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Post by hchoops on Aug 30, 2018 20:10:35 GMT -5
A 16 yd pr
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Post by HC92 on Aug 30, 2018 21:01:54 GMT -5
Really good night for Kalif. Lots of compliments from Bob Papa and Carl Banks on the Giants broadcast including the aforementioned comment about the Pats maybe being interested after watching him get behind their defense on multiple occasions. If Kyle Lauletta was even half-decent at football, Kalif would have had much better stats. Also had a 20-yard return negated by penalty. At a minimum, he’ll be on a practice squad but he may have shown enough to make a roster. Preferably the Giants. Hunter Sharp again got the first few returns followed by Kalif. Sharp did little in the game either as a receiver or returner. Only negative for Kalif tonight was he was targeted twice on short throws over the middle and didn’t come down with either one. Both tough plays but he would have helped his case had he caught at least one of them.
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Post by rgs318 on Aug 30, 2018 21:09:45 GMT -5
Nice summary, 92. Kalif looked good overall. It may not be enough for the Giants, but he did show other teams what he has. It would be ironic if he ended up on New England.
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Post by hchoops on Aug 30, 2018 21:11:32 GMT -5
He was targeted 7 times, highest of the game
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Post by sader1970 on Aug 30, 2018 21:42:40 GMT -5
FWIW, I watched the game with insufferable Pats' "experts" who incessantly talked about who's going to make the Pats 53 man roster (naturally) - will never buy anything from Bob's Discount Furniture. Too many split screens talking about possible Pats players while the play was going on. That said, they showed the replay of the pass to Kalif that was short and the Pats announcers said that Pat defender got away with a pass interference call. Looked pretty clear on replay. Thought he played well but that might be as viewed through purple colored glasses. The Giants coaches did have plenty to look at to evaluate him. He had a lot of chances as receiver, punt and kick off returner. No question that with a more accurate QB, he could have had an outstanding night.
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Aug 30, 2018 22:07:56 GMT -5
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Post by HC92 on Aug 30, 2018 22:07:56 GMT -5
Kalif named one of tonight’s studs by USA Today:
Kalif Raymond – Throw the stats and box score out the window. They will show one reception for 20 yards and seven targets. That sounds awful, but the reality is, Raymond ran some great routes, displayed some impressed footwork and had the quarterbacks miss him on several occasions when he had gotten himself wide open.
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Post by HC92 on Aug 30, 2018 22:11:28 GMT -5
Big Blue View calls Kalif one of tonight’s losers in its winners and losers column but notes it wasn’t his fault:
Kalif Raymond - It’s tough to call Raymond a “loser” tonight, because it isn’t anything he did wrong. In fact, he played well when he was on the field. He showed up as a receiver and on special teams. But, he always seemed to be victimized by mistakes on the part of players around him. Lauletta missed him on deep passes that would have been big gains if not touchdowns, and a long punt return was nullified by a block in the back.
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Post by hchoops on Aug 30, 2018 22:13:32 GMT -5
My fave: “He played well when he was on the field.” ‘
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Post by Ignutz on Aug 31, 2018 7:17:59 GMT -5
My fave: “He played well when he was on the field.” ‘
Completely missing how spectacular he was when he wasn't on the field. Poor kid can't catch a break!
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Post by classof83 on Aug 31, 2018 8:42:09 GMT -5
Has Kalif ever played the slot? - I know he is really fast - but he seems to be a Wes Welker/Julian Edelman type of receiver.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Aug 31, 2018 8:44:05 GMT -5
Seems like Giants' Twitter thinks Kalif will make the 53.
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Post by rgs318 on Aug 31, 2018 9:25:26 GMT -5
My fave: “He played well when he was on the field.” That is a useful skill. I often played my best on the sidelines.
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Post by HC92 on Aug 31, 2018 9:25:49 GMT -5
Don’t think Shurmur’s opening comments in his press conference bode well for Kalif but maybe I’m reading too much into it. There were two pretty bad drops by others but he might have thought Kalif should have come down with the two over the middle. I think it would be unfair at best to say Kalif could have prevented the interception on the terrible underthrown down the sideline but Shurmur might think so. Hopefully he’s talking about the one intended for Roger Lewis that maybe he could have knocked away. Both were awful throws but Lauletta is obviously making the roster so i guess Shurmur can’t blame him.
