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Post by Non Alum Dave on Jan 15, 2019 6:45:46 GMT -5
Noticed that KCope did not play. I wonder if his back is bothering him again(?). Seems strange that they would go to both CLS and Ziggy and not give him a shot.
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Post by sader1970 on Jan 15, 2019 7:08:17 GMT -5
I believe some posters noticed Connor was out of his boot at the last home game. The announcers said last night he was in the boot and tried to show it on the camera but was mostly blocked by the body of a player so couldn't tell for sure. A set back to his recovery?
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Post by possum on Jan 15, 2019 7:16:10 GMT -5
Bucknell really moved the ball very well last night resulting in numerous easy looks. Allowing dribble penetration, which has not been a big issue this year, was a big problem last night. The bench other than Benzan makes little to no impact, really need Niego back to compete with upper echelon of the league. Was surprised that Copeland got no action maybe hurt again. It's very disconcerting that Hargis gets no play despite the sorry state of the bench. Was good to see Faw hit some shots as his shooting has been off for awhile.
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Post by sader1970 on Jan 15, 2019 7:17:42 GMT -5
While I still believe you are never as good as you think you are when things are going well and never as bad as you think when things are going poorly, add me to those who are not big fans of diving at an opponent taking a 3 point shot. First because it virtually never works with a block under the best scenario or a deviated shot under good or normal conditions. Instead, we see a lot of fouls and 4 point plays (think AB) or more commonly, the HC player way out of play as I can attest to catching Matt Husek when I had court side seats.
If if it was such a great tactic, why don't we see other, better teams using it?
And it happens with way too much frequency to be just a rogue player doing their own thing. This is definitely a coached play.
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Post by alum on Jan 15, 2019 7:51:24 GMT -5
While I still believe you are never as good as you think you are when things are going well and never as bad as you think when things are going poorly, add me to those who are not big fans of diving at an opponent taking a 3 point shot. First because it virtually never works with a block under the best scenario or a deviated shot under good or normal conditions. Instead, we see a lot of fouls and 4 point plays (think AB) or more commonly, the HC player way out of play as I can attest to catching Matt Husek when I had court side seats. If if it was such a great tactic, why don't we see other, better teams using it? And it happens with way too much frequency to be just a rogue player doing their own thing. This is definitely a coached play. I think that we are all in agreement (happens once in a while) that diving past three point shooters is not helpful. That move looks like the player is working hard, but that doesn't change the fact that it is a waste of energy and puts the player out of position. I would assume that we were all pleased with the hard-nosed play from AB last night. Let me just say that he is certainly prone to reckless play at times. It is all a matter of degree. Does anybody else think that JF has avoided some defensive challenges early in order to stay out of foul trouble during the last few games?
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Post by bigfan on Jan 15, 2019 8:09:37 GMT -5
The freshmen must be bad, they are not getting any playing time. It's time to review our recruiting procedures.
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Post by gks on Jan 15, 2019 8:25:30 GMT -5
Bucknell is Patriot League really good. You look even better when you're draining wide-open shots.
Holy Cross is Patriot League next level down from Bucknell.
Winning on the road is really, really hard.
Surprised that HC did not put up more of a fight early but not surprised at the final result.
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Post by efg72 on Jan 15, 2019 8:33:26 GMT -5
While I still believe you are never as good as you think you are when things are going well and never as bad as you think when things are going poorly, add me to those who are not big fans of diving at an opponent taking a 3 point shot. First because it virtually never works with a block under the best scenario or a deviated shot under good or normal conditions. Instead, we see a lot of fouls and 4 point plays (think AB) or more commonly, the HC player way out of play as I can attest to catching Matt Husek when I had court side seats. If if it was such a great tactic, why don't we see other, better teams using it? And it happens with way too much frequency to be just a rogue player doing their own thing. This is definitely a coached play. I think that we are all in agreement (happens once in a while) that diving past three point shooters is not helpful. That move looks like the player is working hard, but that doesn't change the fact that it is a waste of energy and puts the player out of position. I would assume that we were all pleased with the hard-nosed play from AB last night. Let me just say that he is certainly prone to reckless play at times. It is all a matter of degree. Does anybody else think that JF has avoided some defensive challenges early in order to stay out of foul trouble during the last few games? Yes and would not be surprised if it is by design. If you think about how we have lost the ability to control tempo early, perhaps moving him outside the arc area on defense, and not looking to protect the basket as aggressively, is a reason for much of the confusion and defensive lapses. with that said, whatever those adjustments might be has little to do with flying out at the 3 pt shooter, which I never understood.
