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Post by hcpride on Jun 3, 2024 7:41:23 GMT -5
If you were one of the many who predicted a rough intro to the WNBA for Caitlyn Clark based on some pre-season comments by some veterans and ex-players , you were right.
This is the most recent play that has drawn some attention (after the game it was ruled a flagrant foul):
Not sure this is the look the WNBA leaders are hoping to see - one imagines they want to build the WNBA fanbase.
Kind of surprising her veteran teammates have not responded in a way that would protect her from flagrant cheap shots like this.
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Post by purplehaze on Jun 3, 2024 8:21:58 GMT -5
There’s a lot not to like about some of the characters in the WNBA - (others are likable of course) it’s so obvious they want to rough her up intentionally and somehow the reffing is cooperating- I don’t get it
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Post by hcpride on Jun 3, 2024 8:52:39 GMT -5
In several ways Caitlin Clark is VERY different from the perceived culture of the WNBA. That is doubtlessly part of the jealousy we see.
It seems well beyond the grasp of some of the players that her success is their success...although that is a pretty simple concept.
Super quote from the player who blindsided Clark: 'I ain’t answering no Caitlin Clark questions.' It's just so mysterious folks find so many WNBA players unlikeable.
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Post by rgs318 on Jun 3, 2024 8:59:11 GMT -5
Seems from her double negative that she would only be answering "Caitlin Clark questions." Is it possible that she does not understand correct grammar? Perhaps English is not her first language.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Jun 3, 2024 9:07:02 GMT -5
One would think that this league, which has largely been invisible for their entire existence (~30 years), would embrace Clark.
I also don't think it helps that the national media and those that typically don't venture into the sports world, have entered into the conversation and fanned the flames, claiming that Clark has "pretty privilege," "white privilege," "straight privilege," etc.
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Post by WCHC Sports on Jun 3, 2024 9:17:04 GMT -5
Jealousy must be at play.
I would say, if Clark was a big mouth in the media, trash talked publicly, derided the league as being cheap and inferior to college, complained about the refs-- all while having the immense attention and accolades that she garners-- I would empathize with WNBA veterans looking to send a message to the rookie and playing her tough/physically.
Cheap shots by jealous players who want the same media attention (deserved or not) likely have some element of hate in them. Hate that she's white, or that she's not seven feet tall, or that she is straight, or had N number of resources or advantages growing up... none of that is acceptable. And I would say if this looked a little different and the cheap shots were going in the opposite direction while media questions were refused, and white teammates clapped, all of the world and social media and traditional media would be up in arms--whether they were truly offended or not.
If I'm Clark-- maybe not with the war in Ukraine going on-- I'd otherwise take 5x the money and go play in Lithuania, and let these nasty chicks go back to taking the bus and having nobody watch their games.
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Post by rgs318 on Jun 3, 2024 9:17:43 GMT -5
Well, she does appear to have "talent privilege." I guess that puts pressure on other players to show why they "appear" to be less talented, other than simply not being as talented.
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Post by hcpride on Jun 3, 2024 9:19:36 GMT -5
Seems from her double negative that she would only be answering "Caitlin Clark questions." Is it possible that she does not understand correct grammar? Perhaps English is not her first language. 'I ain’t answering no Caitlin Clark questions.' I honestly don't know which is less appealing, the angry/defiant tone after the cowardly blindsiding of Clark or the atrocious grammar. She seemed to have plenty to say when screaming "B*tch" at the top of her lungs just before hitting Clark (see the end of the clip).
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Post by gks on Jun 3, 2024 11:00:11 GMT -5
Rookies, especially high profile ones, have been getting picked on for 100 years. They will continue to get picked on for the next 100 years.
Non story.
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Post by purplehaze on Jun 3, 2024 11:03:53 GMT -5
You haven't been listening very hard to the many professional (and college) athletes who don't know how to speak proper english - I'm talking about the double negatives which are used regularly. When it comes to the college athletes speaking this way my mind goes to 'how are they doing college work in the classroom' ? (I guess I know the answer to that)
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Post by longsuffering on Jun 3, 2024 11:05:13 GMT -5
If you were one of the many who predicted a rough intro to the WNBA for Caitlyn Clark based on some pre-season comments by some veterans and ex-players , you were right. This is the most recent play that has drawn some attention ( after the game it was ruled a flagrant foul): Not sure this is the look the WNBA leaders are hoping to see - one imagines they want to build the WNBA fanbase. Kind of surprising her veteran teammates have not responded in a way that would protect her from flagrant cheap shots like this. A Pee Wee Reese, Jackie Robinson moment would be welcomed.
