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Post by rgs318 on Dec 17, 2023 10:05:13 GMT -5
141 Lehigh (8-2)
171 Boston Univ. (7-3)
195 HOLY CROSS (6-5)
267 Bucknell (3-8)
271 Colgate (6-4)
294 Lafayette (5-6)
306 American (2-7)
304 Loyola (4-5)
339 Army (2-7)
343 Navy (4-6)
Out of 360 rated women's teams
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Post by longsuffering on Dec 17, 2023 13:19:12 GMT -5
4-5 HC ahead of 5-3 Colgate who have only lost to Georgetown. Miami and Norfolk State. Massey must still be factoring in last season’s records?
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Post by oldschoolhoops on Dec 17, 2023 13:45:24 GMT -5
4-5 HC ahead of 5-3 Colgate who have only lost to Georgetown. Miami and Norfolk State. Massey must still be factoring in last season’s records? It's probably more about overall strength of schedule and who you've beaten. Colgate has wins versus Cornell, UMBC, Canisius, LeMoyne and a bad D3 program in Keuka. I don't know that any of those are particularly impressive. We have a similar challenge but that's probably why we're fairly close with Colgate in that ranking. |
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Post by HC13 on Dec 18, 2023 13:59:02 GMT -5
Colgate goes down to a bad Central Conn team 69-54 in a game they were favored 9.
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Post by sader1970 on Dec 18, 2023 14:13:42 GMT -5
Yeah, bad CCSU team that only beat us by 11.  |
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Post by HC13 on Dec 18, 2023 14:58:57 GMT -5
Yeah, bad CCSU team that only beat us by 11. That would be the men's team. Women have not played.  |
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Post by sader1970 on Dec 18, 2023 15:22:16 GMT -5
Being our 50th year of co-education, I hope you could understand my confusion.😂
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Post by purplehaze on Dec 18, 2023 16:08:18 GMT -5
Just a terrible loss by Colgate - CCSU now 2-9 with only other win was over winless UML
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Post by bfoley82 on Dec 18, 2023 22:30:14 GMT -5
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Post by HC13 on Dec 18, 2023 23:27:05 GMT -5
Broken link. Agree, alot of the games are terrible, skills have regressed across the board. |
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Post by timholycross on Dec 19, 2023 7:42:31 GMT -5
Broken link. Agree, alot of the games are terrible, skills have regressed across the board. Wonder if we're seeing the effects of a solid year (March 2020 onward) of chaos and limited participation in youth sports? |
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Post by HC13 on Dec 19, 2023 10:00:21 GMT -5
Broken link. Agree, alot of the games are terrible, skills have regressed across the board. Wonder if we're seeing the effects of a solid year (March 2020 onward) of chaos and limited participation in youth sports? I do think the lost COVID year is a primary cause. |
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Post by purplehaze on Dec 19, 2023 12:12:12 GMT -5
I don't think that's the problem with this year's women's team - offensively we are well below last year's standards with everyone back (exc. Cross who was a defensive specialist)
Examples: (with 1/3 of the season having been played)
Team FG % 22-23: .423 / 23-24: .375 - 3 pt FG % 22-23: .317 / 23-24: .266
McCormack: fg% 22-23: .308 / 23-24: .254 - 3 pt% 22-23: .325 / 23-24: .254
Foreman: fg% 22-23: .413 / 23-24: .244 (3pt % similar - 21 pct)
Berger: fg% 22-23: .527 / 23-24: .463
BPC: fg% 22-23: .458 / 23-24: .399 - 3pt% 22-23: .390 / 23-24: .295
Allen and Flanagan %'s are down slightly but the only ones close to last season
Conclusion: a very disappointing coaching job by the staff and a very unsatisfactory off-season with 'zero' benefit from the overseas trip to Ireland
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Post by hchoops on Dec 19, 2023 13:02:25 GMT -5
WHy blame the coaches ?
Would they have reduced shooting drills in the off season, or. preseason ?
Would they have de-emphasized shooting ?