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Post by lou on Jan 15, 2019 8:39:03 GMT -5
It looked like CN had the boot back on again.  I think I heard the announcer mention it, although I wouldn’t rely on them too much for factual information. Announcer also said Niego would be back in a few weeks
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Post by trimster on Jan 15, 2019 8:48:12 GMT -5
In all seriousness, we are what we are in D1 hoop today....just another low, mid-major playing out the string until the league tournament....it's beyond boring at this point. Unfortunately, sad but true. The 3 incoming fresh better be players to help compensate for two empty classes. It’s also very disconcerting we can only bring in one recruit in the class of 2024.
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Post by Tom on Jan 15, 2019 9:07:21 GMT -5
Lutz said on the radio the knees are the reason he has played so little. Said both were wrapped heavily tonight This also confirms what Coach Carmody said back in November that Ziggy's knees were an on-going issue. It is just my own opinion with no medical training, that the knees aren't going to get significantly better to the point where Ziggy will once again give us extra depth. I think he is relegated to spot minutes during disasters when a calm senior is needed. In all fairness, he wasn't lightning quick as a freshman. Bad knees are only going to detract from that
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Post by rgs318 on Jan 15, 2019 10:02:28 GMT -5
In all seriousness, we are what we are in D1 hoop today....just another low, mid-major playing out the string until the league tournament....it's beyond boring at this point. Just a reminder...boredom is voluntary. If you choose to be bored, no one can stop you.
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Post by sader1970 on Jan 15, 2019 10:29:43 GMT -5
Let me respond to the 2nd highlight first. Who do you think in the PL is more "athletic" than Jehyve Floyd? (Rhetorical, I know your answer - no one) And, I would argue that Austin Butler is also very "athletic" as witness his two-sport, successful high school career in both basketball but also as football QB. This young man looks like Superman out there and tough as nails.
Austin and Jehyve, "dive" at 3 point shooters, AB in particular, because no one is close to the shooter. I have seen him and others running from literally the other side of the court when they see a shooter with no one within 8-10 feet of them when they catch the ball.
It appears to me that it is not so much individual quickness or athleticism being the problem but being out of position where someone has either "lost" their man or the zone didn't rotate fast enough. As you previously indicated, CG and PB certainly seem quick enough.
On a slightly different subject, I am concerned about JG's play of late. He is definitely shooting less (has Carmody listened to posters here that want to feed, feed, feed Jehyve?) and when he gets the ball, he seems often very hesitant to shoot, especially the short/mid-range jumpers that he has excelled at in the past.
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Post by hopjim on Jan 15, 2019 10:57:39 GMT -5
I think we win tonight if Floyd is able to play 30+ minutes. Through four games, we are #1 in the PL in defensive 2PT FG%, while Bucknell is eighth in 2PT FG shooting. Bruce Moore is the one guy that scares me. If Floyd ends up drawing Sestina, I fear he will get brought out to the perimeter quite a bit, and I'm not comfortable with Faw trying to match up with Moore, who will bulldoze him over. Wouldn't surprise me if we see a good deal of the 1-3-1 tonight. As we saw, this goes both ways. Suspect if Floyd played more minutes, would have been closer. No one, including Sestina, can guard him underneath. Wonderful job of recruiting and player development.
