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Post by Sons of Vaval on Jan 21, 2018 19:01:09 GMT -5
Ralph left us in the lurch when he departed for U of L. We then followed with one horrendous and one weak coach. The program was hurt a great deal by those three things. The jury (if I am a member) is out on this third new coach who is trying to dig the program out of the ditch. Blaming what we have seen transpire on the court this year on Milan Brown is ridiculous.
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Post by hchoops on Jan 21, 2018 19:12:40 GMT -5
D3 schools coast $$ How many of the so called freshmen that do not want to lose will find a higher level school that will give them 3-4 year scholarship to play 2 or 3 years ?
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Post by hchoops on Jan 21, 2018 19:17:25 GMT -5
Ralph left us in the lurch when he departed for U of L. We then followed with one horrendous and one weak coach. The program was hurt a great deal by those three things. The jury (if I am a member) is out on this third new coach who is trying to dig the program out of the ditch. Blaming what we have seen transpire on the court this year on Milan Brown is ridiculous. How many schools have no seniors ? The 3 soph recruits are on CBC. Even if 2 or 3 could play, we would still need multiple freshmen to contribute.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jan 21, 2018 20:02:36 GMT -5
Ralph left us in the lurch when he departed for U of L. We then followed with one horrendous and one weak coach. The program was hurt a great deal by those three things. The jury (if I am a member) is out on this third new coach who is trying to dig the program out of the ditch. Blaming what we have seen transpire on the court this year on Milan Brown is ridiculous. I'm not blaming this year's losses and problems on FCMB. I said that we had a series of events that have hurt the program and have not yet gotten back on track
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Post by efg72 on Jan 21, 2018 20:35:08 GMT -5
Kids today want to play and not sit. Being part of a team is great if you are winning championships and believe you are part of something special. Yes school costs money, but if you are not playing and giving up a significant part of the college experience to do daily workouts, practice and sit, there are definitely players out there that would give up a scholarship for a better life experience. I bet one or more of the MAAC, MAC, A-10, Southern Conference Schools would have an interest in two or three of the freshmen if they wanted to transfer.
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Post by efg72 on Jan 21, 2018 20:36:28 GMT -5
Again not saying desirable but certainly a possibility and the staff should be prepared
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Post by rgs318 on Jan 21, 2018 20:52:16 GMT -5
Kids today want to play and not sit. Being part of a team is great if you are winning championships and believe you are part of something special. Yes school costs money, but if you are not playing and giving up a significant part of the college experience to do daily workouts, practice and sit, there are definitely players out there that would give up a scholarship for a better life experience. I bet one or more of the MAAC, MAC, A-10, Southern Conference Schools would have an interest in two or three of the freshmen if they wanted to transfer. That last part is significant to remember. There is no evidence at this time that any of the frosh want to transfer (except in the unsubstantiated musing of a couple of posters). Saying "I could understand if one or more players want to transfer" is not any evidence that this is a "real" possibility. It could however, encourage one or more to look at that possibility.
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Post by rgs318 on Jan 21, 2018 20:54:54 GMT -5
Again not saying desirable but certainly a possibility and the staff should be prepared I doubt that the professional coaches who have worked in this area for years need any "warnings" from any poster on CROSSPORTS to start preparing for anything. I am afraid that has as much value as the brilliant insight we see posted from time to time, "Recruit better players." Amazing insight of absolutely no value (except perhaps to the ego of the poster).
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Post by efg72 on Jan 21, 2018 21:41:45 GMT -5
My posts were little more than responses to other comments on the possibility of open scholarships and where they might come from the roster. No suggestion that it was real or close to real.
With respect to the comment that the staff should be prepared was an acknowledgement that all coaches understand their roster and the multiple options that exist at the conclusion of each season. It was not a warning
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Post by bringbackcaro on Jan 21, 2018 21:56:48 GMT -5
We played Southern, who is from the SWAC, which is the worst conference every season. There's no way of sugarcoating it. Carmody has not lived up to expectations when he was hired. That's indisputable. Well said, SOV. Amazing that some still refuse to accept the blatantly obvious truth that Bill Carmody is not the right guy for this job.
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Post by bringbackcaro on Jan 21, 2018 22:06:08 GMT -5
Blaming what we have seen transpire on the court this year on Milan Brown is ridiculous. How many schools have no seniors ? The 3 soph recruits are on CBC. Even if 2 or 3 could play, we would still need multiple freshmen to contribute. Milan left with a player in the senior class. How many schools have their coach miss on 4 of his first 5 scholarships? We should be setting the bar a lot higher than Milan Brown, but even with that being the bar, Milan outperformed Carmody, and Carmody’s team is far worse now than it was when he had more of “Milan’s guys” on the roster. Just imagine where we would be without Floyd right now.
