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Post by armsue on Feb 22, 2021 16:12:29 GMT -5
Hate him or love him. The guy can flat out coach. He had Iona on a big roll knocking of league leading Monmouth back to back. But Iona just announced they canceled the rest of their season.
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Post by bison137 on Feb 22, 2021 16:39:57 GMT -5
Hate him or love him. The guy can flat out coach. He had Iona on a big roll knocking of league leading Monmouth back to back. But Iona just announced they canceled the rest of their season. They only cancelled the rest of their regular season. They plan to play in the MAAC tournament.
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Post by thecrossisback on Feb 22, 2021 16:43:08 GMT -5
Pitino has done a good job this year when Iona has had over 45 days of not being able to practice or play. He also got the COVID this year along with some of his players.
The thing Pitino has done a good job with is recruiting kids from all different countries. Look at their current roster and incoming roster.
Also next year they are getting some big teams to play them at the Garden.
He said in an interview a few years ago the three spots he wanted to go were Providence, Holy Cross and Iona.
All the haters, the guy wins. The guy wins.
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Post by hchoops on Feb 22, 2021 16:44:40 GMT -5
And exactly who believed him ?
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Post by possum on Feb 22, 2021 17:25:06 GMT -5
The quickest way for BC to become competitive is to hire Pitino.
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Post by hchoops on Feb 22, 2021 17:27:17 GMT -5
And get put on probation
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Post by newfieguy74 on Feb 22, 2021 17:34:08 GMT -5
I would rather go 3-29 every year for the next hundred years than hire Pitino at HC.
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Post by possum on Feb 22, 2021 17:45:06 GMT -5
I don't think BU, Providence or Kentucky ended up on probation so there's only a 25% chance you'll end up on there. In the meantime, you might end up in the Final Four. Besides how bad can he be, Ralph Willard is his best friend and he's not a bad guy is he.
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Post by hchoops on Feb 22, 2021 17:54:50 GMT -5
Pitino is his own best friend
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Post by efg72 on Feb 22, 2021 17:59:11 GMT -5
I would bet the record the past two years, regardless of the roster, would be closer to 40-7 than it is to 7-40 if Pitino was the coach
Sometimes our attachment to the past and program behaviors are in conflict.
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Post by possum on Feb 22, 2021 18:08:28 GMT -5
The job Pitino did with the probation ridden Kentucky program was as good a coaching job as there has ever been not to mention taking Providence to the Final Four. You may not like the man but there's no question that he can flat out coach.
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Post by thecrossisback on Feb 22, 2021 18:29:07 GMT -5
I would rather go 3-29 every year for the next hundred years than hire Pitino at HC. If you are not going to hire somebody for their ability to coach. Then hire a Jesuit priest, they can work for room and board.
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Post by hchoops on Feb 22, 2021 18:47:52 GMT -5
I would rather go 3-29 every year for the next hundred years than hire Pitino at HC. If you are not going to hire somebody for their ability to coach. Then hire a Jesuit priest, they can work for room and board. Fr.Markey would make a fine coach. Knows the game and can teach.it. Can relate to people
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Post by hchoops on Feb 22, 2021 18:50:39 GMT -5
I would bet the record the past two years, regardless of the roster, would be closer to 40-7 than it is to 7-40 if Pitino was the coach Sometimes our attachment to the past and program behaviors are in conflict. Since there is no way to prove it, I respectfully disagree. when Lowder quit, we had no point guard. Even tricky Ricky could not have overcome that. among many other roster flaws.
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Post by efg72 on Feb 22, 2021 18:54:23 GMT -5
I would bet the record the past two years, regardless of the roster, would be closer to 40-7 than it is to 7-40 if Pitino was the coach Sometimes our attachment to the past and program behaviors are in conflict. Since there is no way to prove it, I respectfully disagree. when Lowder quit, we had no point guard. Even tricky Ricky could not have overcome that. among many other roster flaws. Perhaps but not conceeding that point. My guess is he would have found a way in the ooc to be respectable and then totally out coached the PL once he understood his team from the ooc schedule But I also appreciate your point of view
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Feb 22, 2021 19:10:46 GMT -5
Yet another currently pointless & moot thread just like the Berard discussion in the hockey forum.