Has the offense significantly changed to create fewer quality shots ?
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Post by hcfan85 on Dec 19, 2023 13:10:34 GMT -5
I don't think that's the problem with this year's women's team - offensively we are well below last year's standards with everyone back (exc. Cross who was a defensive specialist) Examples: (with 1/3 of the season having been played) Team FG % 22-23: .423 / 23-24: .375 - 3 pt FG % 22-23: .317 / 23-24: .266 McCormack: fg% 22-23: .308 / 23-24: .254 - 3 pt% 22-23: .325 / 23-24: .254 Foreman: fg% 22-23: .413 / 23-24: .244 (3pt % similar - 21 pct) Berger: fg% 22-23: .527 / 23-24: .463 BPC: fg% 22-23: .458 / 23-24: .399 - 3pt% 22-23: .390 / 23-24: .295 Allen and Flanagan %'s are down slightly but the only ones close to last season Conclusion: a very disappointing coaching job by the staff and a very unsatisfactory off-season with 'zero' benefit from the overseas trip to Ireland Yeah...very disappointing when they lead the Patriot League in RPI at 124.... www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-women/d1/ncaa-womens-basketball-net-rankings |
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Post by purplehaze on Dec 19, 2023 13:31:20 GMT -5
I was replying to HC13's theory that the low quality of overall play was 'primarily' due to the Covid year - I disagreed
Our eyes are not lying when you look at our team and realize we are 2-5 against teams that have a D.1 win this season. Those stats are real and I'm hoping with you
that we turn this thing around and play to last season's standard
We were the preseason no.1 pick on the PL for a reason
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Post by bfoley82 on Dec 19, 2023 13:45:55 GMT -5
WHy blame the coaches ? Would they have reduced shooting drills in the off season, or. preseason ? Would they have de-emphasized shooting ? Has the offense significantly changed to create fewer quality shots ? I am seeing so many missed layups and bunny shots missed throughout NCAAW right now. I don't know if the coaching around the country has gotten worse or what is going on. |
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Post by hcfan85 on Dec 19, 2023 13:46:02 GMT -5
I was replying to HC13's theory that the low quality of overall play was 'primarily' due to the Covid year - I disagreed Our eyes are not lying when you look at our team and realize we are 2-5 against teams that have a D.1 win this season. Those stats are real and I'm hoping with you that we turn this thing around and play to last season's standard We were the preseason no.1 pick on the PL for a reason Three of those five losses were by a combined 10 points. If they were 5-2 in those games you would still find a reason to complain. |
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Post by HC13 on Dec 19, 2023 14:20:45 GMT -5
I was replying to HC13's theory that the low quality of overall play was 'primarily' due to the Covid year - I disagreed Our eyes are not lying when you look at our team and realize we are 2-5 against teams that have a D.1 win this season. Those stats are real and I'm hoping with you that we turn this thing around and play to last season's standard We were the preseason no.1 pick on the PL for a reason Actually, my response was to both Foley & Tim's observations that the play in WBB across the board seems to have deteriorated this season, which I still agree with. Oddly enough, HC's defensive stats have improved significantly over last season, OOC '23 55.3 vs '24 51.6. |
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Post by hchoops on Dec 19, 2023 14:29:37 GMT -5
I was replying to HC13's theory that the low quality of overall play was 'primarily' due to the Covid year - I disagreed Our eyes are not lying when you look at our team and realize we are 2-5 against teams that have a D.1 win this season. Those stats are real and I'm hoping with you that we turn this thing around and play to last season's standard We were the preseason no.1 pick on the PL for a reason Actually, my response was to both Foley & Tim's observations that the play in WBB across the board seems to have deteriorated this season, which I still agree with. Oddly enough, HC's defensive stats have improved significantly over last season, OOC '23 55.3 vs '24 51.6. Is the more important stat of effective defensive fg % also improved ? |
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Post by HC13 on Dec 19, 2023 14:52:02 GMT -5
'24 - .330 (OOC) which ranks 10th in the nation vs '23 .375 (season)
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