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Post by alum on Sept 10, 2024 10:11:22 GMT -5
44--Are the other PL teams' NIL collectives more like the "official" HC one which seems to be a marketplace where one can contract with a particular athlete or more like your program where you seek to make funds available directly to athletes in coordination with coaches? (Assuming that I am describing your collective correctly.) No! The other PL schools are soliciting money from their alumni base and other contributors to offer or incentivize players to come to their school or to keep an existing player from leaving the program. And yes these types of programs are coordinated with the head coach. What sons of vaval showed was Holy Cross showing pictures of athletes that any company could hire them as a spokesman. Like you see a number of college athletes doing commercials on TV now. That is not a true NIL program. That is what I assumed. Thanks.
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Post by midwestsader05 on Sept 10, 2024 10:42:41 GMT -5
Speaking of NILs (my least favorite subject, along with the transfer portal), do you get what you pay for? Hmmm. From The Replay from The Athletic: I know you aren’t insinuating this 1970 but complete apples And oranges with P4 NIL collectives v FCS collectives. Long term FCS success will still come down to old school recruitment of the right kid, developing them to their max potential which requires retaining them for 4-5 years. BUT - it’s gonna be table stakes to have something for your top players. SDSU was able to retain their fifth year studs like Tucker Kraft, Isiah Davis and now QB Gronowski not by offering them 250k a piece (which they were offered by P4) but by giving them a modest amount and leaning into local deals/advocacy in their respective communities. This is the way for FCS. The right kid will take 10-15K from an FCS program that took a chance on him/developed him and graduate from that college vs 200K to be a rented player for 1-2 years at large FBS. Again - not every kid, but the right kids.
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Post by midwestsader05 on Sept 10, 2024 10:52:00 GMT -5
No! The other PL schools are soliciting money from their alumni base and other contributors to offer or incentivize players to come to their school or to keep an existing player from leaving the program. And yes these types of programs are coordinated with the head coach. What sons of vaval showed was Holy Cross showing pictures of athletes that any company could hire them as a spokesman. Like you see a number of college athletes doing commercials on TV now. That is not a true NIL program. That is what I assumed. Thanks. ~90% of all NIL distributions are facilitated by a school’s respective NIL collective at the FCS level. Very little dollars relatively speaking are going through an open marketplace (like MOGL)and contracting individually with players. Open Dorse is the largest NIL open market place opendorse.com/ as they only take like an 8% fee. Others like MOGL take 20%.
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Post by hc1996 on Sept 10, 2024 12:37:40 GMT -5
Are there any examples from the other PL schools that appear to be a step ahead of where we are in terms of NIL that we can provide the athletic department? Peer pressure helps.
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Post by alum on Sept 10, 2024 14:43:03 GMT -5
Since we are talking about NIL and how HC is so hands off about these operations, I thought I would share details about an email I received today. I get UCONN Athletics emails because I occasionally buy tickets. I received one today which was a solicitation for coaches to attend a day and a half coaching clinic with Geno for $150 (a very good deal although I realize that the assistants will likely handle much of it.) What was interesting about this is that UCONN Athletics itself was promoting this event which was actually sponsored by Storrs Central (storrscentral.com.) I had not heard of that group, but a bit of research led me to this article in Hartford Business Journal www.hartfordbusiness.com/article/storrs-central-a-uconn-sports-news-and-inside-access-subscription-service-is-a-nil-revenueStorrs Central is tied into Bleeding Blue for Good which is a UConn NIL collective. Another, larger I think, collective is D'Amelio Huskies Collective. I don't expect HC to go as all in as UConn but if our PL friends can do this, I just don't get why HC can't.
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Post by football44 on Sept 10, 2024 15:41:21 GMT -5
Since we are talking about NIL and how HC is so hands off about these operations, I thought I would share details about an email I received today. I get UCONN Athletics emails because I occasionally buy tickets. I received one today which was a solicitation for coaches to attend a day and a half coaching clinic with Geno for $150 (a very good deal although I realize that the assistants will likely handle much of it.) What was interesting about this is that UCONN Athletics itself was promoting this event which was actually sponsored by Storrs Central (storrscentral.com.) I had not heard of that group, but a bit of research led me to this article in Hartford Business Journal www.hartfordbusiness.com/article/storrs-central-a-uconn-sports-news-and-inside-access-subscription-service-is-a-nil-revenueStorrs Central is tied into Bleeding Blue for Good which is a UConn NIL collective. Another, larger I think, collective is D'Amelio Huskies Collective. I don't expect HC to go as all in as UConn but if our PL friends can do this, I just don't get why HC can't. Holier than thou attitude. They are selling their 90 Wide program as their version of an NIL which it’s not. Also they view the NIL program as competition to the CAF.
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Post by rgs318 on Sept 10, 2024 16:15:29 GMT -5
Seeing the two programs as in competition can be self-defeating. But that may change.
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Post by football44 on Sept 10, 2024 17:25:55 GMT -5
Seeing the two programs as in coimpetition can be self-defeating. But that may change. It has already been self defeating. Not sure it will change. Could only hope rgs.
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