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Post by longsuffering on Jun 3, 2024 11:07:18 GMT -5
Rookies, especially high profile ones, have been getting picked on for 100 years. They will continue to get picked on for the next 100 years. Non story. That shove out of nowhere except rage isn't getting "picked on" is it?
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Post by hcpride on Jun 3, 2024 11:44:13 GMT -5
Rookies, especially high profile ones, have been getting picked on for 100 years. They will continue to get picked on for the next 100 years. Non story. Beyond the fact I have no idea how frequently Diane Taurasi, Breanna Stewart, and Brittney Griner were "picked on" in the WNBA as rookies, I'm not sure "picked on" quite describes a player screaming B*tch as she violently blindsides Caitlin Clark. In the press, at least, some who routinely criticized Caitlin Clark as a college player have suggested she is being treated like any other WNBA rookie. Doesn't seem like it.
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Post by hcpride on Jun 3, 2024 11:47:05 GMT -5
If you were one of the many who predicted a rough intro to the WNBA for Caitlyn Clark based on some pre-season comments by some veterans and ex-players , you were right. This is the most recent play that has drawn some attention ( after the game it was ruled a flagrant foul): Not sure this is the look the WNBA leaders are hoping to see - one imagines they want to build the WNBA fanbase. Kind of surprising her veteran teammates have not responded in a way that would protect her from flagrant cheap shots like this. A Pee Wee Reese, Jackie Robinson moment would be welcomed. Instead of administering a 'non basketball play" of her own, Aliyah Boston merely helped Caitlin Clark to her feet. And nobody flattened the offender later.
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Post by Tom on Jun 3, 2024 11:54:48 GMT -5
A Pee Wee Reese, Jackie Robinson moment would be welcomed. Instead of administering a 'non basketball play" of her own, Aliyah Boston merely helped Caitlin Clark to her feet. And nobody flattened the offender later. We live in a kinder, gentler society today
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Post by hcpride on Jun 3, 2024 12:01:24 GMT -5
Instead of administering a 'non basketball play" of her own, Aliyah Boston merely helped Caitlin Clark to her feet. And nobody flattened the offender later. We live in a kinder, gentler society today Certainly in this case. Seems like just yesterday in the NCCA Tourney we saw Kamilla Cardoso sticking up for her teammate:
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Post by Tom on Jun 3, 2024 12:03:10 GMT -5
Rookies, especially high profile ones, have been getting picked on for 100 years. They will continue to get picked on for the next 100 years. Non story. Once during a pickup baseball game in Iowa, Moonlight Graham had two consecutive brushback pitches to his head. "Hey, Ump. How 'bout a warning" Response: "Watch out you don't get killed" Moonlight's situation aside, Carter's actions seem to go beyond the level of "picking on", even by the standard of the "good old days"
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Post by Tom on Jun 3, 2024 12:04:46 GMT -5
We live in a kinder, gentler society today Certainly in this case. Seems like just yesterday in the NCCA Tourney we saw Kamilla Cardoso sticking up for her teammate: Agree. Carter should have been leveled.
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Post by longsuffering on Jun 3, 2024 12:27:56 GMT -5
I give consideration to Clark's teammates by thinking of the NHL "third man in" rule. One benefit of a brawl not erupting is it keeps the interaction clean and simple. Or more accurately dirty and simple.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Jun 3, 2024 12:44:14 GMT -5
Rookies, especially high profile ones, have been getting picked on for 100 years. They will continue to get picked on for the next 100 years. Non story. This is definitely different.
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Post by alum on Jun 3, 2024 13:09:41 GMT -5
It was a cheap shot and worse than most basketball cheap shots. On the other hand, it was nothing in comparison to a 95 mph fastball being thrown behind someone's head.
Nobody was hurt, lots of people are talking about the WNBA today.
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Post by WorcesterGray on Jun 3, 2024 13:33:54 GMT -5
Speaking of cheap shots, here's Clark in action vs. mighty Purdue-.Fort Wayne last season.
Most of you have probably forgotten the flagrant forearm shiver the Princess laid on Cara McCormack during the NCAAs.
You might also google "Caitlin Clark Flops" for additional entertainment.
Great shooter, great passer, great player. Also, a punk.
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Post by rgs318 on Jun 3, 2024 13:38:26 GMT -5
Let's see, Clark was facing her opponent when she shoved her and got called (rightfully) for an intentional foul - DURING that game. ..not quite the same thing.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jun 3, 2024 14:31:38 GMT -5
How was the loathsome punk Greyson Allen treated when he got to the NBA?
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Post by ndgradbuthcfan on Jun 3, 2024 16:57:53 GMT -5
Clark should apply for a criminal complaint; that was a battery.
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