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Post by unhfan on Jul 12, 2020 15:21:14 GMT -5
One would think if HE wanted Holy Cross as the 12 th team that it would be done by now. Maybe though because of the pandemic and new commish it hasn’t been announced. www.google.com/amp/s/www.boston.com/sports/college-sports/2020/06/08/hockey-east-commissioner-steve-metcalf/ampI’m sure someone posted that article on here but I thought I would post it just in case. The highlights are HE is in no rush to add a 2 team and they want a school that would bring some value and geography is important. It appears they learned from their mistake of adding ND who began complaining the minute after they joined due to the travel.
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Post by unhfan on Jul 11, 2020 17:37:35 GMT -5
Why not? It makes the argument on both threads. Maybe someone only reads this thread I thought they would like the expert’s(CDC) opinion on the opening of schools as it seems that once again the Ivies are leading the way. They took a lot of ridicule when they cancelled their basketball tournament but proved to be ahead of the curve and correct on that issue. No one has to read the article if they don’t want to but it ties directly into the conversation. After everything that has happened with the management of this virus, you would still rely on the CDC's opinion? haha. Well, with that logic say goodbye to sports for years to come. Of course why would I listen to the medical experts? How foolish of me. I should just go out without a mask and figure it’s going to just magically disappear. 😳😷🤦🏼♂️
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Post by unhfan on Jul 11, 2020 15:58:57 GMT -5
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Post by unhfan on Jul 11, 2020 14:44:58 GMT -5
Is it necessary to post the same link three times in two different threads? Why not? It makes the argument on both threads. Maybe someone only reads this thread I thought they would like the expert’s(CDC) opinion on the opening of schools as it seems that once again the Ivies are leading the way. They took a lot of ridicule when they cancelled their basketball tournament but proved to be ahead of the curve and correct on that issue. No one has to read the article if they don’t want to but it ties directly into the conversation.
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Post by unhfan on Jul 11, 2020 13:25:47 GMT -5
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Post by unhfan on Jul 11, 2020 13:22:15 GMT -5
Yesterday's WAPO front page, "The College Football Season is in Trouble." Naturally, none of us know with metaphysical certainty but as I wrote, there are strong indicators that there will not be any HC football in 2020. From other reports, it appears the virus spreads more easily among athletes in team sports. It appears at throe some who are asymptomaticis time that although the virus is asymptomatic for most young people, nontheless, there may be long term "hidden"deleterious effects to lung function and other organs . With all of the unknowns about this virus it would appear to be sheer lunacy not to err on the side of caution by closing down the season for 2020. I doubt that the school administrators would want to risk the health of students merely for them to play football or any sport. The plan to resume important academic classes recognizes these health risks. Alums may have to get their HC football fix sometime next year. Time will most definitely tell. I expect and hope that all would support HC in its decision-making during this extremely difficult time. If the ultimate decision is to cancel the season, so be it. However, I am hopeful that there will be a clear explanation which identifies what we need to see in order to resume organized athletics. When this crisis first started, we were all told that we needed to “flatten the curve.” In Mass., at least, we have accomplished that goal and then some, which I believe is fueling much of the frustration that people have re: resumption of sports and the like. If the goal has changed and we now need to have a vaccine before sports may resume, we may very well find ourselves in the same position at this time next year, as a vaccine is by no means a slam dunk. If a vaccine is necessary, the goals and requirements for resumption of sports have changed dramatically, and in my opinion, unrealistically. m Looks like the CDC is quite concerned with the possible opening of schools. We need to realize this is a pandemic not just a common cold. Sacrifice is necessary for the good of the country. It’s only been 18 weeks the last pandemic was two years. I wonder if people could have sacrificed during WWII? It’s more important that we get this pandemic under control and hopefully a cure before we worry about trivial things like playing sports! www.cnn.com/2020/07/11/politics/cdc-documents-warn-high-risk-schools-reopening/index.htmlwww.cnn.com/2020/07/11/politics/cdc-documents-warn-high-risk-schools-reopening/index.html
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Post by unhfan on Jul 11, 2020 9:58:07 GMT -5
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Post by unhfan on Jul 11, 2020 9:13:13 GMT -5
Does conference only include a playoff? Great question I haven't seen that mentioned in any of the press releases or tweets. I know the CAA had a meeting Thursday with all the AD's and Presidents to discuss football. According to UNH's AD everything is on the table heading into that meeting this week including a pod system where UNH would play Maine, URI, and Albany twice for their football schedule this year.
