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Post by inhocsigno on Sept 22, 2018 14:13:54 GMT -5
Are you kidding me? Throw vertical passes-this means downfield- offensive coordinator!!! I think he is trying to run out the clock. |
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Post by inhocsigno on Sept 22, 2018 13:54:59 GMT -5
this Is more embarrassing than losing to BC by 100 points
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Post by inhocsigno on Sept 22, 2018 13:18:54 GMT -5
Worst 1/2 of offense I have ever seen. Put in the 3rd QB and fire the OC at half time
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Post by inhocsigno on Sept 22, 2018 12:45:15 GMT -5
Our QB play is a major problem. They are both pretty terrible.
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Post by inhocsigno on Sept 19, 2018 16:05:29 GMT -5
Quitter
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Post by inhocsigno on Sept 19, 2018 14:52:02 GMT -5
I am very confident that while most of the D-IA games HC has scheduled over the coming years are indeed focused on money. BC was scheduled first by Dick Regan for the history/tradition, first; with the ancillary benefit of money. UConn and any future UMass game, now that they are both D-IA, are probably money first; a reasonable (30%-50%) chance of winning, second; proximity, third. Since Syracuse historically beat us like a drum even in our best years, that's probably close to 100% for money. Playing Army would be equal parts tradition; a great way to get alums together down in metro NY; a reasonable chance of winning; and, of course, $$$$. As I've posted previously former head coach Gilmore told me if we had to play D-IA teams, his first choice was UConn due to proximity and being able to beat them. Second choice was Army. Don't recall talking about UMass but they may have still been D-IAA when I spoke with him. BC and Syracuse were, as I recall, considered a bridge too far. I don't think Navy was even on the horizon but I can see the powers that be want us to play them, not just for money but because they are a fellow Patriot League school for all but football. Gentlemen, we can discuss this 'til the cows come home but these games are a fact of life. You can like the idea and the challenge and the money or you can hate it because of fears for life and limb. But, love it or hate it, it's here and will remain as long as we play D-IAA football with scholarships. Holy Cross, like most of our peer schools (exception being Ivies), need the money to offset the high cost of running these programs. We will still lose money each year . . . . . just less of it when we have a stream of D-IA money coming in each year. You should not say anyone is afraid. You may be tagged as unreasonable. I wouldn't know. |
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Post by inhocsigno on Sept 18, 2018 11:39:24 GMT -5
Not sure - he was coming in pretty hot on that play. I think the Yale guys probably got out of the way on that basis (not wanting to get rammed). Regardless, improvements are long overdue on the sidelines. Used to be solid patch of concrete which was like a skating rink. At least that’s gone. But the narrow margin and benches make it a perpetual hazard. I don’t think HC should wait for a major injury to happen, especially with the speed of the game always increasing. Huh ? Don't recall any concrete patch anywhere on the field at Fitton.
Regardless, this has happened before over decades at Fitton. The refurbishment of Fitton in 1986 eliminated the chain link fence that encompassed the entire field. Twas replaced by the aluminum/metal façade that exits today ( now with HC branding ). Some baseball outfield wall type padding should cover that façade all around.
Item #236 for Nate Pine on his 'to do' list for Fitton Field.
is correct. There was a concrete patch by the bench, and your cleats were like ice skates when you hit that (usually it was covered up with astroturf like rug) |
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Post by inhocsigno on Sept 18, 2018 10:12:12 GMT -5
Can someone breakdown what happened with Miles hitting the wall or bench? Was this following a run, as he was going out of bounds? The defender pushed him out of bounds and Alexander was moving too fast to stop before the bench. He looked to "bail" out by getting down/sliding, but the side of his head smacked the bench. The hit/push was clean (in bounds), but the Yale bench all jumped out of the way instead of putting a hand out to stop him/slow him down. I would not put it past those elitist prigs that they failed to intervene on purpose. Any other team would have stuck out a hand or tried to slow him down by catching him, if for no other reason than to talk smack or get in a quick gut punch. It is more dirty to let him eat bench IMO. |
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Post by inhocsigno on Sept 18, 2018 7:30:00 GMT -5
Which one of you guys was the 70 year old taunting the Yale players? I may have a new hero.
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Post by inhocsigno on Sept 17, 2018 18:18:02 GMT -5
Definitely an attitude/emotional/heart thing. Oliver is one of the best in the business and has been making players in all sports bigger, stronger, faster, etc. for years. Having a dedicated football strength coach is a benefit, not only because Oliver was handling all the varsity sports, with quality help in many cases, but because a dedicated strength coach can focus exclusively on FB players outside of the weight room as well as in, i.e. a strength coach that is gung-ho at practices, etc. Having a FB dedicated great strength coach in addition to a great Oliver can only be viewed as a positive.
