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Post by Tom on Jun 14, 2024 8:56:22 GMT -5
Why did Druzi wait so long given the logjam that's most likely to exist for a spot on a team? Based on the tweet above, I would assume it has something to do with the recent NCAA decision. Maybe he waited until he was sure he could play someplace else next season
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Post by Tom on Jun 14, 2024 9:08:27 GMT -5
Probably straying a little too far from athletics, but as a prospective employer, I would be hesitant to hire someone who went to four different colleges to get a Bachelor's. Two is not uncommon today, but four seems like a lot. Maybe the job market today is so good it won't matter It won't matter...all he has to say is I was a D-1 athlete and that fixes everything. Maybe. I guess it depends on the decision maker. A business owner that is a booster of a school would likely grab someone from his school, but maybe not a D-I athlete from somewhere else I'm kind of self centered and want the best person for the job. Perhaps if I was hiring a sales person and I thought the D-I athlete thing might open some doors, I could factor that in. I'm a sports guy, so maybe I could tip the scale a little bit, but I just don't see typical hiring managers thinking that a former D-I athlete fixes everything
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Post by hchoops on Jun 14, 2024 17:36:34 GMT -5
Just read that Coleman Hawkins committed to Kansas State at the price of $2 mm for one season.
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Post by longsuffering on Jun 14, 2024 17:52:04 GMT -5
The players that Coach Jerome Tang had his first season were good enough to get to the elite eight, now for his third season he has assembled a Frankenstein type roster from the portal with only one holdover projected to play a significant role. It will be interesting to see if Coach Tang can coach this patchwork quilt as well as he can throw around millions of dollars.
The environment UConn has developed with their two championship MBB and WBB head coaches is looking pretty darn good as the way to conduct top level college basketball in this challenging time period.
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Post by trimster on Jun 14, 2024 20:03:13 GMT -5
Just read that Coleman Hawkins committed to Kansas State at the price of $2 mm for one season. Things are getting truly bizarre. It is so sad to see.
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Post by HC92 on Jun 15, 2024 20:50:48 GMT -5
The players that Coach Jerome Tang had his first season were good enough to get to the elite eight, now for his third season he has assembled a Frankenstein type roster from the portal with only one holdover projected to play a significant role. It will be interesting to see if Coach Tang can coach this patchwork quilt as well as he can throw around millions of dollars. The environment UConn has developed with their two championship MBB and WBB head coaches is looking pretty darn good as the way to conduct top level college basketball in this challenging time period. Agree on UConn doing a pretty good job while maintaining something that looks like traditional roster assembly. They’ll obviously take transfers but there is some semblance of continuity from year to year.
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Post by mm67 on Jun 15, 2024 21:31:09 GMT -5
Coleman Hawkins(not the great jazz saxophonist) move to State is sad for some but certainly not for young Coleman and his family. Peace.
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Post by hc6774 on Jun 16, 2024 6:24:35 GMT -5
Just read that Coleman Hawkins committed to Kansas State at the price of $2 mm for one season. It would be nice to see an analysis of the tax exposure to these 'private' deals.
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Post by timholycross on Jun 16, 2024 9:00:44 GMT -5
Just read that Coleman Hawkins committed to Kansas State at the price of $2 mm for one season. It would be nice to see an analysis of the tax exposure to these 'private' deals. Wonder if they'll start charging these new millionaires state income tax based on where their games were played in a given season like they do in the pros.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jun 16, 2024 9:37:28 GMT -5
I'm expecting to hear stories of the athletes who got a $150,000 NIL deal, spent it all on a sports car, and didn't realize they could owe $30,000 on income taxes...
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Post by mm67 on Jun 16, 2024 10:03:04 GMT -5
State tax policy might play an important role in NIL based program choices. Fla.. AZ looking good. Ca., People's Republic of Oregon, Taxachussetts(BC), yikes! Don't know much about state income tax rates at Big Ten athletic programs. Assume the South would have the advantage. Sort of like retirees choosing where to settle. Of course God forbid academics and all that other silly college stuff would have anything to do with the choice for many. Money talks.
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Post by Tom on Jun 16, 2024 19:22:52 GMT -5
It would be nice to see an analysis of the tax exposure to these 'private' deals. Wonder if they'll start charging these new millionaires state income tax based on where their games were played in a given season like they do in the pros. Pro's are paid for games in the various states. Right now, in theory, these kids are being paid for the name, image, and likeness.
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Post by hchoops on Jun 18, 2024 8:51:47 GMT -5
From the comments in The Athletic:
Brendan Marks reported that Hawkins was expected to make $2 million in a not robust market. It's not a stretch to say that Kansas State has spent $8 to $10 million in NIL in basketball, and therefore $15 to $20 million on football based on roster size and quality of teams. Who knew that Kansas State had like $23 to $30 million in endorsement money? Or was that $2 million highly inflated?
