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Post by breezy on Feb 7, 2019 19:47:20 GMT -5
I do not know if the staff is actively pursuing any transfers; I suppose it is possible. And I suppose if a player transferring from another school came knocking, the staff would consider whether it was worth pursuing.
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Post by efg72 on Feb 7, 2019 19:51:57 GMT -5
Would really like one more DL to feel comfortable in the fall
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Post by richh on Feb 7, 2019 20:11:42 GMT -5
breezy
I know we all want more. I wonder where you guys could put anymore. Roster cap??
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Post by breezy on Feb 7, 2019 20:29:22 GMT -5
We would certainly have to adhere to the PL roster cap. I assume (but certainly do not know) that there might be some further roster attrition that might open up one or two spots. I imagine that the transfer portal works both ways. But this is all speculation anyway.
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Post by HC92 on Feb 7, 2019 21:29:58 GMT -5
breezy I know we all want more. I wonder where you guys could put anymore. Roster cap?? Not public info yet but we’re joining the Ivy League for the 2019-20 season. We can have however many players we damn well please.
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Post by rgs318 on Feb 7, 2019 21:51:06 GMT -5
...and in the IL no one has to pay anything, so "scholarships" are not needed. Now, if we just had another billion dollars in the bank to do it, that would be great!
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Post by sader1970 on Feb 7, 2019 22:18:07 GMT -5
mm67, my "inside source" who is a wee bit biased being that he's a 5th year senior OL says that the O-line will be a strength and deep. And while I am late to the party doing my income taxes ( ), let me also take time to thank breezy. Always on top of recruiting and very objective. Thanks, breezy!
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Post by HCFC45 on Feb 7, 2019 23:44:02 GMT -5
mm67, my "inside source" who is a wee bit biased being that he's a 5th year senior OL says that the O-line will be a strength and deep. And while I am late to the party doing my income taxes ( ), let me also take time to thank breezy. Always on top of recruiting and very objective. Thanks, breezy! Thought you were on a fixed income... short form, post card,requires about 10 minutes of your time ! !
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Post by hc87 on Feb 7, 2019 23:45:22 GMT -5
There are no good players in Massachusetts anyway . My floating anxiety at work, but I'd be more sanguine knowing we had an FBS transfer QB coming to the Hill next year.
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Post by sader1970 on Feb 7, 2019 23:57:36 GMT -5
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Post by hcpride on Feb 8, 2019 10:14:48 GMT -5
Some random notes on HC recruiting for the Class of 2019. Most commitments to other schools by HC offerees: Harvard -- 11 commitments Army West Point -- 6 commitments Air Force -- 6 commitments Princeton -- 5 commitments Yale -- 5 commitments (one announced commitment to The University of Yale) Some of the cooler heads on this board realized that adding football schollies and upgrading facilities were not going to make inroads v HYP nowadays. Even a dynamic recruiting coach doesn't move the needle in that regard.
I believe it was richh who long ago pointed out that inroads v CAA and MAC were the realistic way forward for PL championships and playoff runs. We're doing that (and beating our PL rivals for recruits).
(Note: Of course there are exceptions that prove rules.)
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Post by dharry13 on Feb 8, 2019 10:48:29 GMT -5
Did a little digging on Frater as he seems to be the players no one knows much about at a position of need. He had 17 offers - 9 from FCS including HC; 6 from D2; 2 from NAIA schools.
I went onto the South Dakota State football blog. The bloggers liked him on film - quickness, motor, and couldn't understand why more people weren't in on him. He did take an official visit to them, but one of the posters said it was too far from home for him. Their loss is HC's gain.
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Post by inhocsigno on Feb 8, 2019 10:51:12 GMT -5
Some random notes on HC recruiting for the Class of 2019. Most commitments to other schools by HC offerees: Harvard -- 11 commitments Army West Point -- 6 commitments Air Force -- 6 commitments Princeton -- 5 commitments Yale -- 5 commitments (one announced commitment to The University of Yale) Some of the cooler heads on this board realized that adding football schollies and upgrading facilities were not going to make inroads v HYP nowadays. Even a dynamic recruiting coach doesn't move the needle in that regard.
I believe it was richh who long ago pointed out that inroads v CAA and MAC were the realistic way forward for PL championships and playoff runs. We're doing that (and beating our PL rivals for recruits).
(Note: Of course there are exceptions that prove rules.)
This may be, but is not necessarily true in re the 11 Harvard signees. 1. We don't know how many of our signees were offered by them. Offers are not always on Twitter/public knowledge. 2. When you offer 150+ kids with good grades, seeking 15-20, necessarily the past majority of offers are going other places. 3. With no roster limits, obviously a larger number of offerees will end up in the IL and particularly HYP. I believe we are making inroads vs. HYP with scholarships and upgraded facilities. Without the former, we would be paddling upstream, and with the latter, we have an edge over many schools.
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Post by sader1970 on Feb 8, 2019 10:51:37 GMT -5
Imagine what this kid would have said if he went to Holy Cross University in Worchester?! Kid not only doesn't sound smart enough to go to Yale, I don't think he's smart enough to go to HC. He'll probably be all-Ivy by the time he finishes (graduates?).
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Post by hchoops on Feb 8, 2019 11:04:41 GMT -5
and graduate with honors in 6 or 7 years, playing every season
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Post by hcpride on Feb 8, 2019 11:28:17 GMT -5
Some random notes on HC recruiting for the Class of 2019.
Most commitments to other schools by HC offerees: Harvard -- 11 commitments Army West Point -- 6 commitments Air Force -- 6 commitments Princeton -- 5 commitments Yale -- 5 commitments (one announced commitment to The University of Yale) Some of the cooler heads on this board realized that adding football schollies and upgrading facilities were not going to make inroads v HYP nowadays. Even a dynamic recruiting coach doesn't move the needle in that regard.
