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Post by breezy on Nov 30, 2021 13:41:25 GMT -5
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Post by sader1970 on Nov 30, 2021 13:51:35 GMT -5
Wow! Succinct.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Nov 30, 2021 13:55:20 GMT -5
I'm not a member of Twitter--could someone copy and past Prez Vince's tweet here?
Retweeted by Coker and Coker's mother. Also liked by Burke Magnus, and BC.
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Post by longsuffering on Nov 30, 2021 14:58:44 GMT -5
This is where President Vince steps in and begins to build his legacy by pulling a rabbit (a few grand) out of a hat (another budget or reserve) but only if he and his team are in touch with what is happening throughout the school, and he understands the value that a winning program brings to HC. I hope he's sent out a tweet about Saturday's dramatic come from behind victory. Hey longsuffering check out what "President Vince" had to say about the game he watched from the Prez box on Saturday on the Holy Cross College Twitter account. I don't remember Burroughs saying a thing about any sport during his time in the Prez box. By the way Presidents of colleges don't organize bus trips for football games that's usually done by the AD at the school or in our case the Co-AD's. Thanks, I'm not on Twitter but his statement has been posted here and I think it's great. I'm a supporter of President Rougeau but I did read his sporting interests were things like hiking, so I was hoping he would get caught up in the excitement and become a Crusader fan.
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Post by midwestsader05 on Nov 30, 2021 15:12:25 GMT -5
Vince was at Polar Park and raved about it. He watched the whole game from the Prez box last week. He's going to Philly on Friday for the game...I'd say by early indications a breath of fresh air from an athletics perspective.
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Post by rgs318 on Nov 30, 2021 15:21:54 GMT -5
Here's hoping that is the case.
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Post by longsuffering on Nov 30, 2021 15:31:17 GMT -5
Observing Coach Chesney will give him a quick tutorial in what he wants for Athletic leadership at HC. In time to make a difference in the AD hire I hope.
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Post by sader1970 on Nov 30, 2021 15:50:55 GMT -5
This thread has made me think about the whole AD subject. Not just at Holy Cross, but what ADs anywhere "wow" you now or historically? Dave Gavitt? Ron Perry?
Maybe I'm just not putting enough attention to the subject but it seems to me that ADs are best when they just get out of the way. Thoughts?
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Post by hchoops on Nov 30, 2021 16:49:14 GMT -5
When they hire coaches who wind up winning
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Post by thecrossisback on Nov 30, 2021 17:32:55 GMT -5
Vince was on the field after the game on Saturday talking to the players.
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Post by mm67 on Nov 30, 2021 19:31:29 GMT -5
Apparently, we have a wonderful new president who is closely involved in the entire life of HC. Kudos.
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Post by spenser on Nov 30, 2021 19:50:18 GMT -5
Vince was on the field after the game on Saturday talking to the players. That’s great to hear, for a myriad of reasons, both athletic and otherwise.
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Post by Crucis#1 on Nov 30, 2021 22:56:39 GMT -5
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Post by bfoley82 on Dec 1, 2021 0:00:34 GMT -5
PP - The team will definitely bus back to Worcester after the game. I think that is short sighted. Better to insist that they go back to the hotel and go to bed. Leave for Worcester after an 8:00 am breakfast with no "hangover" from trying to sleep sitting up in the bus necessitating a nap when then get back anyway. NCAA doesn't pay for the hotel for the night so HC can pay it out of their pocket or bus back. It is on the school.
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Villanova
Dec 1, 2021 5:44:28 GMT -5
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Post by hc2020 on Dec 1, 2021 5:44:28 GMT -5
I think that is short sighted. Better to insist that they go back to the hotel and go to bed. Leave for Worcester after an 8:00 am breakfast with no "hangover" from trying to sleep sitting up in the bus necessitating a nap when then get back anyway. NCAA doesn't pay for the hotel for the night so HC can pay it out of their pocket or bus back. It is on the school. HC won’t even pick up the cost to bring the entire team to Villanova, so that won’t happen. The concept of “ team” has different definitions whenever HC is required to extend itself financially.