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Post by unhfan on Jul 11, 2020 8:57:12 GMT -5
If your educated I don’t know how you could support him but that is a different story. We’re not allowed to discuss politics here but the Dean seems to be asleep at the switch so I would quickly submit that the alternatives presented in the past two elections have caused and will cause many educated people to vote for Trump who certainly don’t feel great about it. Is it safe for me to assume that you don't have a wife or daughter? The way the president speaks about women is absolutely disgusting and the his handling of this pandemic is a joke! He keeps on making up things about the virus is no big deal, racist remarks about where it came from, it will disappear, threatening to withhold school funding and demanding schools be opened which is not his decision, not listening to his medical experts(alum Dr. Fauci). I have no words sir if you see all of that and just still support him and you've graduated from college I don;t know what to say.
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Post by unhfan on Jul 11, 2020 8:52:09 GMT -5
If your educated I don’t know how you could support him but that is a different story. Fair enough, I can respect your statement...but I would add that I am "educated" enough to know the correct expression is "you're." I have to believe that is from your "uneducated" spell-check. Thank you for the grammar correction it was never my strong suit in school, college, or graduate school but I do appreciate your help in the matter. Now only if you would be so helpful and listen to the medical professionals
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Post by unhfan on Jul 11, 2020 8:29:40 GMT -5
Based on posts by unh that might depend on whether or not you support the President. If your educated I don’t know how you could support him but that is a different story. But I'm not trying to make a political argument I'm looking at listening to the medical experts vs. those that don't think what they say is true.
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Post by unhfan on Jul 11, 2020 8:10:25 GMT -5
Do you not weigh that in the decision or are you so in the this is all a joke camp that nothing matters to you but playing PL football Why do you keep saying this? I have not seen one person on this forum claim this virus is a joke. Because I would like a question from the educated members of this board that seem to act like it’s no big deal and life should go back to normal. It seems some people believe this is all hype by possibly the media and the idea of not bringing students back to schools thus fall and playing is ludicrous.
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Post by unhfan on Jul 11, 2020 8:06:38 GMT -5
MAC and ACC to go to conference schedules only.
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Post by unhfan on Jul 11, 2020 7:48:51 GMT -5
The flu is far more likely to harm a young person than the big C. That’s just a fact. How about the possible long term effects for anyone that gets this awful disease no matter the age? Do you not weigh that in the decision or are you so in the this is all a joke camp that nothing matters to you but playing PL football🤦🏼♂️🤔 Here is an article that talks about the effects of the virus... www.cnn.com/2020/07/10/health/coronavirus-entire-body-effects-columbia/index.htmlThis is not opinions but facts from the medical professionals on the front lines. But nah this disease is no biggie the flu is worse. 99% of people won’t be impacted!
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Post by unhfan on Jul 11, 2020 5:45:58 GMT -5
Do you have a child in school? Grammar, High! School or College? What is your age? Under 30?, Over 30?, Over 40? Over 50? Jist trying to understand why some are willing to risk their lives and their families in the middle of the pandemic. Or are you really playing devils advocate to stir the discussion. HCPride seems to be of the mindset that this pandemic is not a big deal. It’s all media hype, 99% of people who get it will be fine and it will just magically disappear one day. Of course the scientists who are talking about the possible long term effects to anyone that gets this awful disease no matter what age must be wrong. As one famous European leader said “You can not fight this pandemic with lies and misinformation!”
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Post by unhfan on Jul 10, 2020 19:37:29 GMT -5
Fair enough. "The only folks that support the man in power are uneducated males." Is that better? I am afraid that might only convince the uneducated. 60+million Americans voted for and elected our POTUS. All uneducated white males? Perhaps many Americans do not respond to the polls UNH refers to as they find their efforts are better directed elsewhere.....and do not appreciate the reflexive label “ignorant”. Keep your eye on those polls and enjoy your Kiol Aid. The perfect storm last election and my opinion is a lot of people stayed home and those that did come out looked at him as the least of two evils. Now this November people will need to decide based on his record do we rehire or fire him. We’ll find out on November 3rd. Will he abide by the results or is this going to be a bunch of unsubstantiated rhetoric from the president and what I’m sure would be some type of lawsuit. I do realize polls can be read and set up to get whatever information the pollsters want but when even his own news organization has him losing that sets up a huge issue but maybe like he says the virus will just disappear one day and 99% of people who get it just have really mild symptoms. Unfortunately the medical professionals don’t seem to agree but maybe including Dr. Fauci their all wrong🤦🏼♂️
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Post by unhfan on Jul 10, 2020 18:52:36 GMT -5
I assume you are describing Speaker Pelosi. Her talking points are only directed at getting rid of the man we elected as President. That agenda trumps (no pun intended) any actual data for her. The hysteria over the virus (a very different topic that the actual virus) will lessen after the election. Any kind of universal statement about the President's "only" supporters being uneducated white males is not supported by much and it does make those who say such things sound uneducated themselves. Hmm can you show me any poll besides uneducated voters that the President leads in? When did I say uneducated white males? Please at least be accurate when quoting someone.
