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Bucknell
Jan 11, 2020 13:31:14 GMT -5
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Post by lou on Jan 11, 2020 13:31:14 GMT -5
3 combined points in 4th Q by two undefeated teams
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Bucknell
Jan 11, 2020 13:32:15 GMT -5
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Post by longsuffering on Jan 11, 2020 13:32:15 GMT -5
Manis breaks the drought. 7 pts down 2.5 minutes left
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Bucknell
Jan 11, 2020 13:32:19 GMT -5
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Post by purplehaze on Jan 11, 2020 13:32:19 GMT -5
6 1/2 minutes into the 4th qtr, we’re 1 of 11 from the field and Bucky is 0 of 9 - I say ‘opportunity lost’
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Post by HC13 on Jan 11, 2020 13:33:01 GMT -5
This is truly an ugly game HC outscoring BU 5-1 in the fourth w/ under 2 to go
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Post by HC13 on Jan 11, 2020 13:37:34 GMT -5
I've seen better play from 6th grade CYO girls teams
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Post by purplehaze on Jan 11, 2020 13:43:46 GMT -5
Any more games line this where we’re outcoached and outplayed, count me among those who want a new coach with the rebuild facing us next season - hey, it’s only one game but this team is not playing well (even in our wins)
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Post by ndgradbuthcfan on Jan 11, 2020 14:04:17 GMT -5
Any more games line this where we’re outcoached and outplayed, count me among those who want a new coach with the rebuild facing us next season - hey, it’s only one game but this team is not playing well (even in our wins) Agree with the outplayed part; we did lose the game. Do not agree that we were out coached. Bucknell scored 51 friggin points and we blew at least 10 layups. If we hold a very good team to 51 points and our offense gets the ball to players who miss bunnies or we miss bunnies on drives, how can you pin that on the coach. Oh yeah, missing free throw, too. We hustled the entire game, never gave up and that is the sign of a well coached team.
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Bucknell
Jan 11, 2020 14:24:41 GMT -5
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Post by purplehaze on Jan 11, 2020 14:24:41 GMT -5
Respectfully disagree - if you saw the Loyola, navy and Lafayette games, today’s performance was predictable and Coach Mac has to get them playing better - motivation is part of her job
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Post by longsuffering on Jan 11, 2020 14:31:49 GMT -5
Coach AM is working Addie Cross into games on a gradual basis and Cross is improving steadily, so AM is one for one with healthy (assumed Flaherty is not fully healthy) freshmen. AM also actively responded to the shooting drought with four non-starters playing along with Manis at one point during which I believe we outscored Bucknell.
Missed bunnies are connected to technique which coaching has some responsibility for. The top two coaches were decorated college front court players so they should be able to teach technique, footwork, timing on shots near the basket.
Interesting proposition for ADMB. AM is a free agent after this season. But unlike the Tom Brady contract situation, MB could slap the franchise tag on her and sign her to another one year deal.
That would leave powder dry for a possible change in Men's Hockey which could be a more pressing issue at the end of the season, or using resources to lock up Chesney.
Even our players with among the best "touch" in the league, Lauren and Avery were having shots spin out today. You can't be among the national leaders in shooting percentage and not expect a few shooting droughts to follow.
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Bucknell
Jan 11, 2020 14:33:45 GMT -5
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Post by longsuffering on Jan 11, 2020 14:33:45 GMT -5
Respectfully disagree - if you saw the Loyola, navy and Lafayette games, today’s performance was predictable and Coach Mac has to get them playing better - motivation is part of her job
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Bucknell
Jan 11, 2020 14:35:59 GMT -5
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Post by longsuffering on Jan 11, 2020 14:35:59 GMT -5
Respectfully disagree - if you saw the Loyola, navy and Lafayette games, today’s performance was predictable and Coach Mac has to get them playing better - motivation is part of her job Your point is valid. Two straight early day games at home with no classes, so the players should be rested and focused.
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Post by ndgradbuthcfan on Jan 11, 2020 14:48:57 GMT -5
I agree with the fact the coach needs to motivate the players not to miss bunnies.
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Post by rgs318 on Jan 11, 2020 14:53:47 GMT -5
If you are missing bunnies, it is typically not a lack of motivation, but a lack of concentration that is the problem.
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Post by ndgradbuthcfan on Jan 11, 2020 14:58:56 GMT -5
You disliked my post but it was a sarcastic response to the posts which preceded it.
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Post by rgs318 on Jan 11, 2020 15:02:30 GMT -5
You disliked my post but it was a sarcastic response to the posts which preceded it. Thanks for explaining. I wondered what the heck you were talking about. Today's 2 games have me a bit disorganized (trouble concentrating).
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Post by longsuffering on Jan 11, 2020 15:15:49 GMT -5
I'm listening to the Men's game at Bucknell. Their band sounds great. Bucknell really has great school spirit in support of their BB teams. In a crucial battle of unbeaten teams at the Hart the HC band was absent today. ADMB can't and shouldn't force the band to play at home games to support our teams, but if it is a matter of resource allocation to support the band I hope he is at least discussing this to see what he can do.
Perhaps something creative like committing to fundraise to assure a Band trip to Dublin, Ireland once every four year cycle to play in the St. Patrick's Parade or something like that might provide a negotiated incentive to increase coverage at games a little. Try a little "soft power" leadership to reward participation.
