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Post by sader1970 on Dec 6, 2023 10:07:20 GMT -5
Not to sound like a State Farm commercial but Harvard and to a lesser extent Yale have played us consistently in football through thick and thin when they were up and we were down (with the Yale exception at the end of Gilmore’s tenure when they backed out of an agreed home and home when their turn to come to Fitton). I miss Dartmouth as we played them every year for eons (yes, that’s exaggeration).
You are the company you keep. I like playing Harvard, Yale, Dartmouth, even Brown. They are local and games are usually competitive. I also like playing UNH, URI, UConn, UMass and FBS teams like BC, Army, Navy but Syracuse not so much.
I think the football schedule the last few years has really been close to perfect. I know some would like to see the various Dakota teams, especially SDSU, and Sac State. They’re never coming to Fitton.
Basketball, we need to upgrade the schedule as we improve. GU and St. John’s would be great in 2-3 years when we are more likely to be going full throttle. BC should be every year regardless of how we or they are doing. Tradition.
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Post by timholycross on Dec 6, 2023 10:28:33 GMT -5
So should PC and Umass w/regard to basketball. Same reason. UConn fits in the same category, but, alas, I think they don't want very much to do with us in hoops.
My only knock on D and B are they add one or two more weakly attended home games to the schedule. Neither one would half fill Polar, never mind Fitton.
A fall trip to Dartmouth still is an attractive option. Brown's close but there's rarely any enthusiasm surrounding any game that's played there.
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Post by sader1970 on Dec 6, 2023 10:48:09 GMT -5
We all have opinions and why this board exists. What constitutes "enthusiasm" is in the eye of the beholder. Agree Brown, nor any RI located institution "travels well" as it's a small state (said to me numerous times in places not in the Northeast, "Rhode Island? What state is that in?" ), and traveling all the way up Rt. 146 might as well be driving to Los Angeles! Apparently, even the Brown students then adopt that philosophy. One thing in common with HC students, football does not excites the current students unless you are on the team or have a friend on the team. Mostly alums and family members. I did think the last two games we played at Brown in football were pretty well attended by the Crusader fans and need I remind you all of the basketball games at Brown? You know, the NAD confrontation with irate Brown co-eds for cheering for the Purple? How dare he and the rest of us cheer for the opposing team!!! They picked on NAD because, well, he's a little louder than the rest of us ("the nail that sticks up the highest . . . . ")! You, you, you .. . . . . ON YOU! doesn't play as well in visiting venues.
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Post by rf1 on Dec 6, 2023 11:41:41 GMT -5
We get home and away games with H&Y in football and basketball even when HC is in an ice age competitively like the post-Willard years in MBB. UNH has been pretty good but I can't remember the last time URI played at Fitton or the Hart. The Rams came to Worcester in 2018 but that was in front of 2312 in the DCU. They are in the A-10 and CAA and will play home and home with a P.C. but not an H.C. at least recently. Maybe that is changing in FB and there are games at Fitton scheduled after the game at URI next season.
Per the URI Football record book, Holy Cross has only played URI a total of ten games with nine of them being at Fitton. The Crusaders are 9-1 in the series with the last meeting back in 1988.
Per the URI Men's basketball record book, Holy Cross has played URI a total of 43 games with 18 having been played in Worcester, 21 games in RI, and 4 designated as neutral (not Worcester or Providence). The Crusaders lead the series 26-17 with the last meeting back in 2018.
For those complaining about HC not getting home games against URI, it should be noted that it has hosted more of the past meetings in Worcester for football and men's basketball (27) than those played in RI (22).
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Post by longsuffering on Dec 6, 2023 12:23:22 GMT -5
We get home and away games with H&Y in football and basketball even when HC is in an ice age competitively like the post-Willard years in MBB. UNH has been pretty good but I can't remember the last time URI played at Fitton or the Hart. The Rams came to Worcester in 2018 but that was in front of 2312 in the DCU. They are in the A-10 and CAA and will play home and home with a P.C. but not an H.C. at least recently. Maybe that is changing in FB and there are games at Fitton scheduled after the game at URI next season.
Per the URI Football record book, Holy Cross has only played URI a total of ten games with nine of them being at Fitton. The Crusaders are 9-1 in the series with the last meeting back in 1988.
