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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jun 7, 2024 14:10:47 GMT -5
Dear Supporter,
The kickoff to the 2024 football season is less than 100 days away! We'll kick off the season at Rhode Island on Saturday, August 31 at 7:00 p.m. Summer workouts for the team officially started on Monday and the energy level has been electric as the boys eagerly prepare for Week 1!
This is a motivated group that has a chip on their shoulder and that was evident this past winter/spring when they dominated the off-season program with record-breaking numbers in the weight room along with the most physical spring practices that we have seen here in a long time! The offseason program culminated with our annual Spring Game and team banquet – the turnout by our alumni, parents and fans was tremendous. It was a great day to honor the 2023 team and our highly decorated Senior Class, in addition to giving the public a glimpse of what's to come this fall!
This is also an important time of the year for our fundraising efforts as the fiscal year ends on June 30. I want to say thank you to all of you who have already given to the program. Your investment and commitment to Holy Cross Football is a major difference-maker for our program and we cannot thank you enough for your generosity! We are currently about $200,000 away from reaching our fundraising goal of $800,000 and we hope we can make one final push before June 30.
So far, 233 football alumni out of a possible 1,162 have made a gift to our program. We have a goal of 50% football alumni participation and need an additional 348 donors to reach that number. Reaching these goals will not only allow us to continue to give our team a first-class student-athlete experience but will also allow us to continue to maintain the "Standard of Excellence" that has been built by all of our proud alumni!
Some recent news regarding two of our prominent alumni: Bill McGovern '85 was recently named to the College Football Hall of Fame ballot and Kalif Raymond '16 will be inducted into the Holy Cross Athletics Hall of Fame for both football and track this fall. Well-deserved recognition and honors for two Holy Cross legends.
Please mark your calendar for the following important dates:
• June 10: Friends of Crusader Football Golf Outing at Pleasant Valley Country Club
We are expecting another huge turnout and it should be an awesome day celebrating the program.
• October 12: Fall Homecoming vs. Fordham
We're excited to honor the 1989 and 2009 championship teams during Homecoming Weekend!
Please view the rest of our 2024 schedule here.
I look forward to hopefully seeing you at one of the upcoming events or at another game this fall, and I'm excited to represent the Holy Cross Football Family Week 1 vs Rhody to kickoff the 2024 season!
Go Cross Go!
Dan Curran
Head Coach
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Post by sader1970 on Jun 7, 2024 15:41:11 GMT -5
Don't want to get a flag for piling on but was hoping that football with the great success the past 5 years would have had a much better ratio than basketball alum giving. Football's 20% needs a great "4th quarter" to reach the 50% goal.
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Post by hc1996 on Jun 7, 2024 16:28:09 GMT -5
Don't want to get a flag for piling on but was hoping that football with the great success the past 5 years would have had a much better ratio than basketball alum giving. Football's 20% needs a great "4th quarter" to reach the 50% goal. Is there a chance these guys are bitter given that they worked just as hard but never got a chance at NIL money? |
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Post by sader1970 on Jun 7, 2024 16:55:30 GMT -5
Nice theory but don’t think so because the lack of student-athlete giving is not a recent thing like the NIL is. This has been an ongoing issue . . . . . forever.
JMO🤷♂️
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Post by longsuffering on Jun 7, 2024 18:01:40 GMT -5
Nice theory but don’t think so because the lack of student-athlete giving is not a recent thing like the NIL is. This has been an ongoing issue . . . . . forever. JMO🤷♂️ Is it an issue or just personal preference? If stats are similar at Colgate, Lehigh, Bucknell, Lafayette then it's just reality. If they are all around 50% or the same as alumni in general at each school that would be interesting. |
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jun 7, 2024 18:55:30 GMT -5
/////and as others have pointed out, these football alums may be giving to the Annual Fund for the general purposes of the College.
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Post by hc1996 on Jun 8, 2024 4:38:11 GMT -5
Why didn’t Curran explicitly state how to give to the program? What is the priority?? NIL or the CAF?
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Post by football44 on Jun 8, 2024 6:38:10 GMT -5
Why didn’t Curran explicitly state how to give to the program? What is the priority?? NIL or the CAF? My guess, Coach Curran did not sit down and pen this letter. Now let me say that the 1843 LLC is a collective that is set up for ALL Holy Cross alumni and fans of both football and mens basketball to give money directly to both programs. 1843 LLC is an independent company with the goal of keeping both of these coaches and teams financially competitive in the world of NIL. For people on this board that keep bringing up title 9 concerns, let it go. In the new world of NIL there are no Title 9 concerns. Just look at Caitlin Clark and all the many other female athletes cashing in on NIL monies. Folks need to stop thinking in the 70’s and 80’s and realize the world we now live in in collegiate athletics. Even at the FCS level. |
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Post by hc1996 on Jun 8, 2024 9:16:47 GMT -5
If we were to ask Curran how best to donate, would the answer be 1843LLc? If not, why are they focusing on the giving rate through the CAF?