I believe it was richh who long ago pointed out that inroads v CAA and MAC were the realistic way forward for PL championships and playoff runs. We're doing that (and beating our PL rivals for recruits).
(Note: Of course there are exceptions that prove rules.)
This may be, but is not necessarily true in re the 11 Harvard signees. 1. We don't know how many of our signees were offered by them. Offers are not always on Twitter/public knowledge. 2. When you offer 150+ kids with good grades, seeking 15-20, necessarily the past majority of offers are going other places. 3. With no roster limits, obviously a larger number of offerees will end up in the IL and particularly HYP. I believe we are making inroads vs. HYP with scholarships and upgraded facilities. Without the former, we would be paddling upstream, and with the latter, we have an edge over many schools. No doubt there are unknowns (and exceptions) in the recruiting process. And no doubt at all that our full schollies, upgraded facilities, and new coach are difference makers in the recruiting process v certain schools.
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Post by gks on Feb 8, 2019 11:35:43 GMT -5
Some of the cooler heads on this board realized that adding football schollies and upgrading facilities were not going to make inroads v HYP nowadays. Even a dynamic recruiting coach doesn't move the needle in that regard.
I believe it was richh who long ago pointed out that inroads v CAA and MAC were the realistic way forward for PL championships and playoff runs. We're doing that (and beating our PL rivals for recruits).
(Note: Of course there are exceptions that prove rules.)
This may be, but is not necessarily true in re the 11 Harvard signees. 1. We don't know how many of our signees were offered by them. Offers are not always on Twitter/public knowledge. 2. When you offer 150+ kids with good grades, seeking 15-20, necessarily the past majority of offers are going other places. 3. With no roster limits, obviously a larger number of offerees will end up in the IL and particularly HYP. I believe we are making inroads vs. HYP with scholarships and upgraded facilities. Without the former, we would be paddling upstream, and with the latter, we have an edge over many schools. We will make some dent in HYP recruiting. Not much but you'll steal a player or two. Where we can't compete in the amount of kids HYP, I'll add Dartmouth here too, are grabbing from FBS. This is kind of a little secret but the high profile Ivies are stealing a bunch from the big boys.
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Post by breezy on Feb 8, 2019 12:01:49 GMT -5
I think it is most probable that some good football players use their athletic ability as a means to get into HYP. Some of these players are talented enough that they could play for quite a few FBS schools. On the flip side, the absence of roster limits means that many of these players will not get much (if any) playing time. (The 2018 Harvard football roster has 111 players.) If a kid really wants to play college football, he probably should prefer HC to HYP; better chance at getting playing time and getting an education that is on a par with HYP -- but I wonder how many kids even think of this while they are being recruited.
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Post by sader1970 on Feb 8, 2019 12:23:10 GMT -5
While the education may be on a par, the reputation is not.
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Post by inhocsigno on Feb 8, 2019 12:45:11 GMT -5
I think it is most probable that some good football players use their athletic ability as a means to get into HYP. Some of these players are talented enough that they could play for quite a few FBS schools. On the flip side, the absence of roster limits means that many of these players will not get much (if any) playing time. (The 2018 Harvard football roster has 111 players.) If a kid really wants to play college football, he probably should prefer HC to HYP; better chance at getting playing time and getting an education that is on a par with HYP -- but I wonder how many kids even think of this while they are being recruited. I think that PT would be major factor in any recruits deliberations. I assume, whether it pans out to be true, that most recruits believe they will play often and early at any of these schools. It is extremely difficult to turn down H simply because it is H when they come knocking. However, if a recruit is truly knowledgeable about the education provided at HC (and some other PL Schools), as well as the HC network ,(based on the close-knit community that is HC), etc., they may be able to make the right decision and end up at HC. It is up to the coaches out there recruiting to sell those facets that make HC unique. The work of the 90-wide and getting that word out is great. However, don't give too much credit to teenagers. Here are the considerations I (as an idiot 18 yo) weighed when picking HC over HY (in no particular order): 1. position being recruited to play (HC was on offense, others were defense) 2. $$$ - back then, HC's package was better and did not include loans. 3. cable TV (HC had it, other 4 schools I visited did not). 4. females (based on visit) 5. walking distance to food/class 6. coaches 7. student community (I was a blue collar kid, so some places were a bit stuffy for me, especially as I did not know which fork to use). I would note that the players at all the schools were pretty much the same (except Dartmouth), but student bodies were of different levels of d-baggery. One day, after the current level of political animus and division abates, I'll tell the story of the night i met a drunken DJT, Jr. and knew, within minutes that UPenn was not for me. In the end, the most important factor will be the visit. If the recruit feels at home at HC, they will make it their home.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Feb 8, 2019 14:45:59 GMT -5
Some recruits may be positively influenced by the fact that Holy Cross is a Catholic college. That is a key difference we have versus HYP. That will not appeal to all student-athletes, and may be a negative for some, but we should not lose sight that for some it is a positive.
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Post by purplehaze on Feb 8, 2019 16:41:52 GMT -5
Kudos to Breezy from this poster - it’s a 12 month job as this thread started on feb 20, 2018 - what a fantastic service to all of us who soak in the info
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Post by rgs318 on Feb 8, 2019 17:06:58 GMT -5
Absolutely!!!
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Post by breezy on Feb 8, 2019 17:10:48 GMT -5
Well, I had been giving some thought to "retiring" from the job of tracking recruiting for Holy Cross football, but after all the praise that has been bestowed in recent days, I guess I'm going to have to put that aside.
Thank you to all posters who have been so kind!
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Post by rgs318 on Feb 8, 2019 17:21:13 GMT -5
You are most welcome, breezy!
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