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Post by efg72 on Apr 30, 2024 15:01:21 GMT -5
Who suggested he isn't part of the lineup? While I think every player has a critical offseason to continue developing, he should get plenty of minutes as a starter or off the bench. Nobody posting on this board is on the staff—at least, I don't think so—and they will make those decisions.
Naturally, players need to have a few skills to make this a better team: shooters, scorers, rebounders, defenders, passers, length, height, strength, and quickness. It is fair to suggest that the incoming student-athletes have most of the skills we need to improve.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Apr 30, 2024 15:02:43 GMT -5
My guess is that Green, Richards, Singelton, or Williams will be part of the starting backcourt along with Boston. Are there any other options?
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Post by efg72 on Apr 30, 2024 15:08:04 GMT -5
The previous post suggested Batch would start with Boston, and I think he will get his minutes but
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Post by Ignutz on Apr 30, 2024 15:12:50 GMT -5
Loos like Gabe Warren and another kid HC offered last year, McGlothin, were teammates for a year or two at John Paul ll in Plano. McGlothin is headed to Richmond in the fall. From what I have read, JP ll has been one heck of a team in recent years. Is there an echo in here??
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Post by Ignutz on Apr 30, 2024 15:19:23 GMT -5
Get an impact big & that's a pretty nice front line....Warren, Kenney, Transfer Big.....with Batch & Boston in the backcourt....Nugent, Richard, Green, Singleton, Williams, Ryan, Hare off the bench....not bad Most definitely looks like a solid step forward in the overall talent level.
Certainly more than we experienced with FHCBN. There will be some spirited competition in the Blaney gym - and in the PL.
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Post by Chu Chu on Apr 30, 2024 16:48:14 GMT -5
"Willing to do anything to win," Warren said. "I will constantly work hard to make sure I am the best version of myself for the team and my coaches."
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Post by longsuffering on Apr 30, 2024 17:39:24 GMT -5
Get an impact big & that's a pretty nice front line....Warren, Kenney, Transfer Big.....with Batch & Boston in the backcourt....Nugent, Richard, Green, Singleton, Williams, Ryan, Hare off the bench....not bad Most definitely looks like a solid step forward in the overall talent level.
Certainly more than we experienced with FHCBN. There will be some spirited competition in the Blaney gym - and in the PL.BN brought in Joe Octave which has similarities to the Warren pick-up. BN had a few head-scratchers also of course.
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Post by longsuffering on Apr 30, 2024 17:54:25 GMT -5
Who suggested he isn't part of the lineup? While I think every player has a critical offseason to continue developing, he should get plenty of minutes as a starter or off the bench. Nobody posting on this board is on the staff—at least, I don't think so—and they will make those decisions. Naturally, players need to have a few skills to make this a better team: shooters, scorers, rebounders, defenders, passers, length, height, strength, and quickness. It is fair to suggest that the incoming student-athletes have most of the skills we need to improve. I was responding to the post where Warren was projected in the starting lineup in Nugent's spot before the first practice has been held. That of course is a perfectly acceptable opinion but I am thinking Joe has the opportunity to both improve on his team leading .403 shooting from deep and develop an inside offensive game between seasons, both of which would benefit the other. The issue could be moot if we don't get someone for the five position who can start right away. There must be a ton of competition in the portal for those rare players.
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Post by trimster on Apr 30, 2024 18:03:58 GMT -5
Hopefully, this works.
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Post by efg72 on Apr 30, 2024 18:53:40 GMT -5
Trimester
With Colgate likely to lose Smith our six recruits being brought in and top nine, if it all comes together, on paper will be better than the rest of the teams in the league- despite the youth
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Post by Non Alum Dave on May 1, 2024 4:39:00 GMT -5
To be fair to the former coach, he also brought in that Gerale Gates fellow; wasn't too bad. Dorsey and Townsel, too. And speaking of Townsel - thinking of him got me thinking about what I wouldn't mind seeing with this last recruit/transfer; maybe a 6-7/6-8 version of him; someone that doesn't have to be a big scorer, but can rebound and defend some, mix it up inside. I think that would complete the rest of the group nicely. IMO someone with 2 years eligibility would also be a best case scenario as well, as it will make the team a bit older (a bit on the young side right now), and it would help balance the classes a bit too. That's not asking for too much, is it?
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Post by rgs318 on May 1, 2024 6:58:32 GMT -5
One can always ask...but sometimes the answer is a simple "no."
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Post by trimster on May 1, 2024 7:05:09 GMT -5
It wouldn’t bother me if they went into next year with 12 scholarship players so they have two scholarships to work with this summer in their recruiting for the class of ‘29. BTW, next year begins in a month with the beginning of summer session.
