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Post by HC92 on Apr 8, 2022 11:40:51 GMT -5
Hard to know what happened with any individual player entering the portal. In the aggregate, I feel comfortable saying many of these guys have a sense of who might be interested before they enter the portal.
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Post by Tom on Apr 8, 2022 12:05:01 GMT -5
Even the Ivy League has it's haves and have nots
Ignoring Jeremy Lin for a moment, not a lot of people at Harvard have dreams of playing in the NBA. That Harvard degree is probably worth a lot more earning potential than playing in Europe. Not a lot of people are leaving HYP. They also have so much money there's a ton of free college for everybody including athletes. Since the Ivy League doesn't give athletic scholarships, you might find someone at a place like Cornell who would trade an expensive Cornell degree for a free one at a high academic school
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Post by hchoops on Apr 8, 2022 12:06:41 GMT -5
Bryce Aiken left Harvard for Seton Hall
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Post by Tom on Apr 8, 2022 12:37:35 GMT -5
Considering my pick to win the CROSSPORTS march madness bracket was eliminated before I had dinner on the first day, maybe my thoughts on HYP transfers are completely wrong too
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Post by Crucis#1 on Apr 8, 2022 12:48:44 GMT -5
Bryce Aiken was at Harvard for 4 years, and I would surmised received his Harvard degree before he “transferred” to Seton Hall for his fifth year of eligibility. Interesting fact, he began his high school career at the same school as Matt Zignorski. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bryce_Aiken
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Post by hchoops on Apr 8, 2022 15:15:10 GMT -5
Paul Atkinson left Yale after his junior year to play at UND
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Post by hcpride on Apr 8, 2022 18:29:47 GMT -5
/\ Paul Atkinson graduated from Yale and attended UND as a graduate student. Bryce Aiken graduated from Harvard before playing at Seton Hall. FWIW
Off the topic but Notre Dame now has two Harvard graduates on the football roster.
Like Crucis #1 I’m not sure the word ‘transfer’ captures the actions of a kid who graduates and moves on.
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Post by cmo on Apr 10, 2022 21:07:28 GMT -5
What an absolute slap in the face this would be if Langel took him from Nelson. I think it's dishonorable for one PL school to poach players from another. I've lost all respect for Langel. Somewhere along the way karma might come into play. we should poach Langel. Pony up the buy out and make him an offer he can’t refuse.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Apr 10, 2022 21:13:08 GMT -5
Bryce Aiken was at Harvard for 4 years, and I would surmised received his Harvard degree before he “transferred” to Seton Hall for his fifth year of eligibility. Interesting fact, he began his high school career at the same school as Matt Zignorski. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bryce_Aiken100%. And despite they fact that all its members obviously have grad programs, the Ivy League has a rule that only undergrads are eligible to compete on varsity teams. I believe exceptions have been made but they are extremely rare.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Apr 10, 2022 23:46:30 GMT -5
I think it's dishonorable for one PL school to poach players from another. I've lost all respect for Langel. Somewhere along the way karma might come into play. we should poach Langel. Pony up the buy out and make him an offer he can’t refuse. We raided Colgate for Neil Wheelwright in the early 70's
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Post by longsuffering on Apr 10, 2022 23:54:27 GMT -5
we should poach Langel. Pony up the buy out and make him an offer he can’t refuse. We raided Colgate for Neil Wheelwright in the early 70's They owe us a good coach.
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Post by mm67 on Apr 11, 2022 8:51:26 GMT -5
I have not been following this very closely. Sort of a bottom line guy. Has RJ transferred to Colgate?
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Apr 11, 2022 8:54:45 GMT -5
I have not been following this very closely. Sort of a bottom line guy. Has RJ transferred to Colgate? Not yet, but indications are that he is taking an official visit to Colgate so ot seems that there is some interest in both directions
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Post by longsuffering on Apr 11, 2022 8:58:15 GMT -5
I hope ESPN+ shows the coach post game handshake next season.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Apr 11, 2022 9:34:20 GMT -5
According to Twitter RJ has also received interest from Wofford. Another strong program of late, although they didn't make their conference title game last year.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Apr 11, 2022 9:53:26 GMT -5
Wofford has 820 male undergraduates. They play a Power Five school in football every year. UNC last year. VA Tech this year. #4 Clemson in 2019, with Trevor throwing 4 TDs. 'Lowly' Wofford has a bigger sports rep in its neck of the woods than does either Colgate or HC in theirs.
