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Post by bfoley82 on Aug 20, 2021 3:00:17 GMT -5
Football is conducive for a fifth year at HC with just one semester having to be skipped. HC should consider giving these athletes and other students who complete their studies after a fall semester access to their degree in December if they want to graduate then so they can take any job that requires a degree or start grad school. Just another small way for HC to stop being your father's Oldsmobile without harming anyone. Some traditions, like only granting degrees once a year actually help people by being ended. If that tradition has already ended I stand corrected. That is pretty crazy Holy Cross doesn't hold a small winter commencement.
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Aug 20, 2021 5:26:22 GMT -5
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Aug 20, 2021 5:26:22 GMT -5
Football is conducive for a fifth year at HC with just one semester having to be skipped. HC should consider giving these athletes and other students who complete their studies after a fall semester access to their degree in December if they want to graduate then so they can take any job that requires a degree or start grad school. Just another small way for HC to stop being your father's Oldsmobile without harming anyone. Some traditions, like only granting degrees once a year actually help people by being ended. If that tradition has already ended I stand corrected. Im petty sure those that graduate in December have no problem receiving proof of degree or getting jobs in January. But they have to wait until May to "walk". Sort of like how in some cases schools will allow certain students missing a credit or two to walk with their class before finishing a summer course to allow for official graduation. As far as taking a semester off to play a 5th year, Im not sure if thats still necessary in the scholarship era.
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Aug 20, 2021 8:00:41 GMT -5
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Post by HC92 on Aug 20, 2021 8:00:41 GMT -5
Thanks to your research, yes. But Foley covered some of those games and I believe he said Cheney used two quarterbacks at times so perhaps he can flesh it out. I think I shot three games and at least two of them saw Chesney use two quarterbacks and a third game saw him use three. None of these QB's got injured as they were just situational moves. This was a loss to Bentley (game meant nothing because AC already won the auto bid) Here is the first pic I have archived from the game of the AC QB (Monks was the name) who was a captain not starting. Note he started the game I did the previous year. First pic is of number 9 in the game who played most of it. www.foley-photography.com/Football/College-Football/2017-Season/Bentley-at-Assumption-College/i-d8j57Mk/ANumber 18 in now www.foley-photography.com/Football/College-Football/2017-Season/Bentley-at-Assumption-College/i-w4spdtT/AWas it because the game didn't mean anything? Was the kid injured? But he clearly had a package ready for number 18 in the red zone. Number 9 ended up starting the season opener the next season which I shot. Monks was injured at the end of 2017. Cody Williams and Monks shared time in 2018 with Williams getting a significantly higher amount of action. The guy who came in for Monks in 2017 had been the starter the year before. I think the lesson is that Chesney is open to playing the best option at QB each week and you don’t just get the job and keep it until you graduate. We’ve certainly seen that in his time at HC as well. The other lesson is that he will play two QBs in a game. I would be surprised if our QB situation this year is not some combo of Sluka and either Siderman or Pesansky.
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Post by bringbackcaro on Aug 20, 2021 8:29:38 GMT -5
Football is conducive for a fifth year at HC with just one semester having to be skipped. HC should consider giving these athletes and other students who complete their studies after a fall semester access to their degree in December if they want to graduate then so they can take any job that requires a degree or start grad school. Just another small way for HC to stop being your father's Oldsmobile without harming anyone. Some traditions, like only granting degrees once a year actually help people by being ended. If that tradition has already ended I stand corrected. Im petty sure those that graduate in December have no problem receiving proof of degree or getting jobs in January. But they have to wait until May to "walk". Sort of like how in some cases schools will allow certain students missing a credit or two to walk with their class before finishing a summer course to allow for official graduation. As far as taking a semester off to play a 5th year, Im not sure if thats still necessary in the scholarship era. The semester off situation has nothing to do with scholarships -- it's school policy that you can't just hang around for 9 semesters to complete a degree that takes 8 semesters. Options are to either take one semester off, or pick up a double major to "justify" the additional time on campus.
