3.)
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Post by gks on Nov 26, 2023 19:31:08 GMT -5
Some here rightfully deride Lafayette’s performance, but considering the fact that our strong games last season did not help us any, I am not sure Lafayette’s sorry play yesterday will have any influence next season on PL evaluation for inclusion in the playoffs. Of course it will. FCS tournament performance by the PL is spotty at best. Very rare for a team to make a run or actually win a game. The fact that the PL champion couldn't hold a 20+pt lead against a 4th CAA team will be a factor moving forward.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Nov 26, 2023 19:42:54 GMT -5
Richmond got to play North Carolina Central. They've proven nothing. Although I wouldn't call it an upset, North Carolina Central (16) was ranked above Richmond (22) as well as Lafayette (20), and Holy Cross (31) on the final STATS poll. Richmond's win validated their at-large selection as the 4th CAA team. (To the extent anyone thought the CAA deserved just 2 or 3.) If Holy Cross played NC Central I bet we'd be -5.5. or -6.5, STATS poll notwithstanding.
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Post by hcmawfawo on Nov 26, 2023 21:09:29 GMT -5
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Post by sader1970 on Nov 26, 2023 21:19:29 GMT -5
And being a resident of Rhode Island, I apologize for not making an effort to buy off the FCS selection committee to have Holy Cross get a seed or at least an at large selection. 😂
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Post by cruskater31 on Nov 26, 2023 21:20:38 GMT -5
Although I wouldn't call it an upset, North Carolina Central (16) was ranked above Richmond (22) as well as Lafayette (20), and Holy Cross (31) on the final STATS poll. Richmond's win validated their at-large selection as the 4th CAA team. (To the extent anyone thought the CAA deserved just 2 or 3.) If Holy Cross played NC Central I bet we'd be -5.5. or -6.5, STATS poll notwithstanding. the MEAC was stronger than usual with Morgan scoring an upset over Richmond early and then some parity with Howard beating NC Central after NCC beat Elon. That being said, I think the PL was stronger than the MEAC this year. We would beat NCC by 2-3 TD's in the playoffs.
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Post by cruskater31 on Nov 26, 2023 21:35:11 GMT -5
And being a resident of Rhode Island, I apologize for not making an effort to buy off the FCS selection committee to have Holy Cross get a seed or at least an at large selection. 😂 it's because Buddy passed away a few years ago!
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Post by sader1970 on Nov 26, 2023 21:40:17 GMT -5
Nah, Buddy was just a mayor. We would have gone with bigger fish, HC alum, Ed DiPrete was governor before he spent time in the big house. I’ve actually met him on a couple of occasions having had a mutual friend. Very nice guy, actually. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_D._DiPrete
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Post by cruskater31 on Nov 26, 2023 21:49:15 GMT -5
Nah, Buddy was just a mayor. We would have gone with bigger fish, HC alum, Ed DiPrete was governor before he spent time in the big house. I’ve actually met him on a couple of occasions having had a mutual friend. Very nice guy, actually. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_D._DiPrete he was an HC alum? I know Buddy went to Fairfield and Nova. Some good Catholic education right there. Imagine that "lobbying" team. I have a friend who worked for Ray Blanton back in the day. Now that was stuff of legend (and infamy).
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Post by longsuffering on Nov 26, 2023 22:05:19 GMT -5
The more I think about it, the more salty I get about HC being excluded from the FCS playoffs this year. It is what is, but is our margin of error so slim that by losing 2 games to relatively decent FBS teams by 3 (who both have good FBS wins this year), losing to the PL champ by 3 and losing to a tri-Ivy champ on a neutral field so damning? We beat a tri-Ivy champ on the road, held service against everyone else and were co-league champs ourselves. On top of that, we are coming off 2 pretty successful FCS playoff years,,,.beating SHU and nearly winning against Villanova in 2021 and being seeded and beating UNH at home and playing eventual champ SDSU tougher than anyone in the field last year. Not that it should factor in but we also have 3 of the most dynamic players in all of FCS. My gripe is that HC and its 5th year Sr class should have been given the opportunity to play in the FCS playoffs one more time moreso than the 6th or 4th place teams out of the MVFC and CAA respectively. And with that, I'll shut up about this until 2024. Thinking wins over the Ivy, no matter where they are in the standings, actually move the needle is fool's gold. Right up there with 5th years don't matter and 'Nova and W&M would love to join the PL. Lafayette choking away a huge lead is another brick in the PL stinks wall. And yes I agree....HC did get screwed. They were the best team in the PL. We were best in every category except head to head winning against the other 5-1 PL team.
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Post by sader1970 on Nov 26, 2023 22:18:32 GMT -5
Nah, Buddy was just a mayor. We would have gone with bigger fish, HC alum, Ed DiPrete was governor before he spent time in the big house. I’ve actually met him on a couple of occasions having had a mutual friend. Very nice guy, actually. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_D._DiPrete he was an HC alum? I know Buddy went to Fairfield and Nova. Some good Catholic education right there. Imagine that "lobbying" team. I have a friend who worked for Ray Blanton back in the day. Now that was stuff of legend (and infamy). Yes, Ed is an HC alum. Buddy not only a Fairfield Stag slum but got an honorary degree from them. The Jesuit education!😂 Someday I will repost Buddy’s embarrassing encounter that my wife and I witnessed personally in the Biltmore ballroom when Antonio Banderas was getting the first and probably only Anthony Quinn award and Melanie Griffith there as well as she was his wife at the time. Quinn lived out his life in Bristol, RI, Short version: Buddy showed up uninvited as he was living in the Biltmore and despite a crowd that was at least 80% Hispanic with a translator, he refused to let the translator translate what he said when he went on the stage, uninvited and called Melanie, “my good friend Melody Griffin.” She’s an actress but made no attempt to hide her contempt.
