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Post by longsuffering on Jun 27, 2024 20:39:41 GMT -5
URI appears to be paying out about $75-80k for buy games per two recent tweets confirming games $75k to CCSU and $78k to Lafayette. Leopards could conceivably be getting more for longer and most costly travel trip. URI has a 2-1 with Yale with no money. Rhody gets a lot of students from CT with a lot of alums in the state as well. UConn will not play URI so a game in CT with Yale while getting two home games in return makes sense. URI plays both PC and Brown annually on a rotating home and away basis. There is no money exchanged. the Friars and Bears are some of Rhody's most played opponents all time along with UMass and UConn. Do you know of any continuation of the football series beyond this season?
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Post by rf1 on Jun 28, 2024 7:10:12 GMT -5
URI appears to be paying out about $75-80k for buy games per two recent tweets confirming games $75k to CCSU and $78k to Lafayette. Leopards could conceivably be getting more for longer and most costly travel trip. URI has a 2-1 with Yale with no money. Rhody gets a lot of students from CT with a lot of alums in the state as well. UConn will not play URI so a game in CT with Yale while getting two home games in return makes sense. URI plays both PC and Brown annually on a rotating home and away basis. There is no money exchanged. the Friars and Bears are some of Rhody's most played opponents all time along with UMass and UConn. Do you know of any continuation of the football series beyond this season? No idea. Bryant's entry into the CAA however might have freed up one of URI's OOC games as it had a multi year deal with the Bulldogs in place.
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Post by longsuffering on Jun 28, 2024 11:16:10 GMT -5
Do you know of any continuation of the football series beyond this season? No idea. Bryant's entry into the CAA however might have freed up one of URI's OOC games as it had a multi year deal with the Bulldogs in place. Just as Richmond's exit from the CAA reduces HC's OOC games by one. Let's enjoy this year's border wars. HC is 7-0 against CT, RI and NH teams in the past three seasons, including 2-0 in the playoffs but HC opens up with four straight big challenges in the neighborhood (RI, CT, NH) this year, with no tomato cans like Brown or UConn.😅 The unbeaten streak is definitely at risk.
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Post by hc87 on Jun 30, 2024 13:49:40 GMT -5
URI appears to be paying out about $75-80k for buy games per two recent tweets confirming games $75k to CCSU and $78k to Lafayette. Leopards could conceivably be getting more for longer and most costly travel trip. URI has a 2-1 with Yale with no money. Rhody gets a lot of students from CT with a lot of alums in the state as well. UConn will not play URI so a game in CT with Yale while getting two home games in return makes sense. URI plays both PC and Brown annually on a rotating home and away basis. There is no money exchanged. the Friars and Bears are some of Rhody's most played opponents all time along with UMass and UConn. Do you know of any continuation of the football series beyond this season? The Rams travel up 95 and 146 in 2025.....as of now, it's a H&H series in 24 and 25
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Post by hchoops on Jun 30, 2024 13:57:05 GMT -5
Is URI giving us a buy game at Fitton ? Likely not. Then I have never heard of a buy game being the first of a home and home. Strange.
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Post by longsuffering on Jun 30, 2024 14:49:36 GMT -5
I think the buy game is the MBB game at URI's Ryan Center, which does well with attendance, signage and such, so home games are lucrative for the Rams.
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Post by rf1 on Jun 30, 2024 16:17:14 GMT -5
Is URI giving us a buy game at Fitton ? Likely not. Then I have never heard of a buy game being the first of a home and home. Strange. The football series is an even home and home (this is not likely in basketball as recent meetings have either been buy games or a 2for1 with the Worcester game at the DCU Center). The football game in Kingston this season will only be the Crusaders second trip ever there. Holy Cross football was for a long time considered at a higher level and Fitton was far larger than Meade. Crusader football for many decades refused to play at URI as it felt it was beneath them. All the early games in the series were always in Worcester .
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Post by sader1970 on Jun 30, 2024 17:01:01 GMT -5
If you have not already seen this:
In speaking with Dave Johnson '73 yesterday, he indicated that the tailgate would commence about 4:00 pm for the 7:00 pm game start time. I asked about tickets and he and Ann (and Tom Cadigan) are making arrangements through URI for a section of seats for Holy Cross and he expects we will here sometime this week about how to get those tickets. As for alcohol, it'll be BYOB. I haven't checked it out but Dave (masters degree from URI) said he checked and the Crusader's record all-time against URI is 9-2.