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Aug 20, 2021 8:49:28 GMT -5
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Aug 20, 2021 8:49:28 GMT -5
Im petty sure those that graduate in December have no problem receiving proof of degree or getting jobs in January. But they have to wait until May to "walk". Sort of like how in some cases schools will allow certain students missing a credit or two to walk with their class before finishing a summer course to allow for official graduation. As far as taking a semester off to play a 5th year, Im not sure if thats still necessary in the scholarship era. The semester off situation has nothing to do with scholarships -- it's school policy that you can't just hang around for 9 semesters to complete a degree that takes 8 semesters. Options are to either take one semester off, or pick up a double major to "justify" the additional time on campus. But they COULD take the double major option though correct? The basketball guys who've tak3n fifth years in past have done this. Pat Doherty and Andrew Keister were both on campus for 10 semesters and had to add a major or minor as you stated. Prior to scholarships I know no such option existed for football. You HAD to take the spring semster off.
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Aug 20, 2021 9:00:56 GMT -5
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Post by hc2020 on Aug 20, 2021 9:00:56 GMT -5
I believe the PL must approve a request for a 5th year, with some medical or academic “justification” being submitted. The academic angle is typically justified by noting that the player is either a double major or has a minor and additional credits and another semester are needed to complete their matriculation. Of course, the team needs to also be willing to support the player’s request to play a 5th year.
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Aug 20, 2021 12:05:20 GMT -5
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Post by bfoley82 on Aug 20, 2021 12:05:20 GMT -5
Monks was injured at the end of 2017. Cody Williams and Monks shared time in 2018 with Williams getting a significantly higher amount of action. The guy who came in for Monks in 2017 had been the starter the year before. I think the lesson is that Chesney is open to playing the best option at QB each week and you don’t just get the job and keep it until you graduate. We’ve certainly seen that in his time at HC as well. The other lesson is that he will play two QBs in a game. I would be surprised if our QB situation this year is not some combo of Sluka and either Siderman or Pesansky. There you go...he is always open to multiple qbs.
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Post by dharry13 on Aug 20, 2021 13:25:32 GMT -5
I've heard tomorrow is their first pre season scrimmage. No idea where or what time or if anyone is allowed to attend. 2 deep will be written in pencil after that, then one more week to move it to pen, before game week heading into UCONN.
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Post by efg72 on Aug 20, 2021 14:03:37 GMT -5
Be good to get a sense of how our QBs and WRs are working out
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Post by hc6774 on Aug 21, 2021 10:47:30 GMT -5
I've heard tomorrow is their first pre season scrimmage. No idea where or what time or if anyone is allowed to attend. 2 deep will be written in pencil after that, then one more week to move it to pen, before game week heading into UCONN. on Fitton Field?
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Post by dharry13 on Aug 21, 2021 11:15:47 GMT -5
I believe it's on Father K field at 2PM.
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Post by rgs318 on Aug 21, 2021 14:02:27 GMT -5
OK, not that I am anxious, but has it started? What is the good word?
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Post by midwestsader05 on Aug 21, 2021 14:14:19 GMT -5
Amazing investment….also extremely jealous. t.co/B8fxDEeNgS?amp=1If you get hit with the WT&G paywall, it’s posted on the Football team’s twitter page. Try another device.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Aug 21, 2021 14:40:58 GMT -5
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Aug 21, 2021 14:44:18 GMT -5
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Post by longsuffering on Aug 21, 2021 14:44:18 GMT -5
Amazing investment….also extremely jealous. t.co/B8fxDEeNgS?amp=1If you get hit with the WT&G paywall, it’s posted on the Football team’s twitter page. Try another device. Fabulous.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Aug 21, 2021 15:02:14 GMT -5
On the team's twitter page, there is a team gather round BC photo, with five players with red jerseys. I assume four QBs, and one no-contact player?
