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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Oct 21, 2016 18:25:40 GMT -5
HC refers to it as The Luth Athletic Complex and Field House.
Within the Complex are the Hart court, Hart rink, and Hart pool.
As Park Smith is lead donor for the renovations to the OFH, the usual course would be to re-name the OFH as the Smith Field House. However, there is a college in Northampton already named after a Smith.
Time will tell.
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Oct 21, 2016 19:23:25 GMT -5
I actually took a walk through the old fieldhouse for the very first time last weekend. Not that it's the Taj Mahal, but based on all the commentary I've read on this board it wasn't as bad as I thought it would be; at least it looked like it served a purpose. That being said, looks like that building is going to get a real nice overhaul.
Looks like they really got a lot done on the new building this week. Looking forward to stepping into the Hart on 11/1.
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Post by rgs318 on Oct 22, 2016 7:27:48 GMT -5
NAD, not this "folk." The fieldhouse was, is and always will be "the fieldhouse" to me. Any part of the Luth is "Luth something or other" but not "the fieldhouse." To my understanding, the whole of Luth is close to 100% for the varsity athletes. On what basis would anyone decide the fieldhouse, which was always primarily for the non-varsity students (think intramural basketball among other things) and will remain for non-varsity students when completely renovated, should no longer be called that name? [This diatribe not directed at you NAD, or anyone else, just a gripe of people unilaterally changing building names - unlike "Brooks-Mulledy" ] Now I know this all sounds kind of reactionary and indeed I admit it is. As a 5 year old being shown "the fieldhouse" by Fr. Hart, that's it's name for me. Of course, I think he told my Dad it was "the new fieldhouse" which it was back in the early 50's. OK, carry on! I feel much the same. I had a small office in the field house and my chief job was replacing he torn nets for intramural hoops. By Fr. Hart standards, the "old" fieldhoiuse was the barn that was, I believe, HC's first "indoor" court. It was announced at diner that HC was getting a "field house" and the students all cheered. The next day, the cows were driven out of the barn and a flor was put down. I guess when we complain about the amenities of the Hart, we should remember just how far HC has come from that time.
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Post by CHC8485 on Oct 25, 2016 20:50:43 GMT -5
Another construction milestone ...
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Post by rickii on Oct 26, 2016 17:29:59 GMT -5
Gorgeous back-lit twilight image right now on the webcam. Also see a 2nd American flag atop the new Hart entrance area.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Oct 27, 2016 8:57:30 GMT -5
I believe this beam is atop the new practice court. As rickii mentions, the flag can be seen on the webcam near the main Hart entrance.
They are still installing steel at the south end of the NFH.
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Post by DiMarz on Oct 28, 2016 9:17:10 GMT -5
The front entrance to the building will be open today! I got to talk with Barry Parenteau last night at the Compass. He said the building looks great, and thinks everybody will love what they have done in such a short period of time...
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Post by crusader12 on Oct 31, 2016 13:02:17 GMT -5
The Holy Cross Athletics Ticket Office is MOVING to the Luth Athletic Complex!
Beginning Monday, October 31st the Holy Cross Athletics Ticket Office will open in its BRAND NEW home inside the front entrance of the Luth Athletic Complex! When you enter the doors at the front of the building, the Ticket Office will be immediately on your right.
The Athletics Ticket Office will provide some new amenities including:
Four full service windows with more room for faster service Expanded hours to help you with all of your ticketing needs Easier access for in-person purchasing Our new hours are from 9 a.m. to 5 p.m. Monday-Friday and all gamedays.
Do not worry, many of the services that you have become accustomed to have not changed:
Our phone number is still 1-844-GOCROSS. Our online ticket site is still GoHolyCross.com/tickets If you have any questions or are in need of directions feel free to contact Anthony Moore, Director of Ticket Sales and Operations, at 508-793-3427 or by email at amoore@holycross.edu.
We will see you soon Crusader fans!
