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Post by efg72 on May 1, 2024 18:54:11 GMT -5
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Post by newfieguy74 on May 1, 2024 18:59:01 GMT -5
The list excludes schools with fewer than 4,000 students.
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Post by rgs318 on May 2, 2024 8:44:25 GMT -5
Why? That seems rather arbitrary.
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Post by hcpride on May 2, 2024 10:33:34 GMT -5
Why? That seems rather arbitrary. Our methodology was as follows. After disqualifying the Ivies (and we used the Ivy-plus yardstick, which includes Stanford, MIT, Duke and the University of Chicago, as well as the eight classics Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Brown, Penn, Columbia, Dartmouth and Cornell), we started with 1,743 colleges of at least 4,000 students (understanding that small liberal arts schools have always offered a more boutique experience and are hard to compare with research universities). Using 2022 admissions data, the most recent available, we then screened for schools with high standardized test scores (our New Ivies average a robust 1482 SAT and 33 ACT) and where at least half the applicants supplied the scores, regardless of whether they were required to do so for admission—in other words, places that still rely heavily on objective measures of success. We also screened with a selectivity yardstick (below a 20% admission rate at private schools, 50% at publics). And then from there, we took the 32 remaining schools and surveyed our hiring manager respondents about each one.www.forbes.com/sites/emmawhitford/2024/04/29/the-new-ivies-as-employers-sour-on-the-super-elite-these-20-colleges-shine/?sh=28710d9a438f
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Post by newfieguy74 on May 2, 2024 17:24:42 GMT -5
Translation of "boutique experience"= this would add too many schools to the list and we don't feel like working that hard.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on May 2, 2024 19:59:48 GMT -5
The author also tossed all the schools in the University of California system. Even though in August 2023, the same author listed four universities in the University of California system in the Forbes Top 25 colleges list.N For reasons not explained, Northeastern didn't make the list. Northeastern had 98,000 applicants, and a 6.8 percent acceptance rate. In 2023, MU had a 50 percent yield rate.
Also, NYU didn't make the list. Acceptance rate of 9.4 percent, and yield of 54 percent.
And Tufts should have made the list, with nearly 7,000 undergraduates, so above the arbitrary cutoff of 4,00
Forbes itself is now owned by an investment group headquartered in Hong Kong, with the name of integrated Whale.
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Post by xhaav on May 2, 2024 21:14:42 GMT -5
Hahaha re Forbes. It’s been such a useless entity for so long. It needs to just go away.
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Post by longsuffering on May 8, 2024 10:48:05 GMT -5
Forbes Magazine got a new 15 minutes of fame/infamy yesterday.
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Post by DFW HOYA on May 8, 2024 15:07:29 GMT -5
For reasons not explained, Northeastern didn't make the list. Northeastern had 98,000 applicants, and a 6.8 percent acceptance rate. In 2023, MU had a 50 percent yield rate. Also, NYU didn't make the list. Acceptance rate of 9.4 percent, and yield of 54 percent. And Tufts should have made the list, with nearly 7,000 undergraduates, so above the arbitrary cutoff of 4,00 Forbes itself is now owned by an investment group headquartered in Hong Kong, with the name of integrated Whale. It was just to get clicks. Apparently, it succeeded. That said, Northeastern's gaming of the admissions process is not a sign of greatness. www.bostonmagazine.com/news/2014/08/26/how-northeastern-gamed-the-college-rankings/
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on May 8, 2024 15:31:43 GMT -5
Here's a great way to game the USNWR rankings: accept 100% of early decision applicants and 5% of regular applicants: voila, you fill the class and your overall acceptance rate plummets and your yield skyrockets
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Post by hcpride on May 8, 2024 15:35:58 GMT -5
/\ /\ Yes. And select heavily for 'demonstrated interest' on that 5% (just to really grease the skids on yield).
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Post by newfieguy74 on May 8, 2024 17:29:54 GMT -5
I was talking to an acquaintance this weekend. He has a son who's a junior at Delbarton in NJ and the son wants to go to HC. I told him (I hope correctly) that based on the discussions on this board ED is the way to go.
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Post by hcpride on May 9, 2024 6:09:28 GMT -5
/\ /\ If the student/family is certain Holy Cross is clearly the first choice and there is no need/desire to compare aid packages from various schools as part of the process, Early Decision may be a wise course of action. (This assumes an otherwise strong applicant and, of course, is no guarantee of admission.)
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on May 9, 2024 6:11:18 GMT -5
For reasons not explained, Northeastern didn't make the list. Northeastern had 98,000 applicants, and a 6.8 percent acceptance rate. In 2023, MU had a 50 percent yield rate. Also, NYU didn't make the list. Acceptance rate of 9.4 percent, and yield of 54 percent. And Tufts should have made the list, with nearly 7,000 undergraduates, so above the arbitrary cutoff of 4,00 Forbes itself is now owned by an investment group headquartered in Hong Kong, with the name of integrated Whale. It was just to get clicks. Apparently, it succeeded. That said, Northeastern's gaming of the admissions process is not a sign of greatness. www.bostonmagazine.com/news/2014/08/26/how-northeastern-gamed-the-college-rankings/And Georgetown's gaming of the endowment. In 2021, Georgetown announced a major and worthwhile initiative toward sustainability. www.georgetown.edu/news/georgetown-advances-commitment-to-sustainability-through-new-partnership-aimed-at-reducing-energy-consumption/What the announcement didn't say was that the concessionaire providing utilities to the university gave (loaned) $800 million to GU for the privilege of providing energy to the University. GU plugged the $800 million into the endowment, which is why GU's endowment, long a laggard, outperformed every (?) other major endowment in 2021. The facts were revealed on the last page of the audited financial statement. Such a deal!!
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