Per the URI Men's basketball record book, Holy Cross has played URI a total of 43 games with 18 having been played in Worcester, 21 games in RI, and 4 designated as neutral (not Worcester or Providence). The Crusaders lead the series 26-17 with the last meeting back in 2018.
For those complaining about HC not getting home games against URI, it should be noted that it has hosted more of the past meetings in Worcester for football and men's basketball (27) than those played in RI (22).
And there is nothing unreasonable about the current URI and HC athletic departments both seeking aspirational schedules to help move up in the world of FCS and D-1 BB. URI may be aspirational to HC at present but HC might not be aspirational to URI, at least in MBB. No harm no foul. But fans can't just demand games against stronger opponents. Both parties have to agree.
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Post by timholycross on Dec 6, 2023 16:46:28 GMT -5
We get home and away games with H&Y in football and basketball even when HC is in an ice age competitively like the post-Willard years in MBB. UNH has been pretty good but I can't remember the last time URI played at Fitton or the Hart. The Rams came to Worcester in 2018 but that was in front of 2312 in the DCU. They are in the A-10 and CAA and will play home and home with a P.C. but not an H.C. at least recently. Maybe that is changing in FB and there are games at Fitton scheduled after the game at URI next season.
Per the URI Football record book, Holy Cross has only played URI a total of ten games with nine of them being at Fitton. The Crusaders are 9-1 in the series with the last meeting back in 1988.
Per the URI Men's basketball record book, Holy Cross has played URI a total of 43 games with 18 having been played in Worcester, 21 games in RI, and 4 designated as neutral (not Worcester or Providence). The Crusaders lead the series 26-17 with the last meeting back in 2018.
For those complaining about HC not getting home games against URI, it should be noted that it has hosted more of the past meetings in Worcester for football and men's basketball (27) than those played in RI (22).
Went to one game at the (old) Boston Garden. 1980, I believe. HC won.
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Post by jkh67 on Dec 7, 2023 8:39:58 GMT -5
Not to sound like a State Farm commercial but Harvard and to a lesser extent Yale have played us consistently in football through thick and thin when they were up and we were down (with the Yale exception at the end of Gilmore’s tenure when they backed out of an agreed home and home when their turn to come to Fitton). I miss Dartmouth as we played them every year for eons (yes, that’s exaggeration). You are the company you keep. I like playing Harvard, Yale, Dartmouth, even Brown. They are local and games are usually competitive. I also like playing UNH, URI, UConn, UMass and FBS teams like BC, Army, Navy but Syracuse not so much. I think the football schedule the last few years has really been close to perfect. I know some would like to see the various Dakota teams, especially SDSU, and Sac State. They’re never coming to Fitton. Basketball, we need to upgrade the schedule as we improve. GU and St. John’s would be great in 2-3 years when we are more likely to be going full throttle. BC should be every year regardless of how we or they are doing. Tradition. This is absolutely "right on" from my standpoint. I've particularly never understood why the Dartmouth game disappeared from the schedule. We played them almost every year for decades. Indeed, at one time we had played the Big Green more than any other schools except BC and Colgate.
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Post by nhteamer on Dec 7, 2023 10:57:48 GMT -5
Not to sound like a State Farm commercial but Harvard and to a lesser extent Yale have played us consistently in football through thick and thin when they were up and we were down (with the Yale exception at the end of Gilmore’s tenure when they backed out of an agreed home and home when their turn to come to Fitton). I miss Dartmouth as we played them every year for eons (yes, that’s exaggeration). You are the company you keep. I like playing Harvard, Yale, Dartmouth, even Brown. They are local and games are usually competitive. I also like playing UNH, URI, UConn, UMass and FBS teams like BC, Army, Navy but Syracuse not so much. I think the football schedule the last few years has really been close to perfect. I know some would like to see the various Dakota teams, especially SDSU, and Sac State. They’re never coming to Fitton. Basketball, we need to upgrade the schedule as we improve. GU and St. John’s would be great in 2-3 years when we are more likely to be going full throttle. BC should be every year regardless of how we or they are doing. Tradition. This is absolutely "right on" from my standpoint. I've particularly never understood why the Dartmouth game disappeared from the schedule. We played them almost every year for decades. Indeed, at one time we had played the Big Green more than any other schools except BC and Colgate. Also agree. Basta on the Bryants, Merrinacks, Dartmouth was/is a great opponent.