When we were winning under Allen and Gilmore, there was not prevalent talk about players giving up. The late game break downs have been something that were more prevalent during the last few years than in more distant past (10+ years ago). I think that as winning begets winning, acceptance of losing results in losing. I assume, with no direct knowledge and trying not talk poorly about the past coaching staff, that Chesney has injected a new attitude with regard to the expectation to win, rather than the acceptance that some games are lost.
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Post by inhocsigno on Sept 17, 2018 11:49:30 GMT -5
Colgate
Fordham (Toss up between 2 bad teams)
Columbia
Lehigh
Villanova
Holy Cross
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Post by inhocsigno on Sept 16, 2018 12:00:18 GMT -5
Let’s hope Cozier and /or Alexander are back for Dartmouth The way Alexander was jumping around and hyping up the team after OT coin toss, I imagine he was being held out for concussion precautions. His helmet smacked the Yale bench pretty bad. He looked to be fine and should be cleared. |
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Post by inhocsigno on Sept 16, 2018 11:52:11 GMT -5
Might be more HC alums a short trip from Boston than a short trip from Worcester (perhaps one of many reason for the nice turnout of purple at BC). I think that is true for many in the Boston area that would not travel to Worcester on any given other Saturday. There were many who came from across the nation because of the game as well. Our group of 30 came from CA, DC, KY, OH, NC, NJ, LA, NY, ME, CT and NH for the first time since the Yankee Stadium massacre, specifically because the game was against BC. Our next planned game get together is Syracuse game. Obviously due to geography, costs, family obligations (kids in sports, etc.), we are focusing on these marquee games. |
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Post by inhocsigno on Sept 15, 2018 15:33:26 GMT -5
This will be telling. In the past, I would have said there is no chance that our kickers could be counted on. I feel different with this kid for some reason.
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Post by inhocsigno on Sept 15, 2018 15:30:22 GMT -5
YESSSSSSSS
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Post by inhocsigno on Sept 15, 2018 15:28:37 GMT -5
Holding by their tackle again.
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Post by inhocsigno on Sept 15, 2018 15:07:15 GMT -5
Yale is getting away with a lot of holding by their OL.
Lang looks like a legit player.
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Post by inhocsigno on Sept 14, 2018 20:39:41 GMT -5
HC offeree DB BRANDON SPENCER (Walton HS, Marietta, GA) playing on ESPN2 right now. Walton is playing North Gwinnett HS. Lots of D-1 recruits playing in the game. He just made a heck of play. |
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Post by inhocsigno on Sept 14, 2018 20:38:09 GMT -5
inhocsigno. Thank you for your thoughtful response. Your comments "fearful", "pathetic", "ignorant", are not name calling and clearly by inference insulting? Those words were certainly name calling insults. Your comments to the former service man were abhorrent to me. He defended our country! He deserves our respect. And, your comment to moose 1970 that as a former f-ball player he was fearful, too bad? He's a great guy.Those aren't personal insults? And, all because we have different points of view? I have to believe that as a fellow HC alum, you are a very bright, good man. Don't you see how you are dragging yourself down by personally attacking alums who are tied to you in a bond of brotherhood as grads. of one of the greatest schools in America? You are not going to tarnish their service to country and school but you do make yourself appear small and spiteful when you attack them and me. I can feel your excitement and joy in HC playing BC and other BCS teams. None of us mean to rain on your parade but we just have different points of view. I hope that these games work to the benefit of the school in increasing team and school morale; in improving our recruiting and name brand; in filling the school's coffers and in providing a victory over a BCS team. Did you think that I felt differently? I just disagree with you and others that these things will happen. Finally, my intent was not to hurt you but in my view to try to enlighten you as to the import and outcomes of your insults. Please continue to join the discussions, robustly and respectfully disagree and even criticize other viewpoints but please don't personally criticize other alums. Can we agree to disagree? Maybe be patient with those of us who appear to you to be so old and ignorant of the modern sports world. Enough! I'm tired too. I've given you my time, my heart and my respect. Go love and take care of your beautiful family. Now, it is time for grandpa' to put on his "jammies", enjoy a warm glass of milk with a cookie and go to sleep. And, I know that we are joined at the hip in our.... Love for HC I was going to let this go and just go home for the weekend, but I find it abhorrent that you are accusing me of attacking hcpride's military service. I was not. You need to go back and re-read the posts. Your whole "he defended our country" and "tarnish his service" line of comment is ridiculous and insulting. It is also disingenuous and either intellectually dishonest or just plain stupid. Of course he deserves our respect for serving our country. - as does every man and woman who does so. He does not get extra points on his opinions about football because of that service, or get to use his service record to try to score cheap points because I used a common figure of speech without knowing he served. If hcpride feels I disparaged his service, I am sorry he misread my posts and the intention behind those posts. I will not, however, take back my point - i.e. if