Head Coach Pat Shurmur Opening Remarks: Fourth preseason game in the books. I thought the guys played hard, we didn’t make enough plays in the end to win the game, but it was a great illustration, in my opinion, of how important it is to catch the ball. I think we fell victim to the drops, and when you’re in pro football and you’re throwing the ball around, you need to catch it, especially in those third down situations or when we take a shot on the deep ball, if the ball gets laid inside a little bit, the ball’s got to get defended.
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Post by lou on Aug 31, 2018 13:28:17 GMT -5
247sports.com predictions: KR one of six WRs to make the cut
However, Sharp has struggled in the preseason. Sharp's two drops against the Jets in the third preseason game outweighed his punt return, especially after Raymond put together two strong punt returns in preseason games three and four (in addition to showing more as a wide receiver). When it looked like he would be gone, Roger Lewis once again was buried in the final preseason game leading you to believe his run is over with the new coaching staff.
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Post by breezy on Sept 1, 2018 11:02:19 GMT -5
BUMMER!!!
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Post by HC92 on Sept 1, 2018 11:09:04 GMT -5
Fear not. He’ll get picked up. I think he’ll wind up on someone’s 53. Worst case, he’ll be on a practice squad.
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Post by hc87 on Sept 1, 2018 11:38:07 GMT -5
Hopefully he'll be in Foxboro...they could use him imo
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Kalif 2018
Sept 1, 2018 16:21:23 GMT -5
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Post by HC92 on Sept 1, 2018 16:21:23 GMT -5
Giants kept 4 QBs. Must think they can trade Webb or Lauletta.
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Post by HC92 on Sept 2, 2018 8:20:17 GMT -5
From nj.com article on the 8 Giants cuts most likely to find a home elsewhere:
4) WR - Kalif Raymond All spring and summer, Raymond looked like a deep-threat at wide receiver, capable at any moment of turning in a home run ball. Raymond came one cut away from returning a punt return for a touchdown in Week 3 of the preseason against the Jets. Raymond should see a market as teams look to fill out their wide receiver corps and eye potential big play special team threats over the next several days.
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Sept 2, 2018 15:58:55 GMT -5
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Post by HC92 on Sept 2, 2018 15:58:55 GMT -5
I was curious about Kalif’s practice squad eligibility so I did some actual digging.
If my math is correct, he has one accrued season (defined as being on the active roster for at least 6 games) so he’s okay on that count for a practice squad.
However, he has been on a practice squad for two seasons (being on a practice squad for at least 6 weeks counts as a season on a practice squad). He was on the Broncos’ practice squad for 12 weeks in 2016. Last year, he was on the Jets practice squad for one week after the fateful Raiders game before they released him again and the Giants signed him to their practice squad where he spent 5 weeks. So, that one extra week on the Jets’ practice squad made last year count as a year of practice squad participation.
So, he falls under this rule:
If a player served two seasons on a practice squad, they are eligible for a third season only if the team has at least 53 players on its active/inactive list for the duration of that player's employment.
Not sure how limiting a team might find it to have to have 53 at all times while Kalif is on the practice squad. Bottom line: I think he is eligible but with a caveat.
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Sept 2, 2018 16:04:59 GMT -5
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Post by HC92 on Sept 2, 2018 16:04:59 GMT -5
Giants signed return specialist Kaelin Clay who has played for three NFL teams. He spent some time with the Panthers last season where the current Giants GM worked. Clay has returned two punts for touchdowns in his NFL career. Hunter Sharp was released in a corresponding move.
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Post by HC92 on Sept 3, 2018 14:12:15 GMT -5
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Post by HC92 on Sept 3, 2018 20:22:31 GMT -5
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Post by WCHC Sports on Sept 4, 2018 9:53:09 GMT -5
Just one less reason to root for the Giants.
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Post by joe on Sept 4, 2018 10:10:49 GMT -5
Gimme a break. Just be quiet.
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