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Post by hc87 on Jan 21, 2018 22:52:31 GMT -5
Very tough generation to coach...vis a vis playing time....goes up my ass though, anyone who would want to leave Mount St James is suspect imo
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Post by hchoops on Jan 21, 2018 22:54:15 GMT -5
Very tough generation to coach...vis a vis playing time....goes up my ass though, anyone who would want to leave Mount St James is suspect imo There is no evidence that anyone currently does want to leave.
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Post by hc87 on Jan 21, 2018 23:18:00 GMT -5
Not saying there is...but I could completely see someone leaving....totally different world today....really no school loyalty anymore to a great extent.....sad...you see kids like Hahn leaving HC for a ferkuta school...again, sad
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Post by ncaam on Jan 22, 2018 6:23:49 GMT -5
Very tough generation to coach...vis a vis playing time....goes up my ass though, anyone who would want to leave Mount St James is suspect imo There is no evidence that anyone currently does want to leave. Why would CBC have brought up the issue unless something was at least brewing.
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Post by ncaam on Jan 22, 2018 6:24:17 GMT -5
Very tough generation to coach...vis a vis playing time....goes up my ass though, anyone who would want to leave Mount St James is suspect imo There is no evidence that anyone currently does want to leave. Why would CBC have brought up the issue unless something was at least brewing.
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Post by hchoops on Jan 22, 2018 9:01:21 GMT -5
There is no evidence that anyone currently does want to leave. Why would CBC have brought up the issue unless something was at least brewing. Maybe I could respond if you wrote what CBC said.
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Post by rgs318 on Jan 22, 2018 9:05:19 GMT -5
My posts were little more than responses to other comments on the possibility of open scholarships and where they might come from the roster. No suggestion that it was real or close to real. With respect to the comment that the staff should be prepared was an acknowledgement that all coaches understand their roster and the multiple options that exist at the conclusion of each season. It was not a warning Thanks for the explanation.
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Post by letsgohc on Jan 22, 2018 10:51:12 GMT -5
Carmody was not a good hire for Holy Cross. His style of Basketball is from a time long past. He might as well have implemented the 4 Corners.
This team has talent. Carmody just doesn't know how to use them, to adjust to today's game and athletes. He should step down now, or ask to step down. And I agree with an earlier post regarding trying to hire a young coach with a positive energy to bring back life into these young men.
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Post by hopjim on Jan 27, 2018 11:42:55 GMT -5
Just a thought. Most Boards prohibit discussion of existing players transferring. For anyone who wants Holy Cross to succeed, this might be a rule to consider.
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Post by timholycross on Jan 27, 2018 12:47:06 GMT -5
Just a thought. Most Boards prohibit discussion of existing players transferring. For anyone who wants Holy Cross to succeed, this might be a rule to consider. Get 'er done, Dean Wormer. It was bad enough end of first semester last year when the Tyrone Cohen saga was going on. This type of thing is much more speculative. Not until a student-athelet or the school makes a statement, after that it's fair game including who to pin the blame on.
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Post by bringbackcaro on Jan 27, 2018 12:52:39 GMT -5
Just a thought. Most Boards prohibit discussion of existing players transferring. For anyone who wants Holy Cross to succeed, this might be a rule to consider. The only way HC is going succeed is by coaching, playing, and recruiting better.
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Post by Tom on Jan 28, 2018 22:05:21 GMT -5
Just a thought. Most Boards prohibit discussion of existing players transferring. For anyone who wants Holy Cross to succeed, this might be a rule to consider. Get 'er done, Dean Wormer. It was bad enough end of first semester last year when the Tyrone Cohen saga was going on. This type of thing is much more speculative. Not until a student-athelet or the school makes a statement, after that it's fair game including who to pin the blame on. I think it's already a rule. I don't read every thread, but I haven't seen anything specific. A couple of posters have made something about a casual comment Coach Carmody made about having the staff still keeping their eyes open even for next year because you never know what might happen. To me it sounded like due diligence. To others it sounded like a teaser of something coming. I don't particularly care for those types posts and I don't think it's necessary to try to get real close to the line, but I haven't seen the line crossed
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Post by hopjim on Jan 30, 2018 18:58:11 GMT -5
Interest in HC basketball may be at an all-time low. Program is irrelevant on so many fronts. Very sad to see. Used to live nearby 10 years ago. In the '90's, particularly for the big games with Bucknell, Boston College and sometimes Lafayette, Hart was full. When I come back to MA now, no mention of Holy Cross sports. What's going on? Has the college and AD given up?
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Post by rgs318 on Jan 30, 2018 19:54:24 GMT -5
Interest in HC basketball may be at an all-time low. Program is irrelevant on so many fronts. Very sad to see. Used to live nearby 10 years ago. In the '90's, particularly for the big games with Bucknell, Boston College and sometimes Lafayette, Hart was full. When I come back to MA now, no mention of Holy Cross sports. What's going on? Has the college and AD given up? No.
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