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Post by purplehaze on Oct 31, 2016 15:03:30 GMT -5
now this is looking more like a D.1 program every day, but will the ticket window really be open 9-5 M-F ? hope whoever is behind the window is a student on work-study because they'll be able to get their work done.
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Post by sarasota on Nov 1, 2016 4:20:19 GMT -5
Just asking: Can the NFH accommodate a regulation base ball diamond or a regulation LAX field? Would it be possible to quickly and temporarily convert a portion to some tennis courts? Can soccer or field hockey be played on the surface?
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Nov 1, 2016 6:19:01 GMT -5
Just asking: Can the NFH accommodate a regulation base ball diamond or a regulation LAX field? Would it be possible to quickly and temporarily convert a portion to some tennis courts? Can soccer or field hockey be played on the surface? Lax field? Yes. Soccer: Practiced. Too narrow for competition. Field hockey. Practiced. The width is close to the required width for competition. But the surface is not the surface used in competition. Baseball/softball. The equipment list indicates there will be some baseball practice, batting cages etc. But not a diamond. Not on the equipment list was an indoor mound, but that certainly could be bought by HC. Tennis courts. More likely to see a court in the renovated OFH. There is a scoreboard with home and visitors.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Nov 1, 2016 6:27:49 GMT -5
now this is looking more like a D.1 program every day, but will the ticket window really be open 9-5 M-F ? hope whoever is behind the window is a student on work-study because they'll be able to get their work done. The new ticket window is beyond the shoulder of the girl with sunglasses. The window looking in on the rink is beyond the students sitting on blue stools.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Nov 1, 2016 9:48:44 GMT -5
Re: the football practice field. Will the field be crowned or is it a flat surface? Just curious
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Post by sarasota on Nov 1, 2016 10:13:54 GMT -5
PP- thx
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Nov 1, 2016 10:47:37 GMT -5
I don't believe there is a crown. I say that only from looking at other indoor fields, in that there does not appear to be a crown.
The field, aside from lines for football, is lined for lacrosse and field hockey.
From reading this, it may be the fiber height In Luth is different than what is used outdoors at Fr. K field. Indoor football practices are not likely to feature blocking and tackling, so there would be less need for infill, The shorter the fiber, the more suitable it is for field hockey.
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Post by rickii on Nov 1, 2016 10:58:00 GMT -5
now this is looking more like a D.1 program every day, but will the ticket window really be open 9-5 M-F ? hope whoever is behind the window is a student on work-study because they'll be able to get their work done. The new ticket window is beyond the shoulder of the girl with sunglasses. The window looking in on the rink is beyond the students sitting on blue stools. Comparing the old-new plus this rendering....the balcony on the upper right is a dead-end to the right, correct ?
Is the 2nd floor ceiling really decorative wood slats as depicted ?
Is the entrance to the rink between the purple mural and the staircase....with a viewing window to the right of the elevator ?
Is there also a viewing window as depicted on the 2nd floor ?
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Post by rickii on Nov 1, 2016 11:05:09 GMT -5
pp -
I've observed pre-season practices at two D-I indoor buildings and this was not the case. Full practices conducted at each ( Obviously small sample size ).
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Post by CHC8485 on Nov 1, 2016 11:06:13 GMT -5
The new ticket window is beyond the shoulder of the girl with sunglasses. The window looking in on the rink is beyond the students sitting on blue stools. Comparing the old-new plus this rendering....the balcony on the upper right is a dead-end to the right, correct ?
Is the 2nd floor ceiling really decorative wood slats as depicted ?
Is the entrance to the rink between the purple mural and the staircase....with a viewing window to the right of the elevator ?