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Post by purplehaze on Jan 11, 2020 16:55:41 GMT -5
Bucknell students return today from winter break - HC one week later that might explain - I think ADMB has a lot on his plate right just trying to figure out how to reverse so much of the losing.
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Post by longsuffering on Jan 11, 2020 17:01:12 GMT -5
Bucknell students return today from winter break - HC one week later that might explain - I think ADMB has a lot on his plate right just trying to figure out how to reverse so much of the losing. Yes, it's easy for me to sit in my retirement rocking chair and think of things for him to do.
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Post by Ray on Jan 11, 2020 17:37:09 GMT -5
I'm listening to the Men's game at Bucknell. Their band sounds great. Bucknell really has great school spirit in support of their BB teams. In a crucial battle of unbeaten teams at the Hart the HC band was absent today. Students are on break. Nothing to see here.
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Post by bison137 on Jan 11, 2020 19:21:10 GMT -5
Bucknell students return today from winter break - HC one week later that might explain - I think ADMB has a lot on his plate right just trying to figure out how to reverse so much of the losing. Actually return tomorrow afternoon/evening. Other than a few athletes, cheerleaders, and band, I don't think I saw any students at all on campus today.
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Post by sarasota on Jan 12, 2020 0:30:24 GMT -5
HC's band is marginal at best. Same for cheerleaders. Fits the pattern in HC's sports dept. It's clear that resources have been directed towards Internet development.
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Post by sader1970 on Jan 12, 2020 10:47:06 GMT -5
Perhaps better for HC16 or 8485 to respond. But as a frequent attendee at the Hart Center and Fitton, the band in particular is phenomenal. Their spirit is something that helps create a great atmosphere especially in the Hart. The cheerleaders do their routines well but they could improve on actually leading cheers. The Dance Ensemble who perform with semi-regularity are very good and compare well with other schools that I've seen at away games.
Perhaps the above post was just to get some discussion going?
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Bucknell
Jan 12, 2020 11:17:51 GMT -5
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Post by longsuffering on Jan 12, 2020 11:17:51 GMT -5
I'll take the bait and continue the discussion. Agree with the positive assessment about the band. I was within range of 1440AM during the Men's game and driving a family member's car with a fabulous sound system. Their band, like the HC band sounded great and made the game that much more compelling.
The concern that resources have been diverted for internet development resonates because when you look at the staff list you see a large amount of resources have gone to media, web, marketing, etc. Ironically, I use those services for free but at the same time I have thought: "put the steak before the sizzle by building winning teams before building marketing/publicity/media," but obviously it is easier to build the sizzle than the steak.
PP has educated us that HC is often near the bottom of the PL in spending on different sports. How about spending on "internet development" as Sarasota calls it? Hard to imagine we are near the bottom in that.
But again, don't cut off my PLN please.😁
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Post by CHC8485 on Jan 12, 2020 12:38:20 GMT -5
As most of you know, both of my kids played in the band so I’m biased. So, with that as disclaimer ...
I can’t speak to cheerleaders but the band is marginal compared to what? The sound of a Big 10 band? Sure.
The fact that it exists makes it far less marginal compared to most PL schools or any other school with 2500 - 4000 students. How were the Fordham, Georgetown and Colgate bands at halftime of their football games year? Right. They don’t have marching bands. How was the Colgate pep band in the NCAA basketball tournament last year? Oh that’s right they didn’t go and Colgate did what many other schools do in the tournament and used one of the other school’s band in Colgate shirts as a ringer.
Salary for the director was bumped up about 5 years ago so that the last 2 directors (covering 5 years) hold terminal degrees in music with extensive backgrounds in marching bands and music education. The school made an investment in the position.
And for the record, the band is a Student activity and is primarily funded through that office, not Athletics. As a student activity, there are math, biology, physics, English, history, psychology, etc. majors with at most a couple of music majors. As such the members of the band do not do it because they get course credit (like bands a bigger schools), performance experience for a career or something else related to music after college. They are volunteers and I can say definitively that all members do it because they enjoy it and being with one another.
For the last 10 years the students in the band have shown up for FB, Men’s & women’s BB and hockey when few others would. And they exhibit far more enthusiasm in their cheering and playing through thick and (mostly) thin than anyone else in the gym or stadium. Ask anyone who attends the games. Attendance has waned a bit in recent years, but 10 years of, at best, mediocre on field performance will test a group’s collective resolve and enthusiasm.
So with that understood, if that makes the band marginal, I’ll still take them over anyone else’s band because I have known the kids involved since 2012 and they represent a lot of what is right about Holy Cross, add to the game day environment and they actually do sound pretty good too.
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Post by rgs318 on Jan 12, 2020 12:50:05 GMT -5
Please know I agree with all of your points. I have no one in the band and I can 't carry a tune in a bucket. I appreciate the band efforts and the energy that comes with them wherever they perform. I haven't seen the band dance in some time and I miss it. PS: My sons each worked in the music industry and my older son for some time had the office next door to JayZ. He got into the band in junior high because band members got the best teachers. His musical playing is limited BUT, for a number of years he was the top A+R person in the industry (every takldent he signed went platinum). Never underestimate band members!
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