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Post by efg72 on Feb 22, 2021 19:27:06 GMT -5
My point is we want something that MIGHT not be attainable unless we make compromises-and not sure that is an acceptable option by many on this board, the administration or BOT. But the older I get I would love to see success without selling my soul-therein lies the conflict
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Post by longsuffering on Feb 22, 2021 22:22:50 GMT -5
I would bet the record the past two years, regardless of the roster, would be closer to 40-7 than it is to 7-40 if Pitino was the coach Sometimes our attachment to the past and program behaviors are in conflict. Since there is no way to prove it, I respectfully disagree. when Lowder quit, we had no point guard. Even tricky Ricky could not have overcome that. among many other roster flaws. But would Lowder have quit a Pitino coached team or a team coached by Brett Nelson with five or six years of experience as head coach? Both the head coach and AD were rookies when Lowder and Pridgen left.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Feb 23, 2021 5:44:59 GMT -5
The school that really missed the boat on Pitino was Fordham. Zero shot he was going to be considered at Holy Cross.
When you're in the A-10, you're in the "entertainment business".
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Post by possum on Feb 23, 2021 6:43:24 GMT -5
No the most logical spot for Pitino's return was UMass, the prodigal son goes full circle returning to his alma mater to put them back on the college basketball map.
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Post by hchoops on Feb 23, 2021 8:00:29 GMT -5
The school that really missed the boat on Pitino was Fordham. Zero shot he was going to be considered at Holy Cross. When you're in the A-10, you're in the "entertainment business". Fordham President, Fr. McShane would not hire Pitino.
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Post by thecrossisback on Feb 23, 2021 8:10:27 GMT -5
The school that really missed the boat on Pitino was Fordham. Zero shot he was going to be considered at Holy Cross. When you're in the A-10, you're in the "entertainment business". Fordham President, Fr. McShane would not hire Pitino. Hoops, Did Pitino beat you in a 1 on 1 game? Why are you so down on him?
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Post by WCHC Sports on Feb 23, 2021 9:06:36 GMT -5
I think a lot of folks on this board are down on Pitino. I can see why with his checkered past of integrity and issues with players. We all want players who will be good men, and good Crusaders, first and foremost. We also want to win. I have always argued that you can run a clean program and not hire d-bags, and not admit students who will fail classes, break the law, beat up their girlfriends, cut corners, etc. Maybe I was too optimistic or naive, or ignorant saying that for 17 years-- that you could win and win the "right" way. We haven't won. I can only hope or guess or assume that we've done that at least the right way (a few years ago with people kicked out of the program, I had doubts there too).
After 17 years, I start to wonder what a deal with the devil might feel like. Maybe I/we need to stop being so high and mighty if we just want basketball wins anyway. I wonder what the folks who have endured this for 40-50 years feel like.
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Post by alum on Feb 23, 2021 9:32:16 GMT -5
Goodness, the guy is a dirtbag. There is no other way to describe him. To review:
1. As an assistant at Hawaii in the 70's he was implicated in a scandal in which players received airline tickets and use of cars. 2. At Louisville, his DOBO hired strippers for recruits--he claimed to not know it was happening. 3. At Louisville, he was involved in the pay to play sneaker company scandal. Again, he claimed that if anything happened, it was an assistant's fault. 4. At Louisville, he had sex (he says it lasted only 15 seconds) in a restaurant with a woman who was not his wife, may have then paid for an abortion, and as a result put himself in a situation where an extortion attempt was possible years later. His apology only focused on the length of time between his indiscretion and when it was uncovered.
He is a liar and a cheater and I am quite confident that he cheated elsewhere and just didn't get caught. Why do you think he is willing to work for mid major money? Nobody wants him.
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Post by rgs318 on Feb 23, 2021 9:36:21 GMT -5
No need to wonder, WCHC. After almost 60 years as a Holy Cross fan, the feeling I get during stretches with poor records is awful. Want to spin that, all the losing makes the wins more special. Small comfort comes from the knowledge that HC does try to do things the "right way" and has not hired anyone who was there for wins alone, no matter how they were obtained.
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