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Post by oldschoolhoops on Dec 7, 2021 14:10:54 GMT -5
Common opponent in Bryant whom HC defeated on the road. UNH lost to Bryant 61-54 at home. We had McCormack that game FWIW.
Northeastern and Dartmouth also common opponents but shared similar results (losing to NU and defeating Dartmouth)
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Post by oldschoolhoops on Dec 7, 2021 14:16:33 GMT -5
UNH guard Adara Groman played a couple seasons at Worcester Academy.
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Post by purplehaze on Dec 8, 2021 11:54:07 GMT -5
UNH is 3-4 with only two D.1 wins, both at home over very weak teams, Dartmouth by 12 and Bryant by 14. If we're ready to play, this should be a comfortable W
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Post by oldschoolhoops on Dec 8, 2021 12:02:50 GMT -5
I think you're probably right, Mr. Haze. But I felt the same way about Brown and am still feeling the sting of how wrong I was on that one. What are folks thoughts about the coachig match-up? Is there an advantage to the UNH coach knowing Magarity's approach or is she limited because the only coach she has been exposed to is Magarity so her depth of answers/schemes/experience may not be as deep as needed.
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Post by longsuffering on Dec 8, 2021 12:04:06 GMT -5
If we win two out of three against URI, Brown and UNH, I'd rather do it this way than the expected way according to the spreads. Why? Because the team will know that if they play to their potential against good teams and are ready to play against poor teams they can go a long way this season.
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Post by longsuffering on Dec 8, 2021 12:10:57 GMT -5
I think you're probably right, Mr. Haze. But I felt the same way about Brown and am still feeling the sting of how wrong I was on that one. What are folks thoughts about the coachig match-up? Is there an advantage to the UNH coach knowing Magarity's approach or is she limited because the only coach she has been exposed to is Magarity so her depth of answers/schemes/experience may not be as deep as needed. Advantage Magarity. In theory we are paying for her decade of head coaching experience, an asset we didn't get with BN or the two hockey head coaches. It should be a hard, tangible asset but college sports has a way of making it abstract because enthusiasm, motivation, drive all play a role that is separate from experience.
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Post by oldschoolhoops on Dec 8, 2021 12:15:03 GMT -5
I think you're probably right, Mr. Haze. But I felt the same way about Brown and am still feeling the sting of how wrong I was on that one. What are folks thoughts about the coachig match-up? Is there an advantage to the UNH coach knowing Magarity's approach or is she limited because the only coach she has been exposed to is Magarity so her depth of answers/schemes/experience may not be as deep as needed. Advantage Magarity. In theory we are paying for her decade of head coaching experience, an asset we didn't get with BN or the two hockey head coaches. It should be a hard, tangible asset but college sports has a way of making it abstract because enthusiasm, motivation, drive all play a role that is separate from experience. Good point, Longsuffering. It is something to watch, especially in the early going, how UNH attempts to defend.
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Post by lowerkimball on Dec 8, 2021 12:50:47 GMT -5
I think you're probably right, Mr. Haze. But I felt the same way about Brown and am still feeling the sting of how wrong I was on that one. What are folks thoughts about the coachig match-up? Is there an advantage to the UNH coach knowing Magarity's approach or is she limited because the only coach she has been exposed to is Magarity so her depth of answers/schemes/experience may not be as deep as needed. Advantage Magarity. In theory we are paying for her decade of head coaching experience, an asset we didn't get with BN or the two hockey head coaches. It should be a hard, tangible asset but college sports has a way of making it abstract because enthusiasm, motivation, drive all play a role that is separate from experience. In all honesty I think the "experience" piece is wildly overrated. Let's not forget the experience we are paying HCMM for consists of a below .500 record over 10 years at UNH. There are very few coaches in the D1 ranks who have not previously been an assistant coach at some level. Some coaches are either ready for the moment or aren't. I'm not saying HCMM won't eventually put it all together because she's "at a better school or has better faculties now etc etc" but 10 years of data is hard to ignore. Regarding this game, I do agree this on paper tilts significantly towards HC; however, it's never good sign when you're saying we should win comfortably followed / preceded by "IF"..
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Post by longsuffering on Dec 8, 2021 13:26:59 GMT -5
Advantage Magarity. In theory we are paying for her decade of head coaching experience, an asset we didn't get with BN or the two hockey head coaches. It should be a hard, tangible asset but college sports has a way of making it abstract because enthusiasm, motivation, drive all play a role that is separate from experience. In all honesty I think the "experience" piece is wildly overrated. Let's not forget the experience we are paying HCMM for consists of a below .500 record over 10 years at UNH. There are very few coaches in the D1 ranks who have not previously been an assistant coach at some level. Some coaches are either ready for the moment or aren't. I'm not saying HCMM won't eventually put it all together because she's "at a better school or has better faculties now etc etc" but 10 years of data is hard to ignore. Regarding this game, I do agree this on paper tilts significantly towards HC; however, it's never good sign when you're saying we should win comfortably followed / preceded by "IF".. You make a good point. FADMB filled two basketball head coaching positions in his two year tenure. He chose one with no head coaching experience and one with a losing record. A head scratcher when he had the Chesney model staring him in the face. Now we roll the dice with a new newbie AD. Never dull.🙂
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Post by oldschoolhoops on Dec 8, 2021 13:39:07 GMT -5
All good points. I would like to know what the priority was for HC when looking at the hire. My guess is that they wanted program stability and were tired of the drama of the previous years. MM has a track record of stability (meaning no big issues, not W-Ls) and is well-liked in the field and had league connections and recruiting roots in New England. If that was the top priority, then the hire is a great one. If they were looking at someone to build a championship machine, they may have done better looking elsewhere. I don't think winning championships was the top priority or even in their top three. Hiring a good person is a win. Does it mean winning games too? We'll see.
