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Post by purplehaze on Mar 25, 2024 8:13:48 GMT -5
It’s interesting that no one seems to know what her plans are - I’d think she could latch on at an A10 program
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BPC
Mar 25, 2024 8:38:17 GMT -5
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Post by rgs318 on Mar 25, 2024 8:38:17 GMT -5
I believe she could, but that may not be part of her life plan. She strikes me as someone who always has a plan moving forward. Having her at HC for four years has been a real blessing for which I am most thankful.
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BPC
Mar 25, 2024 9:13:19 GMT -5
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Post by longsuffering on Mar 25, 2024 9:13:19 GMT -5
Can Bronah be contacted by college coaches whether she is in the portal or not since she is slated to graduate or because she still has a year of eligibility is she treated the same as an undergraduate and can only be recruited if she enters the portal?
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Mar 25, 2024 9:30:13 GMT -5
Post by rgs318 on Mar 25, 2024 9:30:13 GMT -5
I believe they are free to contact her since she is graduating. After all, she will not be an HC student after May, but I am not sure about that
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BPC
Mar 25, 2024 11:53:43 GMT -5
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Post by HC13 on Mar 25, 2024 11:53:43 GMT -5
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Mar 25, 2024 12:50:23 GMT -5
Post by rgs318 on Mar 25, 2024 12:50:23 GMT -5
What comes in to play here is that she is not actually "transferring." She is graduating. Those questions you gave the link to are good, but none of them seem to address BPC's case. The colleges and the NCAA seem to want to treat graduates as "transfers" even though they are not. I guess it poreserves the fiction that they are still in some way undergraduate athletes.
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BPC
Mar 25, 2024 13:23:21 GMT -5
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Post by HC13 on Mar 25, 2024 13:23:21 GMT -5
I do think #8 does at least in part. I suspect that if BPC is interested, there are any number of informal ways to contact.. I assume the seniors will decide on to portal or not in the next few days
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Mar 25, 2024 14:06:07 GMT -5
Post by CHC8485 on Mar 25, 2024 14:06:07 GMT -5
I have not done any research to determine f this is true but logically the LOI goes beyond the initial commitment, it is an agreement to use your college eligibility at the school you sign with. If the student has not exhausted their eligibility, the school has to release them from the commitment to play their final year of eligibility somewhere other than Holy Cross.
It makes little difference to us since we do not have a grad school and presume BPC is going to graduate in May with her class.
But it makes a lot of difference to any school which does have grad programs.
In BPC's case, presuming she will graduate in May, transferring is the formal process which will release her from her final season of eligibility at Holy Cross. I suspect you had to formally request a transfer before "the portal" existed, and that process has not changed, it is just much more public now.
Like I said, I do not know if that is true, but it seems to make sense.
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BPC
Mar 25, 2024 14:24:06 GMT -5
Post by hcfan85 on Mar 25, 2024 14:24:06 GMT -5
Here's a fun exercise, rank these three in order, BPC, Lauren Manis, Avery.
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Mar 25, 2024 14:35:43 GMT -5
Post by hchoops on Mar 25, 2024 14:35:43 GMT -5
A tough decision 2 PLC and an NCAA win (as well as recency bias) may swing the choice to BP-C. But Lauren went deep into a WNBA training camp. Does Avery lose votes because of her current employer ?
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Mar 25, 2024 14:44:19 GMT -5
Post by ndgradbuthcfan on Mar 25, 2024 14:44:19 GMT -5
1. Lauren 2. BPC 3. Avery
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Mar 25, 2024 14:56:31 GMT -5
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Post by HC13 on Mar 25, 2024 14:56:31 GMT -5
What a tough question, I'm inclined to with Manis as #1 as the best all-round player and a toss-up between AL & BPC for #2. I'd probably go w/ BPC because of the team success, but could easily be persuaded otherwise.
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BPC
Mar 25, 2024 15:06:22 GMT -5
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Post by rgs318 on Mar 25, 2024 15:06:22 GMT -5
An interesting task. I would say Manis, BPC and Avery. After all, it was said about each in their senior years they could "never be replaced." I am glad HC found a way to move on after two of their departures. Now let's see if HC (and HCMM) can do it one more time.
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Mar 25, 2024 15:17:40 GMT -5
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Post by longsuffering on Mar 25, 2024 15:17:40 GMT -5
Lauren with this head coach would be #1. Without consideration of coaching or teammates, which involves the recruiting side of coaching, BP-C is #1. Avery the sentimental favorite, what a pleasure to watch her play.
BP-C was the least flashy imo. Her solid fundamentals may make her the best without the flair of the other two. Bronah's specific background of playing on multiple, I believe, age based national teams and then a year of coaching in the NEPSAC is a route to HC I hope becomes well trodden. Her freshman year she never seemed out of place or caught with awkward gangly movements because she hadn't figured out the pace yet, that you see with some freshmen.
Without grad school, getting players in their fourteenth year of school is a good way to replicate some of the benefit of non-medical redshirting other schools can use.