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Post by Tom on May 1, 2024 10:15:03 GMT -5
My guess is that Green, Richards, Singelton, or Williams will be part of the starting backcourt along with Boston. Maybe Singleton or Williams instead of Batch. I don't think Green or Richards will be paired with Boston. I just don't see two freshmen starting in the backcourt. Maybe as the season progresses, but not right away
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Post by efg72 on May 1, 2024 10:20:57 GMT -5
Tom you could be right, but I am sure the games during the summer and practices in the fall will sort it out.
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Post by hcnj on May 2, 2024 0:07:44 GMT -5
I think there's a good chance Green could start at the 2 or Richard at the 3. Amongst those 2 plus Warren, Singleton, Williams, Batch, Nugent no one there earned a lock. Williams might be the steadiest but he might be the least likely to fill in the lost points. If we don't get a xfer 4/5 then one or two may also compete at PF to play with our already undersized big CK.
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Post by hchoops on May 2, 2024 7:12:57 GMT -5
We do not know about positions or lineups for the upcoming year, but Joe Nugent played the 4 exclusively last season. In the very rare occasions when both Caleb and Louth were in foul trouble, Joe even played the 5.
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Post by nextmanup on May 2, 2024 17:54:00 GMT -5
We do not know about positions or lineups for the upcoming year, but Joe Nugent played the 4 exclusively last season. In the very rare occasions when both Caleb and Louth were in foul trouble, Joe even played the 5. We don’t know the rotations but we do know this staff is darn good at recruiting. Gabe looks like an amazing addition to this roster. Big time talent and compliments the current roster nicely.
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Post by hchoops on May 3, 2024 11:33:10 GMT -5
One of Gabe’s former teammates at JPII was UConn’s newest recruit, Liam McNeeley, who had transferred to national power, Montverde, in Florida..
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Post by hcnj on May 4, 2024 0:56:16 GMT -5
We do not know about positions or lineups for the upcoming year, but Joe Nugent played the 4 exclusively last season. In the very rare occasions when both Caleb and Louth were in foul trouble, Joe even played the 5. Joe played there defensively because he can rebound and out of necessity. Without a xfer or last minute '24 he'll likely do the same thing this year. IMO that's not necessarily a plus unless he expands his low game.
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Post by hchoops on May 16, 2024 16:11:04 GMT -5
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Post by Tom on May 17, 2024 11:54:07 GMT -5
We do not know about positions or lineups for the upcoming year, but Joe Nugent played the 4 exclusively last season. In the very rare occasions when both Caleb and Louth were in foul trouble, Joe even played the 5. Joe played there defensively because he can rebound and out of necessity. Without a xfer or last minute '24 he'll likely do the same thing this year. IMO that's not necessarily a plus unless he expands his low game. Ryan, Hare, and Feroah are the only people on the roster taller than Nugent on the roster, and two of them have never played a minute of NCAA basketball. Of the other 6'6" guys, I'm not sure a Green or Richard are big enough to defend the 4. Nugent is not only among the taller people on the roster, he's also a pretty solid 6'6" Unless Ryan steps up and is ready to play major minutes at center (or Hare) sliding Kenney into the 4, I'm thinking Nugent until someone else shows me they can do it
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Post by hchoops on May 17, 2024 12:11:38 GMT -5
FWIW On the list of incoming players posted yesterday, Richard was listed as a forward, and both Warren and Feroah as Guard-Forwards. I recall that last season when Nugent was on the bench, 6’4” Joe Octave played the 4; not that this was ideal. But Joe O. outrebounded Joe N., 6.5(second on the team) to 4.4. (Joe O. did average 3 minutes more per game than Joe N.) So as you know, height does not always determine effectiveness, in rebounding, defense or offense.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on May 17, 2024 12:39:13 GMT -5
Part of Joe Octave’s advantage on rebounding (vs Joe N) is the o-boards where Joe O got 45 rebounds versus just 18 for Joe N who, as a frequent three point shooter, was typically farther away from the basket than Joe O. Does this make sense?
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Post by hchoops on May 17, 2024 12:55:18 GMT -5
Part of Joe Octave’s advantage on rebounding (vs Joe N) is the o-boards where Joe O got 45 rebounds versus just 18 for Joe N who, as a frequent three point shooter, was typically farther away from the basket than Joe O. Does this make sense? Yes. Somewhat. Nugent had 139 three point attempts. Octave had 123. Joe O. had 140 defensive boards to 119 from Joe N.
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