you are afraid of playing football because you may get injured, I don't want you on my team (in the original context, a figurative foxhole). As to moose1970 I am always happy to hear the opinions of former players from times before I was there. Me questioning his opinion, i.e. that we should not play BCS teams because he is afraid of embarrassing losses making the school look bad, is not intended to, nor does it "tarnish [his] service...to the school". Again, you are imposing a ridiculous reading to my posts. By your reading, every time I said something you disagreed with on here, you would have to accept it because I played at HC. That is not, and certainly should not, be the case. Maybe it is me and I am just wrong. I am a public school product and my grasp of proper grammar and reading comprehension may be tenuous, but when someone says we should not play a certain team because of the possibility of injuries and embarrassing losses, which hurt the team and school, I read that to mean that there is "fear" that the perceived downside (injuries and losses) outweighs any perceived benefit (guarantee money, national televised games, profile, recruiting, etc.). The opinion that the downside outweighs the upside is an opinion that you are free to have. However, I believe that I am justified in my opinion that fear of injuries or losing bad in these games is not a justified opinion. In my poor understanding of the English language, if you are afraid of something, e.g. the fear of injuries to the players, you are being fearful. My comments do not imply you are at home shaking in your boots about these games. I essentially see on this thread three people that are heavily against BCS games - all of which are active on this thread with their opinions re same. Your opinion about BCS games is not correct. I have no problem with incorrect opinions, this is America and you are free to have it, as I am free to disagree. Hell, we live in a country that elected a fraudulent snake oil salesmen with a 90 IQ to the highest political position in the land based on an incorrect opinion that he was the best candidate in the GOP field. However, an opinion can be incorrect, even if sincerely held. Yes, we can agree to disagree on the BCS thing - even if you are wrong. We cannot agree on your characterization of me or my comments as attacking the military service of an alum or questioning Moose's sacrifices on the field. I have no doubt about your sincerity of love of HC and your respect of your fellow Crusaders. However, such sentiment appears less sincere when they follow the condescending tone and ugly misrepresentation of my posts. Good Night and Be Well. |
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Post by inhocsigno on Sept 14, 2018 18:38:59 GMT -5
in hoc sign. Man you are something else! Are you capable of engaging with others without resorting to name calling? You do yourself a disservice. I can't believe that you can't do better. Ignorant? Come-on man.You are too funny and your comments are totally inappropriate and irrelevant to the discussion about playing a P5BCS team. Can't you see that most ignore you? I respond to your jibes out of a sincere feeling of alumni fellowship and a desire to exchange ideas not insults. Please try harder to clean up your act. Stick to exchanging your knowledge and your points of view about a topic. Avoid the name calling as it is really not appropriate for us HC alums on this board. I like to think that as an HC alum you can do better in discourse and be more respectful to your fellow alums. And also behave more intelligently. Stay well. Remember we all... Love HC This is getting tired. Did I call you any names other than being fearful for being afraid to play BCS teams? Did I say you were pathetic or that your argument was pathetic? Did I call you ignorant or say you were ignorant about college football? OK, fine line on the last one. Basically, show me where I called you a name that was personally attacking you or your character and I'll apologize. I will not apologize for saying that someone is being fearful if they are afraid of something. That is the just the English language. The BCS games are the best thing that have happened to HC football since the last PL Championship. If you don't believe that, fine. We are all entitled to our opinions; even if your opinion happens to be wrong on this one. The thing you said about most here ignoring me- that one hurts. I wake up everyday, kiss my kids goodbye, go to work, and the one hope I have in life is to be accepted by the fine folks on Crossports after x years on the boards I hope to recover. BEAT YALE. |
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Post by inhocsigno on Sept 14, 2018 17:36:39 GMT -5
i played football for HC in games against both BC and Syracuse. neither i or any teammate asked to be pulled from the game or not want to play. we played those games with pride. your comments are beneath contempt! I read that you played when you first starting posting. That is wonderful. I am a little surprised at your position on this matter. You are proving my point however - the players want these games and want to play in them (i.e. would not want to be pulled out). Your position that we should not play them out of fear of losing too bad ("embarrassing") - that is being fearful. If you find that statement contemptuous - too bad. You also don't understand how these games play for recruiting. That is obviously a generational thing. P.S. please also do everyone a favor and post in the quote, so the response is tied to the notification. |
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Post by inhocsigno on Sept 14, 2018 17:29:42 GMT -5