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Post by midwestsader05 on Apr 11, 2022 10:41:59 GMT -5
According to Twitter RJ has also received interest from Wofford. Another strong program of late, although they didn't make their conference title game last year. Excellent School academically as well.
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Post by DiMarz on Apr 11, 2022 18:58:47 GMT -5
I played golf today with a former col;ege hoops coach and a just retired high school hoops coach..Both believed kids today don't look at a 4 year school, they look at one year at a time, and what kind of playing time they will get.... the kids today have no allegiance to a school or program, it's all about them...Both guys mentioned the huge dropoff in the number of kids that just try out for a team..If they are not a star, they don't want to just be on the team...
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Post by hchoops on Apr 11, 2022 19:22:08 GMT -5
That attitude is certainly increasing, but there still are many high school players with a more selfless outlook
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Post by football44 on Apr 12, 2022 4:55:36 GMT -5
we should poach Langel. Pony up the buy out and make him an offer he can’t refuse. We raided Colgate for Neil Wheelwright in the early 70's What an experience I personally had with that raid! 😉😂
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Post by Tom on Apr 12, 2022 7:52:06 GMT -5
I played golf today with a former col;ege hoops coach and a just retired high school hoops coach..Both believed kids today don't look at a 4 year school, they look at one year at a time, and what kind of playing time they will get.... the kids today have no allegiance to a school or program, it's all about them...Both guys mentioned the huge dropoff in the number of kids that just try out for a team..If they are not a star, they don't want to just be on the team... Well that seems short sighted. I guess I'm asking too much for a teenager to choose a school for an education that will benefit them after they leave college. Maybe in the SEC that logic makes sense, but at the PL level basketball is a means more than an end
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Post by joe on Apr 12, 2022 8:15:12 GMT -5
They learn this in AAU, by public high school coaches who do favors for some kids, and by private high school coaches who will recruit positions away right under a player’s feet the first chance they get. At the same time some coaches don’t recognize talent all that well and some coaches concede to the squeaky wheels and flashy players. The players therefore are not totally to blame for thinking that if they don’t advocate for themselves and think of themselves first, they will simply not get to play basketball in game situations. Given the sacrifices some of these players make, they feel like they’ve earned that chance and are good enough to be on the floor. Some of these players are right and some are wrong, but not all players are the infantile, delusional jerks some of us make them out to be, although some of them are. Austin Butler is a good example of what every modern player should strive to be like, but not everyone can be that guy, and not all the Austins of the world get their due playing time, and even good guys and gals may look for a chance somewhere else. The days of players sitting humbly on the bench and bowing down in blind deference to dictatorial coaches is over, for better AND perhaps mostly for worse.
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Post by WorcesterGray on Apr 12, 2022 8:21:32 GMT -5
I remember Matt Zignorski saying at the time of his commitment that he saw college not as a 4-year decision, but rather a 40-year one. Not much of this maturity and long-term thinking in evidence, at least not in the Holy Cross MBB program of late.
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Post by mm67 on Apr 12, 2022 10:00:09 GMT -5
AB graduated and moved on. He is a role model of integrity and excellence. Apparently, cynicism and corruption(?) have infected college basketball at all levels as never before as evidenced by the large number of students on all levels entering the Transfer Portal. Certainly, the adults bear some responsibility but ultimately the students are responsible for their choices.
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Apr 12, 2022 11:15:38 GMT -5
I remember Matt Zignorski saying at the time of his commitment that he saw college not as a 4-year decision, but rather a 40-year one. Not much of this maturity and long-term thinking in evidence, at least not in the Holy Cross MBB program of late. That would make a nice t-shirt. Maybe fans from coast to coast could agree to wear them on opening a night - send our own message. Probably have some trouble getting buy in from some fan bases.
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