Also, want to give public kudos to Dave for leading this as he has been living in NC for 2-3 years now and when he resided in RI, hosted pre-game events in his home for all our HC-URI basketball games and even though he no longer lives anywhere near either URI or HC, he's taken the lead (he had been HC Club of RI president for 2 years).
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Post by bfoley82 on Jun 30, 2024 18:47:16 GMT -5
If you have not already seen this: In speaking with Dave Johnson '73 yesterday, he indicated that the tailgate would commence about 4:00 pm for the 7:00 pm game start time. I asked about tickets and he and Ann (and Tom Cadigan) are making arrangements through URI for a section of seats for Holy Cross and he expects we will here sometime this week about how to get those tickets. As for alcohol, it'll be BYOB. I haven't checked it out but Dave (masters degree from URI) said he checked and the Crusader's record all-time against URI is 9-2. Also, want to give public kudos to Dave for leading this as he has been living in NC for 2-3 years now and when he resided in RI, hosted pre-game events in his home for all our HC-URI basketball games and even though he no longer lives anywhere near either URI or HC, he's taken the lead (he had been HC Club of RI president for 2 years). According to URI, Holy Cross is 9-1 but the Crusaders have NEVER won a game at URI. s3.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/sidearm.nextgen.sites/gorhody.com/documents/2023/11/30/Football_Record_Book.pdf
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Post by Crucis#1 on Jun 30, 2024 18:58:04 GMT -5
HC lost 14-0. The game was played September 17, 1977. I was at the game and remember briefing talking to Ronnie Perry Jr, about the upcoming season. www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/holy-cross/1977-schedule.htmlThe schools listed as non-major on the schedule, UNH, URI, BU, UMass, & UConn, were in the Yankee Conference, which was a non scholarship, conference in the College Division. HC was briefly in the Yankee Conference, for IIRC, two seasons (1972 and 1973,) before withdrawing.
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Post by longsuffering on Jul 1, 2024 0:19:26 GMT -5
I did not think of the Yankee Conference of old as non-scholarship although I know they were considered non-major. My high school classmate Kevin "Chunky" Moran played at UMass and I know he was recruited so I just assumed he had an athletic scholarship.
In any case there is no comparison between that league and today's non-scholarship Pioneer League as the six New England State U's took football seriously and played the Ivies and other major colleges in New England which were just HC and BC.
Despite all the D-1 schools in New England today, only the four Ivies and thr two Jesuits were D-1 equivalents (University Division) in the six state region back then. Even though with Harry Agganis in the fifties BU played the national iron, the Terriers and the Northeastern Huskies were in the College Division in 1970 along with Lehigh, Lafayette and Bucknell.
In 1970 UMass OOC opponents were Buffalo, Dartmouth, BU, Holy Cross and BC in front of 17,200 in Amherst. URI played Brown, BU and Temple.
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Post by sader81 on Jul 1, 2024 5:52:52 GMT -5
I did not think of the Yankee Conference of old as non-scholarship although I know they were considered non-major. My high school classmate Kevin "Chunky" Moran played at UMass and I know he was recruited so I just assumed he had an athletic scholarship. The Yankee Conference was not non-scholarship. I was offered a full grant in aid scholarship by several schools. The Ivies, however, only offered scholarships based on “need.”
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Post by res on Jul 1, 2024 19:54:49 GMT -5
I did not think of the Yankee Conference of old as non-scholarship although I know they were considered non-major. My high school classmate Kevin "Chunky" Moran played at UMass and I know he was recruited so I just assumed he had an athletic scholarship. In any case there is no comparison between that league and today's non-scholarship Pioneer League as the six New England State U's took football seriously and played the Ivies and other major colleges in New England which were just HC and BC. Despite all the D-1 schools in New England today, only the four Ivies and thr two Jesuits were D-1 equivalents (University Division) in the six state region back then. Even though with Harry Agganis in the fifties BU played the national iron, the Terriers and the Northeastern Huskies were in the College Division in 1970 along with Lehigh, Lafayette and Bucknell. In 1970 UMass OOC opponents were Buffalo, Dartmouth, BU, Holy Cross and BC in front of 17,200 in Amherst. URI played Brown, BU and Temple. The "University" and "College" division labels for football were only used through the end of the 1972 season. In 1973, they became Division 1 and Division 2. The Yankee Conference remained in Division 1. This lasted through the end of the 1977 season. In 1978, the split between what are now referred to as FBS and FCS occurred. And Division 3 was added.
