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Post by purplehaze on May 14, 2024 13:18:58 GMT -5
With an eight team league this has a positive scheduling factor - with seven, each team had a Saturday with a bye or non-league opponent, often at the end of the season. Now, like the Ivy, we're 8 teams which makes 4 league games most Saturdays - much cleaner. (I wonder which ooc opponent in '25 will be dropped by HC and will there be a cost?)
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Post by hcnj on May 14, 2024 13:33:12 GMT -5
Starting to wonder about that myself, but I think at worst that's the last remaining self handicap Not that it matters (but maybe it does), but Richmond is ranked higher than HC on the numerous national lists of liberal arts colleges. right, and Richmond didn't make the decision without a lot of confidence that this will work out for them. We've had many, many recruits that were recruited by both schools. Up until Chesney and still with bball I dread the Richmond offer.
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Post by purplehaze on May 14, 2024 13:35:40 GMT -5
It was easy for Richmond to make the move because they were only associate CAA members for football (all other sports in A-10) Much more complicated for Wm and Mary because they're all sports members of the CAA, and the league would certainly not let them leave for football only
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Post by Sons of Vaval on May 14, 2024 13:44:47 GMT -5
It would almost be weird, at this point, if Villanova doesn't leave the CAA for the PL.
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Post by alum on May 14, 2024 13:45:00 GMT -5
This is the best PL news in years.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on May 14, 2024 13:46:41 GMT -5
I think this should help Coach Curran's already strong recruiting in Virginia: "You'll get to play a couple of road games that mom & dad can drive to easily"
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Post by Crucis#1 on May 14, 2024 13:47:12 GMT -5
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Post by hc69 on May 14, 2024 13:51:37 GMT -5
Is the AI going by the wayside? If they wanted to be in a conference where there were no conference-wide academic standards, there were already in one.
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Post by hcpride on May 14, 2024 14:01:24 GMT -5
AI wasn’t the barrier to HC excellence. 5th years made the difference (as we know) so I suspect the idiotic PL position on regular redshirts has gone bye bye.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on May 14, 2024 14:04:58 GMT -5
Wow--there are some really despondent Spider fans on that board--as entertaining as the Fordham board has always been, I'd like to get on it and welcome them but I think it is a pay board.
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Post by efg72 on May 14, 2024 14:06:56 GMT -5
With the addition of Richmond to the PL for football, and the possibility of another member or two joining the league, our #1843 is a critical tool to address the needs and future of Holy Cross Football and Basketball.
thank you Football44, Whitey, and Roger
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Post by hcpride on May 14, 2024 14:09:56 GMT -5
Wow--there are some really despondent Spider fans on that board--as entertaining as the Fordham board has always been, I'd like to get on it and welcome them but I think it is a pay board. Probably feels v like a step down to a lesser football league comprised of distant schools they barely (if at all) know. OK, I overstated it but to some extent I understand their “football fan” issues with the move. Bbbbut, a concurrent Nova move will greatly ease their angst.
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Post by football44 on May 14, 2024 14:10:09 GMT -5
With the addition of Richmond to the PL for football, and the possibility of another member or two joining the league, our #1843 is a critical tool to address the needs and future of Holy Cross Football and Basketball. thank you Football44, Whitey, and Roger Thank you efg72! For all on the board, plenty of room at 1843LLC for additional members. Lots of good news on the way for both football and men's basketball.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on May 14, 2024 14:36:00 GMT -5
Richmond presser on the move from CAA to PL:
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Post by hchoops on May 14, 2024 15:09:50 GMT -5
Not very enthusiastic by the coach From what the coach said, it certainly seems as if redshirts will be an option for all PL schools.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on May 14, 2024 15:13:41 GMT -5
Not very enthusiastic by the coach He does give a nice shoutout to HC and Fordham towards the end, insinuating PL football -- at least at the top of the conference -- has shown it can hang with top FCS programs and beat some FBS programs. In looking at Huesman's resume, he's spent virtually his entire playing and coaching career in either Tennessee (Chattanooga and Memphis) and Virginia (Richmond, W&M) and I think there's a perception that the PL / northern football teams are inferior (he's not entirely wrong). However, this isn't your older brother's CAA. Richmond's program has also taken a bit of a step back compared to where they once were -- they won't come into the league head and shoulders above everyone else.
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Post by mm67 on May 14, 2024 15:34:05 GMT -5
A few smacks on the football field will disabuse Richmond fans of their inherent bias against all PL teams. Played Richmond in the '60's at Fitton. HC won the game. Don't know if they were University level (as was HC) or College level. Totally irrelevant. However, the Spiders might be in for a rude awakening, I hope.
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Post by JRGNYR on May 14, 2024 15:45:11 GMT -5
Exciting news for Patriot League football. Very encouraging to see. The winds of change keep blowing.
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Post by newfieguy74 on May 14, 2024 15:52:21 GMT -5
The coach is holding his nose, but I don't care. This is good for HC and good for the PL, and maybe good for Richmond too.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on May 14, 2024 15:54:29 GMT -5
Is the AI going by the wayside? Richmond is ranked higher than Holy cross in the USN&WR National LAC rankings rankings. Richmond is also quite rich, endowment dollars per student are 3x that of HC. Also richer than GU on the same measure. So the endowment per student pecking order for PL football schools: Richmond Colgate Lafayette Holy Cross Bucknell Lehigh Georgetown Fordham
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Post by Ignutz on May 14, 2024 15:56:41 GMT -5
The CAA and SoCon football membership includes twenty-four schools. Giving due consideration to both football and academics, most people would not rank the majority of the CAA and SoCon schools with PL football members. From the CAA, I'd certainly include Villanova, Richmond and William & Mary - with a half-nod to Elon. From the SoCon, I'd include Furman, and give a half-nod to Wofford. And that's it.
Clearly, the Patriot League is a better match for the Spiders if the school's administration wants to be with similar academic institutions. I think this is a very good move for both the PL and for URichmond, and I can foresee more at-large playoff bids in the Patriot League's future.
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Post by hcpride on May 14, 2024 15:57:08 GMT -5
I wonder if they sort of sprung this on the coach...he looked and sounded like he didn't think this was a great idea. Like Brooksie on Rick Carter?
Interesting that they don't compete much recruiting wise v W&M but a whole lot versus various Patriot League teams.
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Post by Ignutz on May 14, 2024 15:58:14 GMT -5
Is the AI going by the wayside? Richmond is ranked higher than Holy cross in the USN&WR National LAC rankings rankings. Richmond is also quite rich, endowment dollars per student are 3x that of HC. Also richer than GU on the same measure. So the endowment per student pecking order for PL football schools: Richmond Colgate Lafayette Holy Cross Bucknell Lehigh Georgetown Fordham Tobacco money has made for solid endowments across the South.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on May 14, 2024 15:59:36 GMT -5
Phreek- would your investigative skills enable us to learn what Richmond spends on football to compare to HC and other PL teams?
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on May 14, 2024 16:01:22 GMT -5
The APR is very important to TPTB. Thus, the AI will stay, IMO
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