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Post by efg72 on Dec 1, 2021 7:08:41 GMT -5
If the staff is permitted by the school and the NCAA to ask a few people for support the money will be there
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Dec 1, 2021 7:42:09 GMT -5
For Foley and for HC2020, from the official NCAA travel manual. Football (FCS) Prelim RoundsOfficial Travel Party size 130 Max team size 64 Per diem rate per individual $150/$220 ($150 is regular rate, $220 is the high cost city rate) Drive $6,000/per diem day. (That's how much the NCAA will pay for the buses. ( a two-day trip would be $12,000. The per diem related costs of the bus drivers are not reimbursed by the NCAA.) For the FCS final Round, the travel party size is bumped up to 145 and the Max team size is 70. There is no definition on who are members of the official travel party, except for The Dance, in which the max number of band members, cheerleaders, mascot is set out. For example, the official travel party for the men's Final Four is 100, of whom 15 are competing athletes. I can find no prohibition against including additional, non-competing athletes in the official travel party. The NCAA will reimburse only up to the max number allowed for the official party.. For FCS football, if a school brought 135, the NCAA will reimburse for 130. Philadelphia is not listed as a high cost city, so the lower per diem rate would apply. ncaaorg.s3.amazonaws.com/championships/resources/travel/2021-22D1Champs_TravelPolicies.pdf^^^ updated Nov 29, 2021
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Villanova
Dec 1, 2021 7:49:47 GMT -5
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Post by hc2020 on Dec 1, 2021 7:49:47 GMT -5
^ Thanks. I saw the same. I thought Philly was listed as a high cost city. Anyway, we all know the NCAA supplements the cost of travel and lodging considerably, which only further supports my belief that the entire team should be traveling. I’m sure the members of the team who gave their all since the summer beginning with “voluntary” summer conditioning through the present time share in my disappointment with HC.
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Villanova
Dec 1, 2021 7:51:53 GMT -5
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Dec 1, 2021 7:51:53 GMT -5
2020, I’ll ask again — do you know if the decision to not bring those who aren’t dressing is driven by money or does Chesney not want others for some other reasons?
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Villanova
Dec 1, 2021 7:55:31 GMT -5
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Post by hc2020 on Dec 1, 2021 7:55:31 GMT -5
^ I was told that it was explained to the squad as a financial issue, and that efforts were being made to try and secure an additional bus to take the others to the game but I have heard nothing further about that or whether any attempts were made to secure funds to bring the entire squad for the trip. Since the entire squad traveled to SDSU in the spring, I doubt that there is any other legitimate reason.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Dec 1, 2021 7:58:12 GMT -5
That doesn’t sit right with me.
Seems like the college should be able to come up with $5K to travel those 30 or so guys who have worked their rear ends off since the summer on a bus (not plane) to Philadelphia for a night.
How can we get this corrected?
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Dec 1, 2021 8:04:29 GMT -5
^ Thanks. I saw the same. I thought Philly was listed as a high cost city. Anyway, we all know the NCAA supplements the cost of travel and lodging considerably, which only further supports my belief that the entire team should be traveling. I’m sure the members of the team who gave their all since the summer beginning with “voluntary” summer conditioning through the present time share in my disappointment with HC. The NCAA reimbursement is not a supplemental, it is a reimbursement of the base cost. A school may incur additional costs if it wishes, that are above and beyond what the NCAA will reimburse. For example, the NCAA will reimburse $1,500 per day for a bus, and reimburse for a maximum of four buses. If HC wanted to bring five buses, the fifth bus is paid for entirely by HC, with no NCAA reimbursement. Again, other than your "very reliable source", how do you know the entire team is not traveling? Is HC taking the band and the cheerleaders in their place? Taking only 64 players leaves 66 seats on the bus and beds in the hotel for others.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Dec 1, 2021 8:16:56 GMT -5
That doesn’t sit right with me. Seems like the college should be able to come up with $5K to travel those 30 or so guys who have worked their rear ends off since the summer on a bus (not plane) to Philadelphia for a night. How can we get this corrected? Based on the bus allowance of $6,000 per diem, that pays for four buses. Silver Fox buses seat 56. So four buses are more than sufficient. Before trying to get anything corrected, we need confirmation from HC2020 that this was said by Chesney, or one of the coaches, and not speculation, rumor, bantering among the players. If the NCAA travel handbook explicitly states that the NCAA will reimburse for a travel party of 130, who are the individuals taking the places of the 30 or so players supposedly not going? To my eye, if true, this reflects poorly on Chesney, not the college, given the NCAA reimbursement of 130 individuals.
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Villanova
Dec 1, 2021 8:50:36 GMT -5
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Post by hc2020 on Dec 1, 2021 8:50:36 GMT -5
^ Again, I was advised that the team was told at the beginning of this week by their coach that not everyone would be able to travel to Villanova. There was also some discussion about perhaps securing a bus to take players to Villanova on Friday but that is all I have to share.
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Post by sader1970 on Dec 1, 2021 9:00:37 GMT -5
I just fired off an email to Nick Smith and copied the appropriate people including Bob Chesney, Vince Rougeau & Silver Fox, asking them to confirm or deny the rumor and, if a financial issue, how we can help make this happen.
If I don't get a response from at least one of them, I will be greatly disappointed.
Heck, since I'm not going personally to the game, I'd be happy to send them what it would cost me to go myself.
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