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Post by res on Jul 1, 2024 20:03:16 GMT -5
What confuses matters a little is that the northeastern schools were already operating in a sort of three tier system thanks to the sportswriters of greater New York. They voted on the best teams in the region and presented awards at the end of the season. The top "big" school was awarded the Lambert Trophy. There were also awards made to the top intermediate and small schools.
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Post by longsuffering on Jul 1, 2024 22:05:12 GMT -5
What confuses matters a little is that the northeastern schools were already operating in a sort of three tier system thanks to the sportswriters of greater New York. They voted on the best teams in the region and presented awards at the end of the season. The top "big" school was awarded the Lambert Trophy. There were also awards made to the top intermediate and small schools. Do you remember the mythical East Indies football conference? It didn't exist in any official record book but it did in the Boston Globe Sports Section which listed the standings, always referring to the Eastern Independents as a mythical conference. Holy Cross was not in the standings as I recall, but BC, Penn State, Syracuse, West Virginia and others were. Maybe a BC guy was in charge of it and exiled HC or maybe we played more college division teams.
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Post by timholycross on Jul 2, 2024 10:11:21 GMT -5
What confuses matters a little is that the northeastern schools were already operating in a sort of three tier system thanks to the sportswriters of greater New York. They voted on the best teams in the region and presented awards at the end of the season. The top "big" school was awarded the Lambert Trophy. There were also awards made to the top intermediate and small schools. Do you remember the mythical East Indies football conference? It didn't exist in any official record book but it did in the Boston Globe Sports Section which listed the standings, always referring to the Eastern Independents as a mythical conference. Holy Cross was not in the standings as I recall, but BC, Penn State, Syracuse, West Virginia and others were. Maybe a BC guy was in charge of it and exiled HC or maybe we played more college division teams. I remember that Globe creation. I'd say the others were Army, Navy and Pitt for sure. Maybe some (or all) of Rutgers, Temple and Villanova. Only Penn State, Pitt and WVU were good at the time, that's for sure.
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Post by trimster on Jul 2, 2024 11:00:38 GMT -5
Of those 10 mentioned, HC played 5 in 1973. Temple may have been the best of the ten. Not sure how good Penn State was that year.
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Post by CHC8485 on Jul 2, 2024 11:46:01 GMT -5
They could not have been that bad, pretty sure 1973 is the season John Cappelletti won the Heisman Trophy.
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Post by bfoley82 on Jul 2, 2024 12:08:08 GMT -5
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Post by timholycross on Jul 2, 2024 13:49:38 GMT -5
Of those 10 mentioned, HC played 5 in 1973. Temple may have been the best of the ten. Not sure how good Penn State was that year.
Uninvited, a la Colgate in the early 30s. 9-1 in 1973 should have gotten them something.
Typical BC season in the 1970s. 7-4, thrashed a good Temple team, lost to Syracuse, whose only other win was the 5-3 freeze-out of HC.
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Post by Crucis#1 on Jul 2, 2024 16:16:50 GMT -5
I did not think of the Yankee Conference of old as non-scholarship although I know they were considered non-major. My high school classmate Kevin "Chunky" Moran played at UMass and I know he was recruited so I just assumed he had an athletic scholarship. The Yankee Conference was not non-scholarship. I was offered a full grant in aid scholarship by several schools. The Ivies, however, only offered scholarships based on “need.” IIRC, in the late 1960’s there was a push on campus by several faculty members to eliminate athletic grants in aid, spearheaded by Prof. Vincent McBrien. Holy Cross joining the Yankee Conference was a cost cutting decision to provide athletic aid based on need. Page 12, of the September 24, 1971 edition of “The Crusader”, provides the rationale for HC entering the Yankee Conference. “The most attractive piece of bait, which lured HC into the YC, is the interest of the Yankee Conference officials in awarding athletic grants in aid, on the basis of need, rather than the basis of ability.” crossworks.holycross.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2602&context=crusaderSometime after 1973, the Yankee Conference reversed that decision and began awarding athletic scholarships based on ability, not financial need. yankeeconference.com
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Post by purplehaze on Jul 2, 2024 16:37:42 GMT -5
Is this a basketball 24-25 schedule thread ?
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Post by hchoops on Jul 2, 2024 17:06:59 GMT -5
It WAS
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Post by revj on Jul 2, 2024 18:06:48 GMT -5
Can we please go back🤣.....
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Post by trimster on Jul 3, 2024 6:32:43 GMT -5
D1 Docket now shows OOC opponents Harvard, Qpac and Siena with dates TBD. The Harvard game is listed as a home game.
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