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Post by hopjim on Jan 15, 2019 11:00:14 GMT -5
I bet Butler has a lot of family and friends at the game. Bucknell sure has a deep bench. HC not so much. No lead is safe with the three point shot Bucknell's tendency to play 10 + each game typically gets them in trouble. We saw this a bit in second half. Doubt this will continue once we reach playoffs.
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Post by purplehaze on Jan 15, 2019 11:03:54 GMT -5
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Post by Ray on Jan 15, 2019 11:05:57 GMT -5
In all seriousness, we are what we are in D1 hoop today....just another low, mid-major playing out the string until the league tournament....it's beyond boring at this point. Indeed, your repetitive posts are beyond boring.
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Post by Ray on Jan 15, 2019 11:06:47 GMT -5
It looked like CN had the boot back on again. I think I heard the announcer mention it, although I wouldn’t rely on them too much for factual information. The announcer's quote was "a couple of weeks away".
As you say, not sure how much stock to put in that. But it does at least suggest that a red-shirt is off the table.
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Post by res on Jan 15, 2019 11:09:23 GMT -5
Birdsong is indeed an "acquired taste" to say the least, and one that I admit as a Bucknell alum and fan that I have never acquired. I watch with the sound muted.
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Post by classof83 on Jan 15, 2019 11:15:46 GMT -5
After 3 games with the same issue - wide open 3-point shots, the defense is clearly a problem - and CBC said as much in the post game interview - saying the defense played last night was terrible.
I really don't see that our players are any less athletic than any other team in the league - with the exception of maybe Tejada at Lehigh. I think a lot of times when the ball is sent to an open space our guy run out to face them and are either late or the forward momentum allows the player to dribble pass them (that has happened a few times to JF). I noticed that Bucknell played aggressive man-to-man defense on our perimeter players at the start of the game and limited our ability to pass the ball around the perimeter to create open looks or to get the ball into the middle of the floor. I am not sure why we don't do the same thing - we hope to be able to collapse into the middle and then close out on a player as the ball swings into an area.
I expect we are going to see some changes going forward.
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Post by lou on Jan 15, 2019 11:39:10 GMT -5
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jan 15, 2019 11:45:24 GMT -5
Re: our 3 point shot defense and "flying at the shooter": our opponents are shooting 32.9% on threes for the season, putting HC's defense at #125 for the season.
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Post by WorcesterGray on Jan 15, 2019 11:52:24 GMT -5
Lack of defensive quickness on the perimeter results in open shooters on the arc. We sometimes rush to close out the three with two defenders, leaving open shooters elsewhere, which quick ball-reversals exploit. We also run a couple defenders at the ball to try to create turnovers, which may be what really drives this high-risk strategy. In any case, trying to catch up with ball movement often seems to cascade during a possession so that multiple guys are out of position, which also impacts our rebounding. Running Floyd out to the arc leaves us even more vulnerable underneath.
At the beginning of league play, Holy Cross was ranked 135th in opponent EFG%. We're now 208th, well into the bottom half of D1. Carmody's post-Princeton teams have finished in the top half of D1 in this category just three times in sixteen seasons (2001-02, 2009-10, 2012-13). Whether there are changes in the defense or not, it's questionable whether it will impact opponents' shooting success.
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Post by timholycross on Jan 15, 2019 11:53:01 GMT -5
In all seriousness, we are what we are in D1 hoop today....just another low, mid-major playing out the string until the league tournament....it's beyond boring at this point. Just a reminder...boredom is voluntary. If you choose to be bored, no one can stop you. Nothing in Bucknell's 2018-19 resume would indicate a reason for their team or followers to be bored. I hope Holy Cross is trying for the same results.
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Post by WorcesterGray on Jan 15, 2019 11:57:45 GMT -5
Re: our 3 point shot defense and "flying at the shooter": our opponents are shooting 32.9% on threes for the season, putting HC's defense at #125 for the season. Pomeroy, among others, would not be impressed.
Opponents are also shooting 53% on twos putting HC a lowly 257th. Flying around constantly during possessions leaves us vulnerable whenever - and wherever - the shot comes from..
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