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Post by WorcesterGray on Jul 11, 2024 19:02:26 GMT -5
The long and winding road. . . .
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Post by football44 on Jul 12, 2024 5:00:14 GMT -5
Here’s an interesting fact about how influential the NIL program is affecting all sports. The G league team owned by the NBA shut its doors and fired the staff because they couldn’t compete with the college NIL program. What’s that say about the future of collegiate sports?
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Post by sader1970 on Jul 12, 2024 5:08:12 GMT -5
That they will put the NBA and the NFL out of business? 🤷♂️
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Post by football44 on Jul 12, 2024 7:23:15 GMT -5
By the time this is all over they'll be paying 13 year old 7 on 7 future stars big time NIL money. Look what they just paid Archie Manning's grandson. I was born WAY TOO Early!!
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Post by hchoops on Jul 12, 2024 7:32:05 GMT -5
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Post by Tom on Jul 12, 2024 9:05:03 GMT -5
Of the stated hundreds of millions of dollars that NCAA schools earn on sports, what percentage comes from football and mend basketball in the power conferences. I don't think the swimming & diving teams at HC is turning much of a profit. Heck, even the baseball team is probably a financial loser. If we want to follow a business model and treat all college athletes like employees, then non profitable divisions will cut shut down. If you are in a non revenue sport or a smaller school, is it better to play the game as a regular student as an extracurricular activity, or to be a paid employee for a few months but then have the sport cut because of increased red ink
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Post by football44 on Jul 12, 2024 9:37:33 GMT -5
Of the stated hundreds of millions of dollars that NCAA schools earn on sports, what percentage comes from football and mend basketball in the power conferences. I don't think the swimming & diving teams at HC is turning much of a profit. Heck, even the baseball team is probably a financial loser. If we want to follow a business model and treat all college athletes like employees, then non profitable divisions will cut shut down. If you are in a non revenue sport or a smaller school, is it better to play the game as a regular student as an extracurricular activity, or to be a paid employee for a few months but then have the sport cut because of increased red ink You are correct Tom. In the case of HC, they will need to consider dropping a number of non profitable sports. There is no reason why a school the size of HC has more sports than a school like the University of Illinois. HC athletics will be affected by all of these court and NCAA rulings at some point in time.
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Post by breezy on Jul 12, 2024 9:45:31 GMT -5
A classic -- the few will benefit greatly, the many will be deprived.
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Post by alum on Jul 12, 2024 10:01:19 GMT -5
All of this litigation is based upon interpretations of federal (and presumably state) antitrust and wage and hour statutes. There needs to be a legislative fix and all sides should invite Congress to get involved. It seems to me that some of the topics to discuss include: 1. Whether college athletes should be excluded from the definition of employees under various federal labor and employment laws. 2. Whether the NCAA and various conferences should be made exempt from antitrust laws so long as they meet certain minimum standards. 3. There needs to be a discussion of whether non scholarship athletes (the vast majority of college athletes) can meet any traditional definition of employee. 4. If athletic scholarships make a student athlete an employee, should the value of the scholarship count toward calculating what wage is due? If so, shouldn't the student pay income tax on the athletic scholarship? 5. If athletic scholarships make a student an employee, does an organ scholarship do so as well if the organ student is required to play a few concerts. Again with the tax questions. 6. If student athletes are employees, are their injuries covered by workers compensation? Congress is such a functional institution, I am sure that they can solve these questions in a couple of days.
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Jul 12, 2024 10:52:56 GMT -5
The long and winding road. . . .
That doesn't even look like him. Family going to have a bit of a road trip to watch him play. Just curious - does anyone know if Judson Martindale found a grad school home? Wonder if he got shut out.
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Post by revj on Jul 12, 2024 12:04:54 GMT -5
The long and winding road. . . .
That doesn't even look like him. Family going to have a bit of a road trip to watch him play. Just curious - does anyone know if Judson Martindale found a grad school home? Wonder if he got shut out. Per Verbal Commits (& CK), Jud landed at Cal State Northridge
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Post by hcnj on Jul 12, 2024 13:40:52 GMT -5
The long and winding road. . . .
remember when SOV had kiddingly announced "Pridgen hits the portal again", I actually bit, but Joe didnt let us down. How'd you like to interview him for a normal job opening in you're organization. "Joe, we've put a lot of time and effort into this job search. What are you're thoughts on feeling comfortable with the sector leader, known for good pay, moving along high performers, and treating employees well?" "Hmmm, that sounds a little scary, but I'd probably commit to a solid month".
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