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Post by unhfan on Jul 10, 2020 18:25:42 GMT -5
The only folks that support the man in power are uneducated males. Now I know that is not you so I’m confused. Pretty uncalled for. Also, I would broaden your circle of friends, NH. Uncalled for? It’s a fact in every poll I’ve seen. When your friend says the day after the presidential election the hysteria about the virus will be gone gee what do you think he means by that and what leader does he sound like? 🤔
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Post by unhfan on Jul 10, 2020 18:23:22 GMT -5
Pretty uncalled for. Also, I would broaden your circle of friends, NH. Didn’t take NH long to politicize the issue, essentially making my original point for me. 😂 Saying the day after the presidential election the virus hysteria will go away is not making it political 🤔🤦🏼♂️😳
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Post by unhfan on Jul 10, 2020 18:07:34 GMT -5
So this is all fake news? No need to wear a mask? Social distancing is unnecessary? “Massachusetts has seen a steady decline in the rate which was 3.5% on June 10. Overall, it has gone down 94% since April 15 when it was 22.6%.” Fact, not opinion. I also never said we should stop wearing masks or maintain social distancing. We don’t play any teams this season from the states that are spiking, so that data should be of marginal relevance to our decision making process. If you remain afraid to go outside, stay home. Some of us are not afraid. 😂. Well thank you for educating me with the facts for the Commonwealth. So no need to take in account a possible 2 Nd wave or that when kids return to school we might not see a spike like 33 states have? I’m very glad that your not afraid of the pandemic. I don’t think people that wear masks, social distance and think that maybe playing fall sports in the middle of a pandemic are afraid but I guess it depends where you get your news from as it appears you think this is some hoax that will be over on Election Day. If that is true that is an impressive hoax 3 million people getting sick and 132,000 + dead all fake news? I’m afraid you need to stop watching certain “news stations” my friend. The only folks that support the man in power are uneducated males. Now I know that is not you so I’m confused.
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Post by unhfan on Jul 10, 2020 17:40:57 GMT -5
You can’t be that ignorant to think that. So this is all fake news? No need to wear a mask? Social distancing is unnecessary?
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Post by unhfan on Jul 10, 2020 17:36:50 GMT -5
If fall sports are sheer lunacy, 67, then so is sending 3,000 students back to campus. If we are going to shut down sports, then might as well take full precaution and shut down the campus altogether. Yessir! Don’t worry - beginning on November 4th the hysteria that has seemingly enveloped all facets of society will magically begin to subside. You can’t be that ignorant to think that. Let me guess the 3 million Americans infected by this virus is fake news?
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Post by unhfan on Jul 10, 2020 12:06:30 GMT -5
I never suggested such a thing. I was just wondering how much of a conspiracy theory you believe this made up pandemic is that is all and wondered if you believe the esteemed Dr. Fauci or is just promoting fake news? If Dr. Fauci has suggested that college athletes are not going not have bad outcomes should they catch Covid-19, the data and the science certainly support him. As far as trolling for conspiracy theories you may have to go elsewhere. (FWIW, schools such as Holy Cross and others who are returning essentially all students to campus and schools supporting the return of fall sports are not necessarily embracing conspiracy theories or killing elderly people...or both.) 😂. I’m not trolling my friend just asking you some simple straightforward questions which it appears you don’t want to answer 🤔.
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Post by unhfan on Jul 10, 2020 7:34:04 GMT -5
Do you support wearing masks and social distancing? I’m just wondering how much of this do you think is all overblown fake news and we should just go back to the way things were pre pandemic. Do you believe what the esteemed Dr. Fauci says or is he just making things up? Are you suggesting Dr. Fauci has said that college age student athletes (asymptomatic and otherwise) who test positive are going to have bad outcomes? (Other than statistical outliers) Do you understand that the reason why athletic teams test and re-test is because they anticipate there may be a positive and want to detect it early and deal with it properly? I never suggested such a thing. I was just wondering how much of a conspiracy theory you believe this made up pandemic is that is all and wondered if you believe the esteemed Dr. Fauci or is just promoting fake news?
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Post by unhfan on Jul 9, 2020 8:59:07 GMT -5
No outbreaks of Covid-19? I must have misread ESPN. Covid-19 amongst early reporting college-aged footballers (asymptomatic and otherwise) does not indicate things are going badly. They are anticipated - and should not trigger faux horror. (I know the narrative says otherwise) I haven't hear of any serious injuries (or injuries at all although they certainly may have occurred). No idea how you are misreading ESPN. Do you support wearing masks and social distancing? I’m just wondering how much of this do you think is all overblown fake news and we should just go back to the way things were pre pandemic. Do you believe what the esteemed Dr. Fauci says or is he just making things up?
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