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Post by midwestsader05 on Jun 8, 2024 10:13:59 GMT -5
If we were to ask Curran how best to donate, would the answer be 1843LLc? If not, why are they focusing on the giving rate through the CAF? This is now about personal preference. For those that want to guarantee their dollars go directly to benefit the players without the overhead of a collegiate athletic budget, 1843 allows for one to do that. If one is still having trouble getting there in the new world of NIL, while many of us might disagree, I think most understand. Just make sure you designate “Gridiron Club” for Football when giving to the CAF. I personally have been giving annually to both. |
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Post by hc1996 on Jun 8, 2024 11:39:38 GMT -5
If we were to ask Curran how best to donate, would the answer be 1843LLc? If not, why are they focusing on the giving rate through the CAF? This is now about personal preference. For those that want to guarantee their dollars go directly to benefit the players without the overhead of a collegiate athletic budget, 1843 allows for one to do that. If one is still having trouble getting there in the new world of NIL, while many of us might disagree, I think most understand. Just make sure you designate “Gridiron Club” for Football when giving to the CAF. I personally have been giving annually to both. I appreciate the clarification. Thank you! |
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Post by efg72 on Jun 8, 2024 11:54:06 GMT -5
Allegedly coaches are given a number for the CAF that they must deliver for their budget.
The CAF was intended to provide support for teams when funds werent available in the base budget, and not to replace levels of support from Holy Cross.
If earmarked for a specific team those dollars were made available to the coach to pay for non-budgeted expenses. The same was true for the other sports.
Today, if the donations are earmarked to a specific team they go to that team, but from a distance they now appear to be part of the base budget for those teams and not to pay for those great to have items/ needs.
Also, I believe coaches should be part of promoting and raising dollars for the CAF, but not required to deliver a specific dollar amount.
With that in mind I wonder how the dollars raised by the golf tournament this Monday, or for future events, will be used.
With the movement of the golf tournament to reunion weekend where do the dollars go- football? general athletic budget? HC General Fund? If they go to football are they used to replace previous contributions coming from the Holy Cross annual budget?
If they go to the general fund or the broader athletic department budgets, football supporters should know and be able to make a decision about participation levels.
If and only if -what I think I am observing is true, we need to get rid of this Finance mindset and do things that make sense for Holy Cross and our athletic programs.
These budget controls frequently take place in organizations/companies when you get a new CFO who doesn’t value certain programmatic investments or when leadership changes priorities. I am not saying that is the case at Holy Cross, but I do wonder if it is an issue?
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jun 8, 2024 12:09:48 GMT -5
You’ve heard it before: all revenue is general revenue.
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Post by princetoncrusader on Jun 8, 2024 14:14:12 GMT -5
FWIW, I was in touch with one of the HC Advancement people last week regarding an annual fund donation from our Vanguard Charitable DAF. I was told that I needed to give the Vanguard Charitable people specific instructions if I wanted to carveout a piece for the CAF. Her line was, "...for our accounting purposes we have to allocate to whatever is written in the letter from the third party." Happy to say that the Vanguard Charitable people were quite helpful.
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Post by football44 on Jun 8, 2024 15:14:46 GMT -5
FWIW, I was in touch with one of the HC Advancement people last week regarding an annual fund donation from our Vanguard Charitable DAF. I was told that I needed to give the Vanguard Charitable people specific instructions if I wanted to carveout a piece for the CAF. Her line was, "...for our accounting purposes we have to allocate to whatever is written in the letter from the third party." Happy to say that the Vanguard Charitable people were quite helpful. Thanks for your input princetoncrusader! Needless to say, there are NO carveouts or letters from a third party necessary when you send your contribution to 1843 LLC. Your contribution goes straight to your choice, football or men’s basketball. Both Coach Curran and Coach Paulsen would greatly appreciate your support. |
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Post by football44 on Jun 8, 2024 15:34:45 GMT -5
You’ve heard it before: all revenue is general revenue. And there in lies the problem. |
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jun 8, 2024 16:09:49 GMT -5
1.) Much of Curran's letter is boilerplate. These letters are being sent out by multiple coaches at this time, because the College's fiscal year ends on June 30. Individual program budgets are already set for the fiscal year 2025 that begins on July 1, i.e., number of scollies for a sport, coaches compensation, allowance for operating (game day) expenses, recruiting budget. What coaches raise in these solicitations is for expenses that are not covered in the College's budget for that sport for fiscal 25.