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Post by hc2020 on Aug 21, 2021 15:34:30 GMT -5
OK, not that I am anxious, but has it started? What is the good word? Scrimmage is now over. Trying to get some intel on how things transpired. On a positive note, my sources tell me that they did hear anything about injuries.
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Post by hc2020 on Aug 21, 2021 17:26:26 GMT -5
Spoke with a couple of guys who watched the scrimmage from afar. Overall, the defense carried the day. Some general comments about players:
Sluka took most of the first team reps at QB. Freshman QB Pesansky may be the best overall passer of the group, and has good size and arm strength. At the moment, however, it looks like Sluka’s ability to run the RPO offense should put him in the driver’s seat as the starter.
First team defense looked solid overall. Whitley and Dobbs stand out, with Smith a solid DB in both pass and run defense. All 3 are the anchors at their positions.
Some of the underclassmen who stood out:
Terrence Spence looks like a solid CB. He will definitely push the upperclassman for playing time. Bolden also looks to be a solid LB with good range and instincts.
Newman should also be in the mix at OT. A good athlete with excellent size for a sophomore.
Shipman and Coker are talented WRs who will continue to be in the mix for playing time.
Rivers seems like he can be a solid S who plays multiple positions. Plays like a LB out there and has good size and range, similar to how Joe Lang played the position.
Ruane seems to be getting a lot of looks at S. Only a freshman, he needs to learn the position but he has good instincts and is athletic.
Fuller is a beast at RB. Can’t miss him out there, even as a freshman. A real downhill runner who is a handle to bring down.
Will update if I get anything more to share.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Aug 21, 2021 18:06:50 GMT -5
Re: the defense carried the day, with Sluka taking most of the first team snaps. That was the question with respect to Sluka last season. Tremendous performance when no team had tape on him. After teams saw how he could be defensed, the performance tailed off. It may be the scrimmage featured vanilla Sluka, but we will see for real in two weeks.
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Aug 21, 2021 18:20:20 GMT -5
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Post by longsuffering on Aug 21, 2021 18:20:20 GMT -5
It will be nice if UConn overlooks us, but given their chances of winning vs FBS teams, we are practically their super bowl. So I am sure they will prepare thoroughly for Sluka. If he can move the ball on them we have much to look forward to.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Aug 21, 2021 18:31:02 GMT -5
Re: the defense carried the day, with Sluka taking most of the first team snaps. That was the question with respect to Sluka last season. Tremendous performance when no team had tape on him. After teams saw how he could be defensed, the performance tailed off. It may be the scrimmage featured vanilla Sluka, but we will see for real in two weeks. Could it be that South Dakota State did a better job of stopping Sluka than Fordham and Bucknell did, not because SoDakSt had video of him but because SoDakSt is simply a much better team, much better defense, than Fordham and Bucknell?
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Post by efg72 on Aug 21, 2021 19:49:57 GMT -5
Thanks for the update
Question Do you go with Sluka and his talent to run, combined with others in the running game, or use the arm of Pelansky type QB to put the ball in the hands of our skilled WR’s to create after the reception?
The philosophy this far appears to play it safe offensively with a QB that can make plays, but not beat you with the mistakes, and then let the D deliver the W
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Aug 21, 2021 20:10:49 GMT -5
I have to think that Matt Sluka has been working on his passing day after day, hopefully under the watchful eye of expert coaches. He may be a better passer as a college sophomore than he was in his first games as a freshman.
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Post by efg72 on Aug 21, 2021 20:15:00 GMT -5
Don't disagree, just asking a question that explores options for us offensively
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Aug 21, 2021 20:15:05 GMT -5
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Post by hc2020 on Aug 21, 2021 20:15:05 GMT -5
It seems to me that Sluka is the most ready to play right now, so I don’t know how you go with anyone else. I think we will rely upon our defense to give our offense good field position. Don’t discount Ng as a weapon who can accumulate points on drives with his leg. Couple that with ball control and some opportunistic turnovers and that will likely be our recipe for success. If we get into a shootout, that doesn’t really play to our strengths.
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