In ho signo. Fearful? Pathetic? Look pal I played football in hs and I don't take kindly to name calling by you. Do you understand me? Can you read? I will repeat in simple language so that you can understand . As I explained, young man, I never mentioned fear in my opposition to HC playing P5 BCS teams. Fear was your invention not mine.I'm glad that you readTR's famous "Man in the Arena." Obviously you do not have the ability to engage in intelligent discourse without resorting to name calling, the lowest form of argumentation. Now stop it and grow up. I remain your fellow alum. Love HC Luckily, I can read. I apologize - I did not know you played football in high school (probably in the Northeast) in the late 50's and early 60's. I understand your position now that I understand your experiences with non-diverse competition and towering 200 lb lineman. Please accept my humblest apologies at calling you fearful and your arguments pathetic. I should have simply said that you are ignorant to the realities of the post-modern world of college football. |
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Post by inhocsigno on Sept 14, 2018 16:41:13 GMT -5
I am willing to say there is no appreciable greater risk of receiving an injury in one P5 game than any other Division I (FBS or FCS) game. Have you ever played on Towson's old turf? From my observation: mm76, moose and Hcpride-less (collectively, the "Fearful") are essentially against these games because they are either embarrassing or will cause injury to our players. I cannot agree. If a player at HC tells a coach he does not want to play these games because of those two reasons, or any other reason, he should not be playing football, and he especially should not be playing at the FCS level. I guarantee there is not one kid on the team who feels as the Fearful do. Your 'fearful' name calling is about as accurate as your fumbling foxhole insult earlier in the thread: I am afraid I triggered you on this exchange: inhocsigno: Do you really believe that there is an increased injury risk playing BC or any other P5 team over any other game? HCPride: Do I think the risk of injury (to quarterbacks and others) is greater when the other team (including the defensive line and linebackers) is substantially bigger, faster and stronger than the opposition? The announcers for the game (one of whom was a former pro BTW) certainly thought so. (They did not suggest injuries did not occur where opponents are more evenly matched.) inhocsigno: hcpride - clearly a guy you don't want in your foxhole HCPride: Clearly the guy who has actually been in a foxhole. BTW we call them fighting positions now. Again - not triggered. See above. Your reference to your military experience (which I would have no reason to know) as some fait accompli as the invalidity of my figure of speech is nothing short of weak. Your only real position re this issue is that HC should not play P5 teams because they will lose bad or get hurt. Am I missing something? In my book, that is being fearful. Accordingly, I would not want you on my team playing a game of football. If you think that everyone that uses the old "foxhole" figure of speech is fumbling and insulting, I would, without respect, say you are being self-righteous and using your service to try to reinforce your incorrect position; so regardless of your "fighting position", you are being an asshat. As to injuries - these are young men, all of which are big, strong, fast, or some combination of the three, and they can handle the risk of playing against teams that have more players with such combinations. This is still college football, not HC playing a NFL team, or a team of superheroes. |
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Post by inhocsigno on Sept 14, 2018 15:59:07 GMT -5
inhocsigno, I suggest that you refrain from characterizing by name calling as it does not advance your point of view among other things. Please cool down, avoid the overheated rhetoric. Let me remind you that neither you nor I nor any of us decide HC's scheduling policy. We are engaged merely in discourse based on our love of alma mater. Actually, I only questioned if there was anyone who would admit that he/she did not know about the increased likelihood of injury. So far although no one has established that he/she knows other than giving an opinion , no one has admitted that they don't know. I don't know if there is an increased likelihood of injury, and based on your post neither do you. My concerns in opposition to HC playing a P5 BCS team have been amply laid out in earlier posts and if you had read my posts you would have understood that fear was not mentioned. Stay well fellow alum. LoveHC ps it's mm67 Obviously, tone is not conveyed well online as I am neither overheated or in need of a cool down. I do, however, think that your concerns/positions re playing P5 teams are not valid. I find the objection to playing football games against better opponents out of fear of injury or losing too bad to be pathetic. Thus, I called you fearful. Obviously, I don't know you or the rest of the no-P5 cabal personally - I am sure you are all gentlemen with fine intentions - but I find your objections to the P5 games antithetical to the soul of the game of football. To partially quote Teddy: "...who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat." Don't be cold and timid mm67, be a Crusader. |
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Post by inhocsigno on Sept 14, 2018 14:18:55 GMT -5
I am willing to say there is no appreciable greater risk of receiving an injury in one P5 game than any other Division I (FBS or FCS) game. Have you ever played on Towson's old turf?
From my observation: mm76, moose and Hcpride-less (collectively, the "Fearful") are essentially against these games because they are either embarrassing or will cause injury to our players. I cannot agree. If a player at HC tells a coach he does not want to play these games because of those two reasons, or any other reason, he should not be playing football, and he especially should not be playing at the FCS level. I guarantee there is not one kid on the team who feels as the Fearful do.
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