2.) Here is a paragraph from a letter from the head coach of women's rowing:
3.) It would be against school policy, if not NCAA policy, for a coach to directly solicit money for an NIL.
4.) Donations to the CAF are categorized as generated revenue. Donations to an NIL collective are not categorized as revenue to the College.
5.) The low percentage of football alums not giving to the CAF has been discussed on Crossports in the past. Some explained it as a consequence of bitter feelings arising from the College discontinuing merit scollies for football.
6.) At the FCS level, booster revenue (i.e., the CAF) exceeds the total revenues from ticket sales, media rights, and NCAA distributions. Booster money spent on NILs represent revenue (income) for the individual student. This is not counted as revenue to the school. Similarly, if alums directly paid part of a head coach's salary, that is revenue to the coach, not the school.
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Post by midwestsader05 on Jun 8, 2024 18:52:01 GMT -5
1.) Much of Curran's letter is boilerplate. These letters are being sent out by multiple coaches at this time, because the College's fiscal year ends on June 30. Individual program budgets are already set for the fiscal year 2025 that begins on July 1, i.e., number of scollies for a sport, coaches compensation, allowance for operating (game day) expenses, recruiting budget. What coaches raise in these solicitations is for expenses that are not covered in the College's budget for that sport for fiscal 25. 2.) Here is a paragraph from a letter from the head coach of women's rowing: 3.) It would be against school policy, if not NCAA policy, for a coach to directly solicit money for an NIL. 4.) Donations to the CAF are categorized as generated revenue. Donations to an NIL collective are not categorized as revenue to the College. 5.) The low percentage of football alums not giving to the CAF has been discussed on Crossports in the past. Some explained it as a consequence of bitter feelings arising from the College discontinuing merit scollies for football. 6.) At the FCS level, booster revenue (i.e., the CAF) exceeds the total revenues from ticket sales, media rights, and NCAA distributions. Booster money spent on NILs represent revenue (income) for the individual student. This is not counted as revenue to the school. Similarly, if alums directly paid part of a head coach's salary, that is revenue to the coach, not the school. #3 is 100% not accurate. I can post a half dozen videos of Cheney soliciting/pitching JMU’s NIL collective. Plus dozens of other coaches I’ve seen. |
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Post by sader1970 on Jun 8, 2024 18:58:28 GMT -5
mid, Phreek said: "It would be against school policy, if not NCAA policy, for a coach to directly solicit money for an NIL."
Your response was Chesney videos pitching for JMU NIL. Do you have any of him doing the same for Holy Cross. The school we are interested in is HC not JMU.
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Post by midwestsader05 on Jun 8, 2024 19:04:41 GMT -5
Was referring to NCAA policy. And FCS coaches are starting to solicit. You think Fordham isn’t going all in? Colgate? Rude awakening on the horizon.
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Post by football44 on Jun 8, 2024 19:08:43 GMT -5
Tell him Midwest. People just don’t want to admit what’s happening around them until it’s too late.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jun 8, 2024 19:12:54 GMT -5
The quote below is excerpted from Holy Cross' policy on NILs.
Bolding in the original.
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Post by gks on Jun 8, 2024 19:27:49 GMT -5
NIL is the rule in NCAA athletics.
You can either be a part of the allowed rules and be successful or you can take a DeLorean back to 1968, pretend it's not there and be non-competitive.
I applaud those working to keep HC athletics current and in-step.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jun 8, 2024 20:12:23 GMT -5
Holy Cross school policy does not prohibit a coach from extolling the merits of alums / friends / businesses establishing a collective, with said collective subsequently signing a NIL contract with an athlete. ------------------------------------- Eighteen months ago, Holy Cross signed a contract with MOGL to manage NILs for student athletes and the College. goholycross.com/news/2022/12/19/athletics-holy-cross-selects-mogl-as-its-nil-solution.aspxBolding and Capitalization in the original. |
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Post by sader1970 on Jun 8, 2024 20:12:43 GMT -5
Please point me in the direction of the nearest DeLorean dealer! I’ll put a Crusader with a lance logo sticker on the gull wing door!
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