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Mar 25, 2024 15:22:58 GMT -5
Post by HC13 on Mar 25, 2024 15:22:58 GMT -5
I have not done any research to determine f this is true but logically the LOI goes beyond the initial commitment, it is an agreement to use your college eligibility at the school you sign with. If the student has not exhausted their eligibility, the school has to release them from the commitment to play their final year of eligibility somewhere other than Holy Cross. It makes little difference to us since we do not have a grad school and presume BPC is going to graduate in May with her class. But it makes a lot of difference to any school which does have grad programs. In BPC's case, presuming she will graduate in May, transferring is the formal process which will release her from her final season of eligibility at Holy Cross. I suspect you had to formally request a transfer before "the portal" existed, and that process has not changed, it is just much more public now. Like I said, I do not know if that is true, but it seems to make sense. I found the following in some fairly recent NCAA FAQs: Division I student-athletes must complete the Division I Transfer Module and notify their current school in writing of their desire to be entered into the NCAA Transfer Portal. Student-athletes may not speak to other schools about transferring directly or indirectly through others (e.g., family member, scholastic or nonscholastic coach, advisor, former teammates) until they receive notice that they have been input into the Transfer Portal. Please consult the Division I Notification of Transfer resource. » Undergraduate students: The majority of undergraduate student-athletes in Division I may only be entered into the Transfer Portal during the sport-specific transfer window for their sport. A campus compliance administrator will clarify when an undergraduate student-athlete is able to be entered into the Transfer Portal during a particular time of year, including whether any exceptions apply to a student-athlete’s circumstances (e.g., their head coach takes a new job). » Postgraduate students: Student-athletes who are on track to complete their undergraduate degree by end of the year (e.g., two semesters) may be entered into the Transfer Portal at any time. Q2: What happens if communications occur with athletics staff or boosters at the Division I school to which a student-athlete ultimately transfers prior to when the student-athlete first appeared in the Transfer Portal? A2: Communicating with another Division I school’s athletics staff prior to entering the Transfer Portal can jeopardize a student-athlete’s future eligibility at that school. Existing recruiting rules prohibit communicating with a student-athlete who is enrolled at another Division I school prior to the student-athlete appearing in the Transfer Portal. These rules extend to indirect contact made by third parties on the student-athlete’s behalf (e.g., family member, scholastic or nonscholastic coach, advisor, former teammates). Certain violations of these rules can constitute a significant breach of conduct as it relates to the NCAA infractions process.
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Mar 25, 2024 15:28:20 GMT -5
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Post by longsuffering on Mar 25, 2024 15:28:20 GMT -5
To enter the portal, one has to give up any claim to a scholarship at the current school. Heavy, man. For graduates of an undergraduate only school, a piece of cake. Almost foolish not to.
Of course like with Bo, the scholarship may be re-offered but there are no guarantees.
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Post by purple1 on Mar 25, 2024 15:33:05 GMT -5
I would rank Amy O'Brien ahead of all three. Scoring, rebounding and defense - all around player of the game. Sherry Levin a close second, then Lauren. All could play for any team in the USA.
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Mar 25, 2024 15:38:14 GMT -5
Post by hchoops on Mar 25, 2024 15:38:14 GMT -5
Question relates only to HC, but Avery’s success in her year in the Big 10 at Wisconsin is significant
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Post by Ignutz on Mar 25, 2024 15:51:43 GMT -5
Okay, folks, it's time to get creative.
Bronagh is a Psychology major. Assumption University shows Psychology courses under its "Graduate Studies" heading. Assumption and Holy Cross are each a member of the HECCMA (the Higher Education Consortium of Central MA).
See where I'm going here?
I'm sure that stranger things have happened when schools work to determine athletic eligibility.
Who's in?
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Post by HC13 on Mar 25, 2024 15:51:59 GMT -5
I would rank Amy O'Brien ahead of all three. Scoring, rebounding and defense - all around player of the game. Sherry Levin a close second, then Lauren. All could play for any team in the USA. Sherry was the cornerstone from which the program's success over the next 25 years began.
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Mar 25, 2024 15:54:59 GMT -5
Post by hchoops on Mar 25, 2024 15:54:59 GMT -5
Okay, folks, it's time to get creative. Bronagh is a Psychology major. Assumption University shows Psychology courses under its "Graduate Studies" heading. Assumption and Holy Cross are each a member of the HECCMA (the Higher Education Consortium of Central MA). See where I'm going here? I'm sure that stranger things have happened when schools work to determine athletic eligibility. Who's in? Nice idea Who pays ?
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Post by HC13 on Mar 25, 2024 15:58:02 GMT -5
Question relates only to HC, but Avery’s success in her year in the Big 10 at Wisconsin is significant No changing the rules!
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BPC
Mar 25, 2024 16:46:36 GMT -5
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Post by longsuffering on Mar 25, 2024 16:46:36 GMT -5
Okay, folks, it's time to get creative. Bronagh is a Psychology major. Assumption University shows Psychology courses under its "Graduate Studies" heading. Assumption and Holy Cross are each a member of the HECCMA (the Higher Education Consortium of Central MA). See where I'm going here? I'm sure that stranger things have happened when schools work to determine athletic eligibility. Who's in? I'm in. Let's go to jail together for "Varsity Blues II" the Catholic college version.🙂 Actually it's an interesting idea.
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Post by cruskater31 on Mar 25, 2024 20:59:21 GMT -5
Talking to some Irish exchange students today and a few of them wanted to talked BPC today. They said one of restaurants near them somehow had the game on satellite or streaming. He said really only Irish hoops players and fans knew who she was last month but now everybody knows her name back home.
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BPC
Mar 25, 2024 22:02:44 GMT -5
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Post by oldschoolhoops on Mar 25, 2024 22:02:44 GMT -5
Not sure if we shared this in here already:
BPC is in the portal.
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