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Post by lowerkimball on Dec 8, 2021 14:04:57 GMT -5
All good points. I would like to know what the priority was for HC when looking at the hire. My guess is that they wanted program stability and were tired of the drama of the previous years. MM has a track record of stability (meaning no big issues, not W-Ls) and is well-liked in the field and had league connections and recruiting roots in New England. If that was the top priority, then the hire is a great one. If they were looking at someone to build a championship machine, they may have done better looking elsewhere. I don't think winning championships was the top priority or even in their top three. Hiring a good person is a win. Does it mean winning games too? We'll see. Couldn't agree more. It wouldn't surprise me if the mass exodus of players and negative feedback from players and players families toward year 1 of BN on the men's side influenced the kind of coach FADMB was going to hire. Especially when considering the soap opera that took place the previous two seasons around the WBB program.
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Post by oldschoolhoops on Dec 8, 2021 14:13:11 GMT -5
All good points. I would like to know what the priority was for HC when looking at the hire. My guess is that they wanted program stability and were tired of the drama of the previous years. MM has a track record of stability (meaning no big issues, not W-Ls) and is well-liked in the field and had league connections and recruiting roots in New England. If that was the top priority, then the hire is a great one. If they were looking at someone to build a championship machine, they may have done better looking elsewhere. I don't think winning championships was the top priority or even in their top three. Hiring a good person is a win. Does it mean winning games too? We'll see. Couldn't agree more. It wouldn't surprise me if the mass exodus of players and negative feedback from players and players families toward year 1 of BN on the men's side influenced the kind of coach FADMB was going to hire. Especially when considering the soap opera that took place the previous two seasons around the WBB program. Exactly, LK. Well stated. Everyone who meets or spends time with MM likes her. That's not always the case with head coaches. That skill and affability has even more value given the generational changes and how important it is for student-athletes to personally like their coach.
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Post by longsuffering on Dec 8, 2021 18:10:41 GMT -5
HC is going to Allen underneath. Cross' shooting pains continue with an air ball.
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Post by oldschoolhoops on Dec 8, 2021 18:12:35 GMT -5
2 points in 5 mins. Need to get settled in on offense
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Post by longsuffering on Dec 8, 2021 18:16:12 GMT -5
Sweet ball hawk by Cross, feed to Avery, and one. Same effect as a made three.
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Post by purplehaze on Dec 8, 2021 18:23:58 GMT -5
both teams with 7 turnovers - we are sloppy and UNH is clearly doesn't have much talent 14-8 HC after 1
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Post by HC13 on Dec 8, 2021 18:24:22 GMT -5
HC 14-8 after 1, sorta an ugly game so far
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Post by HC13 on Dec 8, 2021 18:33:04 GMT -5
Remains ugly half way through the 2nd HC 18-13
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Post by oldschoolhoops on Dec 8, 2021 18:33:40 GMT -5
UNH working extremely hard against their former coach. But they are not very good.
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Post by purplehaze on Dec 8, 2021 18:35:34 GMT -5
thank you, coach for taking Cross out of the game - she's really lost out there = if she was a frosh or soph maybe I'd understand but she's not
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Post by oldschoolhoops on Dec 8, 2021 18:35:41 GMT -5
If they go box and one, they need to use the one (Avery) as a baseline screener. If they go triangle and two, they need to use the two on the perimeter of an overload to one side.
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Post by HC13 on Dec 8, 2021 18:44:30 GMT -5
HC 22-19 at the half. A game so far no one deserves to win
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Post by purplehaze on Dec 8, 2021 18:48:27 GMT -5
22-19 HC at the half - a decent D.2 team would be winning this game against either team these ladies are getting schollies worth up to $300,000 - a good deal for them, not so much for the school
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Post by oldschoolhoops on Dec 8, 2021 18:59:00 GMT -5
It's systemic. Can't coach/teach them in high school with accountability and discipline in their execution anymore. So coaches coach and teach less. Kids like AAU.....5 games a weekend, one practice. The skills out there tonight are reflective of that.
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Post by HC13 on Dec 8, 2021 19:16:40 GMT -5
Wonderful exercise in futility UNH 29-28
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