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Post by longsuffering on Nov 26, 2023 22:29:46 GMT -5
Some here rightfully deride Lafayette’s performance, but considering the fact that our strong games last season did not help us any, I am not sure Lafayette’s sorry play yesterday will have any influence next season on PL evaluation for inclusion in the playoffs. Of course it will. FCS tournament performance by the PL is spotty at best. Very rare for a team to make a run or actually win a game. The fact that the PL champion couldn't hold a 20+pt lead against a 4th CAA team will be a factor moving forward. My take is a PL non-seed played an exciting first round game against a CAA non-seed 100 miles away and lost by two points, thus validating the match-making process of the NCAA. If home field advantage is worth about 3 points, wouldn't Lafayette have had the opportunity to secure home field advantage by out-bidding UD, and the chance to win the game at home? If the $ize of the bid is how first round homefield is decided then Lafayette didn't show the commitment HC did to secure home field for the 2021 playoffs and win by three points at the last minute over Sacred Heart. That can't be blamed on league reputation. That's an individual school decision. Leagues don't nake bids for their members.
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Post by gks on Nov 27, 2023 10:11:12 GMT -5
Of course it will. FCS tournament performance by the PL is spotty at best. Very rare for a team to make a run or actually win a game. The fact that the PL champion couldn't hold a 20+pt lead against a 4th CAA team will be a factor moving forward. My take is a PL non-seed played an exciting first round game against a CAA non-seed 100 miles away and lost by two points, thus validating the match-making process of the NCAA. If home field advantage is worth about 3 points, wouldn't Lafayette have had the opportunity to secure home field advantage by out-bidding UD, and the chance to win the game at home? If the $ize of the bid is how first round homefield is decided then Lafayette didn't show the commitment HC did to secure home field for the 2021 playoffs and win by three points at the last minute over Sacred Heart. That can't be blamed on league reputation. That's an individual school decision. Leagues don't nake bids for their members. The play of the league members sets the reputation of the league with those that matter. Fact is that a league champion was up 21 points to a CAA team that barely made the playoffs and lost. One thing we'll agree on is shame on Lafayette for not securing the home game.
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Post by drjack on Nov 27, 2023 10:43:09 GMT -5
Delaware to CUSA in 2025-2026.
Wonder how the CAA handles it.
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Post by 78purple on Dec 1, 2023 22:17:50 GMT -5
Thinking wins over the Ivy, no matter where they are in the standings, actually move the needle is fool's gold. Right up there with 5th years don't matter and 'Nova and W&M would love to join the PL. Lafayette choking away a huge lead is another brick in the PL stinks wall. And yes I agree....HC did get screwed. They were the best team in the PL. We were best in every category except head to head winning against the other 5-1 PL team. Agree, we got screwed, but we have no one to blame but ourselves.....the problem I have is with the committee.......Did they really think that the overall tournament would be better WITHOUT Sluka, Dobbs , and Coker playing ?? If we were allowed in, I would have been shocked if we did not at least match last year's performance......We certainly are not getting knocked out in the 1st round
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Dec 2, 2023 8:05:23 GMT -5
Couple of FCS games on national TV today, amidst "Conference Championship Saturday" in FBS.
Florida A&M-Prairie View A&M for the SWAC title at 4pm on ESPN2 => battle of the A&Ms Southern Illinois @ Idaho in the NCAA Round of 16 at 10pm on ESPN2
All other round of 16 games will be on ESPN+. I'll definitely be tuning into Albany-Richmond at noon and NDSU-Montana State @ 3pm. Definitely will be interesting to see NDSU on the road in the playoffs for a change. I was in Bozeman, MT for the Montana State-W&M game last year with my dad and it's one of the best college sports atmospheres I've ever attended. The other cool part about that trip was watching our game against SDSU the next morning at 11am local time at a packed downtown bar where everyone is knowledgeable about FCS football. Entire bar was rooting for Holy Cross, of course, because they wanted another home game.
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Post by hcpride on Dec 2, 2023 8:46:55 GMT -5
Same time (12 Noon) as Albany v Richmond is Villanova v Youngstown State so that may be an ESPN+ back - and - forth for CAA fans. (Delaware v Montana is 9 PM).
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Dec 2, 2023 10:39:32 GMT -5
Honestly I hope Montana gives Delaware a nice parting gift tonight before they move onto the slums of CUSA.
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Post by 78purple on Dec 2, 2023 10:43:13 GMT -5
Delaware to CUSA in 2025-2026. Wonder how the CAA handles it. Maybe the CAA needs a new New England member ??
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Post by midwestsader05 on Dec 2, 2023 11:15:59 GMT -5
Same time (12 Noon) as Albany v Richmond is Villanova v Youngstown State so that may be an ESPN+ back - and - forth for CAA fans. (Delaware v Montana is 9 PM). Gonna try and watch some of our guy Jake Reichwein. 3rd team all CAA this year with 10 QBHs, 8.5 TFLs and 4.5 sacks. Excellent production considering Nova runs a 3 man front w/ the D-Ends in base 4i techniques (inside shoulder of the OT so a lot of responsibility v OGs and OTs). FWIW, Reich also would have been back to HC this year for his 6th year if we had a grad program. SDSU is blowing everyone away cause all their 5 years and even several 6 years came back from their Natty winning team last year.
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Post by hc1996 on Dec 2, 2023 12:55:43 GMT -5
Lots of positive comments about Reichwein today.
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