Is there also a viewing window as depicted on the 2nd floor ?
rick, Did a quick walk-thru late Saturday afternoon. As best I can recall ... 1. Yes it is a dead end. Windows look out toward Hogan, the city, and beyond. 2. Did not notice, but I don't think so. At the same time there is still work to be done in the area. 3. Yes that is the entrance to the rink and yes that is a relatively small window into the rink. 4. Yes, that is also a window into the rink on the second floor. One other note on the ticket windows. There are 3 or 4 ticket windows over where the 3 people are gathered to the right of the woman in the sungalsses. There is also another ticket window on the wall just forward of the woman exiting to the right of the woman in the sunglasses.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Nov 1, 2016 11:32:46 GMT -5
pp - I've observed pre-season practices at two D-I indoor buildings and this was not the case. Full practices conducted at each ( Obviously small sample size ). If it is an indoor practice facility to be used only for football, then the institution would go for the longer fiber and more infill to provide greater cushioning. I personally don't think HC football will be doing much in the way of indoor practice, unless the weather is really inclement, or the team goes deep into the FCS playoffs. Michigan has the ability to crank up the heat at its indoor practice facility to simulate playing in a January bowl in Miami or New Orleans.
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Post by hchoops on Nov 1, 2016 11:46:33 GMT -5
pp - I've observed pre-season practices at two D-I indoor buildings and this was not the case. Full practices conducted at each ( Obviously small sample size ). I personally don't think HC football will be doing much in the way of indoor practice, unless the weather is really inclement, or the team goes deep into the FCS playoffs. If you are correct, that is a lot of money for a low use primary purpose building. Presuming it is air conditioned, would not the team practice there often on the pre season very hot days ?
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Post by rickii on Nov 1, 2016 12:24:19 GMT -5
pp - I've observed pre-season practices at two D-I indoor buildings and this was not the case. Full practices conducted at each ( Obviously small sample size ). If it is an indoor practice facility to be used only for football, then the institution would go for the longer fiber and more infill to provide greater cushioning. I personally don't think HC football will be doing much in the way of indoor practice, unless the weather is really inclement, or the team goes deep into the FCS playoffs. Michigan has the ability to crank up the heat at its indoor practice facility to simulate playing in a January bowl in Miami or New Orleans. As with HC, these indoor buildings were touted as 'multi-functional' for several/all outdoor men and women sports ( i.e. TITLE IX factor ). While the surface is the latest FieldTurf product ( matching the surface in the football stadiums or at HC, the outdoor football/lax field ), m/w soccer, field hockey, baseball, softball, lacrosse and even some track&field athletes can utilize the building for both off-season and in-season practices. These buildings can be very useful in cold weather, hot weather, rainy weather or at HC, in snowy weather. As to the Michigan reference, must be costly to crank up and maintain either the heat or a/c in these massive buildings as needed.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Nov 1, 2016 14:02:11 GMT -5
I personally don't think HC football will be doing much in the way of indoor practice, unless the weather is really inclement, or the team goes deep into the FCS playoffs. If you are correct, that is a lot of money for a low use primary purpose building. Presuming it is air conditioned, would not the team practice there often on the pre season very hot days ? There is an air handling system, with a large outflow screen along the west wall. However, I have not seen chillers, The indoor field house is about 2.5 million cubic feet, give or take a few hundred thousand cubic feet. The chiller capacity to cool that is at least several hundred tons. Sweat is good. I expect it will be heated, but I would be surprised if it was heated much above 50-55 degrees. ___________________________________ The goal post(s?) are suspended from the ceiling, there is no single post at field level supporting the cross-bar. . .
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Post by lou on Nov 1, 2016 14:08:55 GMT -5
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Post by sarasota on Nov 1, 2016 16:49:25 GMT -5
left click on the image
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Post by timholycross on Nov 1, 2016 23:26:26 GMT -5
Re: the football practice field. Will the field be crowned or is it a flat surface? Just curious I'm sure there's no crown. No need for one. Cannot think of a crown on the newer artificial surfaces (since 2000, say)...and I've been on a lot of them as a soccer referee. Maybe the slightest of pitches, but that would only be for drainage...and inside there isn't any. You should see some of the old grass football fields (that some high schools use as soccer fields). Has to be at least a foot difference in height from sideline to midfield.
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