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Post by nhteamer on Dec 7, 2023 10:58:03 GMT -5
This is absolutely "right on" from my standpoint. I've particularly never understood why the Dartmouth game disappeared from the schedule. We played them almost every year for decades. Indeed, at one time we had played the Big Green more than any other schools except BC and Colgate.
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Post by bigfan on Dec 7, 2023 11:48:02 GMT -5
Prior reports have stated that Dartmouth dropped HC.
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Post by purple1 on Dec 7, 2023 12:58:29 GMT -5
Dartmouth wanted to resurrect their football program, thus dropped HC off the schedule to get more wins. Kit could revisit this game, but not sure Dartmouth would want the challenge.
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Post by bfoley82 on Dec 7, 2023 14:23:14 GMT -5
Dartmouth wanted to resurrect their football program, thus dropped HC off the schedule to get more wins. Kit could revisit this game, but not sure Dartmouth would want the challenge. Dartmouth is doing fine without Holy Cross with three Ivy League titles in the last four seasons played.
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Post by longsuffering on Dec 7, 2023 14:25:26 GMT -5
Dartmouth also wanted to schedule games in different regions for the benefits that brings for the overall Dartmouth community. Without looking at their schedules I believe HC was replaced with out of New England opponents in several seasons since our series ended.
It's similar to calls on Crossports for a more national Holy Cross schedule.
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Post by timholycross on Dec 7, 2023 14:59:06 GMT -5
Dartmouth also wanted to schedule games in different regions for the benefits that brings for the overall Dartmouth community. Without looking at their schedules I believe HC was replaced with out of New England opponents in several seasons since our series ended. It's similar to calls on Crossports for a more national Holy Cross schedule. Kudos to them for scheduling a game with Army and continuing the rivalry w/UNH, but nothing else in this list screams out "National". fbschedules.com/ncaa/dartmouth/The new coach may have different feelings about non-leaguers, not that those non-leaguers may end up including Holy Cross; I'm sure that Dartmouth valued and used Buddy's input.
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Post by 78purple on Dec 7, 2023 16:02:05 GMT -5
Not to sound like a State Farm commercial but Harvard and to a lesser extent Yale have played us consistently in football through thick and thin when they were up and we were down (with the Yale exception at the end of Gilmore’s tenure when they backed out of an agreed home and home when their turn to come to Fitton). I miss Dartmouth as we played them every year for eons (yes, that’s exaggeration). You are the company you keep. I like playing Harvard, Yale, Dartmouth, even Brown. They are local and games are usually competitive. I also like playing UNH, URI, UConn, UMass and FBS teams like BC, Army, Navy but Syracuse not so much. I think the football schedule the last few years has really been close to perfect. I know some would like to see the various Dakota teams, especially SDSU, and Sac State. They’re never coming to Fitton. Basketball, we need to upgrade the schedule as we improve. GU and St. John’s would be great in 2-3 years when we are more likely to be going full throttle. BC should be every year regardless of how we or they are doing. Tradition. This could be one of those seminal moments that we've been talking about re: what we really want to be moving forward........Do we want to be a Villanova-esque solid 1-AA/Mid-major, or D-3 ?? Which is it gonna be ?? This decision, and the urgency in which its implemented from Kit and Vince will tell us a lot
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Post by longsuffering on Dec 7, 2023 16:04:24 GMT -5
Dartmouth also wanted to schedule games in different regions for the benefits that brings for the overall Dartmouth community. Without looking at their schedules I believe HC was replaced with out of New England opponents in several seasons since our series ended. It's similar to calls on Crossports for a more national Holy Cross schedule. Kudos to them for scheduling a game with Army and continuing the rivalry w/UNH, but nothing else in this list screams out "National". fbschedules.com/ncaa/dartmouth/The new coach may have different feelings about non-leaguers, not that those non-leaguers may end up including Holy Cross; I'm sure that Dartmouth valued and used Buddy's input. Odd that Buddy and Coach Murphy at Harvard would have divergent views of the HC series. The series might be considered more valuable at Harvard because it saves an overnight stay. Those trips may get old for a veteran coach. You actually rarely hear of incidents but it's a large traveling party the head coach has ultimate responsibility for.
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Post by Wayne on Dec 7, 2023 16:39:38 GMT -5
URI plays both Bryant and Brown annually as well as an FBS game. There has been no room on their schedule for many years for a Holy Cross matchup. The 2024/25 series was set up as there was an extra week in the season allowing teams to schedule an extra game. Now that Bryant is a conference opponent, future games with the Rams become more likely.
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Post by bfoley82 on Dec 7, 2023 17:59:58 GMT -5
Dartmouth also wanted to schedule games in different regions for the benefits that brings for the overall Dartmouth community. Without looking at their schedules I believe HC was replaced with out of New England opponents in several seasons since our series ended. It's similar to calls on Crossports for a more national Holy Cross schedule. Kudos to them for scheduling a game with Army and continuing the rivalry w/UNH, but nothing else in this list screams out "National". fbschedules.com/ncaa/dartmouth/The new coach may have different feelings about non-leaguers, not that those non-leaguers may end up including Holy Cross; I'm sure that Dartmouth valued and used Buddy's input. They were scheduled with Jacksonville who dropped the sport before they could play, They have had trips to Valpo recently also.
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Post by mainejeff on Dec 7, 2023 18:21:32 GMT -5
There's room on Maine's schedule....just sayin'
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Post by 78purple on Dec 8, 2023 1:56:15 GMT -5
There's room on Maine's schedule....just sayin' My vote would be less emphasis on the Ivies and more on the old Yankee Conference and CAA....it'll help us more on Selection Sunday
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Post by 78purple on Dec 8, 2023 1:59:20 GMT -5
Per the URI Football record book, Holy Cross has only played URI a total of ten games with nine of them being at Fitton. The Crusaders are 9-1 in the series with the last meeting back in 1988.
Per the URI Men's basketball record book, Holy Cross has played URI a total of 43 games with 18 having been played in Worcester, 21 games in RI, and 4 designated as neutral (not Worcester or Providence). The Crusaders lead the series 26-17 with the last meeting back in 2018.
For those complaining about HC not getting home games against URI, it should be noted that it has hosted more of the past meetings in Worcester for football and men's basketball (27) than those played in RI (22).
Interesting....would not have guessed those numbers with either sport And there is nothing unreasonable about the current URI and HC athletic departments both seeking aspirational schedules to help move up in the world of FCS and D-1 BB. URI may be aspirational to HC at present but HC might not be aspirational to URI, at least in MBB. No harm no foul. But fans can't just demand games against stronger opponents. Both parties have to agree.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Dec 8, 2023 6:43:59 GMT -5
Dartmouth wanted to resurrect their football program, thus dropped HC off the schedule to get more wins. Kit could revisit this game, but not sure Dartmouth would want the challenge. IIRC, Dartmouth also dropped UNH at about the same time it dropped HC. Again IIRC, UNH and HC were Dartmouth's longest-standing rivalries outside of the IL. UNH came back, HC didn't. HC may have shut the door on renewing the series with the long-term contracts with H&Y. The Ivies only have three OOC games every year, which is also a big impediment..
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Post by mm67 on Dec 8, 2023 7:02:16 GMT -5
IMO, sullied as it may be, we should be playing Dartmouth every year. HC must find a way to resume this long time rivalry with Dartmouth.
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Post by gks on Dec 8, 2023 8:12:26 GMT -5
IMO, sullied as it may be, we should be playing Dartmouth every year. HC must find a way to resume this long time rivalry with Dartmouth. Dartmouth doesn't want to play HC. Too scared.
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Post by hcpride on Dec 8, 2023 8:29:52 GMT -5
When I attended HC, the Dartmouth game was an insignificant victory each year (too far away to attend a game at their place and too predictable to roll down to Fitton field and watch). Which is why many folks of my vintage have no particular fondness attached to past or future football games against Dartmouth. (I just looked it up and apparently we were in the midst of a 10 or 11 game winning streak v Dartmouth when I was at HC.)
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